Is the F3(t)Limited the new RT?

[loisk]

What will it take for BRP to make the F3 Limited the new RT?

I think -

- Adjustable windscreen, likely electronic, with choice of heights

- Adjustable top box position, ie, in line with 'u-fit', it can easily be mounted an inch or two further back, to give the passenger a bit more room (note the armrests could stay where they are)

- Maybe slightly redesigned side bags/panniers to add a little more storage (ie more streamlined, perhaps to meet up with the bottom of the top box)

What are your thoughts ??

:chat::dg1: :riding:

 

[Bob Denman]

Sorry... nope!
The lack of storage space is the biggest issue with the F3 bikes.

 

[blacklightning]

Sorry... nope!
The lack of storage space is the biggest issue with the F3 bikes.

:agree:That is what i think. I just sold my rt and picked up a f3t. Although there is not near the storage, i think it will work for me as a 98% single rider. Now, one comment that i don't agree with is when people say they "upgraded from their rt to a f3t". If you have a 2014 or newer rt, you are at the top. The f3t is different, but not better.

 

[PMK]

All the F3s still have that sporty riding lawn mower style front end. Certainly not Rally / Touring styled.

I did have a new F3 owner explain to me he got the racing version. Hope I did not break his heart telling him there is no racing version, it only has 115HP.

 

[Bob Denman]

Paul,
The front-end styling is a pretty personal thing...
But it is largely due to the repackaging of those big twin radiators.
There's just not much else that can be done with them... :dontknow:

 

[PMK]

Paul,
The front-end styling is a pretty personal thing...
But it is largely due to the repackaging of those big twin radiators.
There's just not much else that can be done with them... :dontknow:

Aston Martin managed to get style and radiators in a small front profile.

Granted the F3 front apearance is truly a love or hate decision for the person looking at it. Without too much imagination, the F3 is less snowmobile look.

Aerodynamically, since they rotated the radiators and no longer have direct cooling air into the radiators, possibly the shape and grille is requires for proper cooling.

Remember when we saw the spy photos years ago. The then unannounced F3 took a beating.

 

[Bob Denman]

All of the air that flows into the nose of the bike needs to be turned 90 degrees in order to exit through the radiators...
This required some creative ductwork, that ate up the frunk's storage capacity. :shocked:
If the radiators were laid-down, or angled differently... :dontknow::dontknow::dontknow::dontknow:

 

[I-Day]

We are new to the Spyder world. (Two months) when we went to look at Spyders the RT caught my eye right away but the problem was I didn't fit! I am 6'5" tall 280 lbs with size 15 shoes. Like the Goldwing trike it was a tight fit. My wife noticed the F3T and the dealer said we could make it fit with the Ufit system. And we bought a brand new one. Like I said I am new to this but my bold prediction is that the F3T and F3L are the future of Spyders and will outsell all other brands because of the UFIT system!

 

[Pirate looks at --]

So What if......

They come up with a U-Fit for the RT in its next form? I think there are way too many RT owners out there that NEED the extra room, that there will always be a Battleship in the Spyder line! I do think that it it time for an updated RT though:yes:

 

[Bob Denman]

:agree: Hopefully a longer wheelbase will give us more rider/passenger space...
But that should also require a reconfiguration of the rear driveline: perhaps a driveshaft??? :dontknow:
More luggage space can also be added: make the saddlebags deeper and longer, and the top trunk can also be made longer and wider!
This is just my wish-list: what's yours?

 

[Lew L]

POWER

:agree: Hopefully a longer wheelbase will give us more rider/passenger space...
But that should also require a reconfiguration of the rear driveline: perhaps a driveshaft??? :dontknow:
More luggage space can also be added: make the saddlebags deeper and longer, and the top trunk can also be made longer and wider!
This is just my wish-list: what's yours?

About 30 more ft/pounds of torque and the same amount of horsepower. Or maybe a gearing change. Otherwise my 2014 RTS is perfect ( after many farkels).

Kaos

 

[Bob Denman]

As a touring bike: I've never felt the need for more power...
But I'd never refuse it!

 

[pegasus1300]

I have driven shaft drive bikes for 40 years. I find I like the belt. Shaft robs a lot of horse power and adds weight and the Spyder is already pretty heavy. I would like to see a little longer wheelbase for more rider/passenger room,but again we are already pretty long. If it does grow in length,BRP will have to include an idler pulley or vibration will kill sales. A different nose would be nice and a different interior shape to the trunk. Otherwise packing space if ample. An integrated bluetooth for wireless headsets would be nice and an upgrade in factory tires.

 

[Bob Denman]

A longer wheelbase equals a longer belt...
Which seems to increase the chances for harmonic vibrations! :yikes:
Since a chain is not a viable option: that leaves a shaft. :dontknow:

 

[pegasus1300]

A longer wheelbase equals a longer belt...
Which seems to increase the chances for harmonic vibrations! :yikes:
Since a chain is not a viable option: that leaves a shaft. :dontknow:

Which is why I mentioned a BRP included idler pulley.

 

[Bob Denman]

:shocked: I've seen too many reports of theirs failing...

I'd rather use Doc's! :thumbup:

 

[ARtraveler]

What will it take for BRP to make the F3 Limited the new RT?

I think -

- Adjustable windscreen, likely electronic, with choice of heights

- Adjustable top box position, ie, in line with 'u-fit', it can easily be mounted an inch or two further back, to give the passenger a bit more room (note the armrests could stay where they are)

- Maybe slightly redesigned side bags/panniers to add a little more storage (ie more streamlined, perhaps to meet up with the bottom of the top box)

What are your thoughts ??

:chat::dg1: :riding:

I sincerely hope not. We need both a couch and a cruiser version. Like the Goldwings--dated, but meeting the needs of most who like them. It is time for some serious updating in the styling. The ride is pretty good. Still wanting a bigger engine although the 1330 is very sufficient.

If BRP goes to one platform and try to make it the "everything" :ani29: for "everybody," they are making a serious mistake--IMO. It did not work with the GS/RS for the first two years. I made mine into RT's--before there was an RT. I sometimes think they stole my ideas. :thumbup:

 

[loisk]

I am enjoying all these thoughts.
Some excellent points being made.

 

[Deanna777]

I would buy an RT again, because of the storage compartments, and comfort. Deanna

 

[Peteoz]

We are new to the Spyder world. (Two months) when we went to look at Spyders the RT caught my eye right away but the problem was I didn't fit! I am 6'5" tall 280 lbs with size 15 shoes. Like the Goldwing trike it was a tight fit. My wife noticed the F3T and the dealer said we could make it fit with the Ufit system. And we bought a brand new one. Like I said I am new to this but my bold prediction is that the F3T and F3L are the future of Spyders and will outsell all other brands because of the UFIT system!

Most riders aren't our size, I-Day, and fit the RT just fine in its current form.....they don't need U-fit....... I think there will always be a market for the RT and the F3. Honda sees the market for both which is why they introduced the F6B.

I love my F3-L, but if there had been legroom on the RT, the decision would have been difficult.

Pete