Initial test of Monster Fuel ECM upgrade

[Wildrice]

Time & light rain weather limited my testing to 1st & 2nd gear. I would give it a 25% increase in power to the the new 8600 rpm redline. There is a definite increase in power. 25% increase for approx $400 including freight is a really good deal. I've spent $1900 to go from 170 rwhp to 190 rwhp on my 1st hayabusa. Over $10K + on my turbo hayabusa. Brisk would be my definition of upgraded ECM acceleration. Everything else other than new 8600 rpm redline & improved acceleration appear to have remained the same. More info to follow with time & weather permitting.
Darrell

 

[Chupaca]

Hanging on....

opcorn:opcorn:'ing...so so far so good. :thumbup: good to know...

 

[Bob Denman]

:clap: Question: If you had left the stock rev-limiter in place: how much of an increase do you think that you would have felt? :dontknow:

 

[Wildrice]

:clap: Question: If you had left the stock rev-limiter in place: how much of an increase do you think that you would have felt? :dontknow:

It would be the same increase in acceleration--just redline sooner. The redline doesn't need to be changed for the ECM upgrade--it's a free option. It pulled strong right up to 8600. On my hayabusa I had changed it form 10,800 to 11,200 but the power curve dropped off right after 10,800 thus increasing it in that instance didn't help.
I find it interesting that the same 1330 engine is in the snowmobile & jetski with almost twice the power of the Spyder. It probably has something to do with EPA standards in a few states & countries.

 

[Tazzel]

Some One make a video of the install please

 

[Wildrice]

Some One make a video of the install please

Go to www.monsterfuelinjection.com Click on Can Am Spyder; then click on the "How to section" Click on the F3 video. The hard part ( there isn't a hard part) other than knowing how to release the ecm connector plugs via pushing the bottom button to release the two (2) ECM connectors. good luck--it's easier the 2nd time:yes:
Darrell
PS: if the ECM is a green color you are working on the wrong side--green color is the Transmission ECM. The Engine ECM is on the left foot side & the ECM color is "black".

 

[Hypurone]

I'm waiting impatiently for mine to arrive! ray: Do you feel that you def have to use 60% throttle to access the fun? Or is it more towards 50%? Did you find as others have that the nanny is less intrusive for both inline AND corner shenanigans after the flash? Or is it evident for inline interaction only?

 

[Wildrice]

I'm waiting impatiently for mine to arrive! ray: Do you feel that you def have to use 60% throttle to access the fun? Or is it more towards 50%? Did you find as others have that the nanny is less intrusive for both inline AND corner shenanigans after the flash? Or is it evident for inline interaction only?

I've only had it installed for 4 days & I've never even thought of those issues---anytime I use an estimated % it is only an estimate. Just buy it-install it--no one will regret it--that's a fairly close estimate to 100%.:clap:
Darrell:yes:

 

[jaherbst]

It would be the same increase in acceleration--just redline sooner. The redline doesn't need to be changed for the ECM upgrade--it's a free option. It pulled strong right up to 8600. On my hayabusa I had changed it form 10,800 to 11,200 but the power curve dropped off right after 10,800 thus increasing it in that instance didn't help.
I find it interesting that the same 1330 engine is in the snowmobile & jetski with almost twice the power of the Spyder. It probably has something to do with EPA standards in a few states & countries.

Same engine in my Can Am Maverick. Maverick seems to have more get up and go.

Jack

 

[Wildrice]

Same engine in my Can Am Maverick. Maverick seems to have more get up and go.

Jack

Jack----You have 925 ft lbs of Torque in your new truck at 1800 rpm--swap engines on weekends---remember--I'm here to help:clap:
Darrell
PS: Off road vehicles usually don't have same EPA standards.

 

[Dennis in Lodi]

Only about an inch of throttle travel

We only have just over an inch of total throttle travel so 80% vs. 60% is only a little sooner. The intake honk of the stock F3 starts around 5,000 rpm but only when you roll the throttle open 80%. Flashed it's just a 1/4" sooner in throttle travel. If you have seen the video of the test RT You'll notice on two of the three hole shots the nanny doesn't kick in with the 25' burn outs. With 25% more power across the RPM range even if the nanny kicks in you still are putting out more power than stock. Please allow a tank and 1/2 half of gas before you get full results. The flashed ECU needs to collect HO2S readings to load up the correct fuel mapping. This means you have to red line the bike as it needs that data.
The sweet spot for the F3 platform starts at 4,800 rpm then the energy continues to build all the way to red line.
Have fun, be safe and post your results

I'm waiting impatiently for mine to arrive! ray: Do you feel that you def have to use 60% throttle to access the fun? Or is it more towards 50%? Did you find as others have that the nanny is less intrusive for both inline AND corner shenanigans after the flash? Or is it evident for inline interaction only?

 

[Peter Aawen]

Do you have any vids that show us WHAT the Spyder is actually doing with respect to the road & surrounding area?? I'd really like to see something other than just the gauges & the key rattling, cos apart from the gauges moving, so far we have seen NOTHING that shows the Spyder actually doing those burnouts or accelerating fast or even moving... I'm sorry, but that dash only vision is something any kid on a video game can produce & doesn't really show us anything extraordinary. :dontknow: I believe it's there, but I really want to SEE it happening, not just the gauges moving! :gaahlease..... ray:

 

[Wildrice]

Do you have any vids that show us WHAT the Spyder is actually doing with respect to the road & surrounding area?? I'd really like to see something other than just the gauges & the key rattling, cos apart from the gauges moving, so far we have seen NOTHING that shows the Spyder actually doing those burnouts or accelerating fast or even moving... I'm sorry, but that dash only vision is something any kid on a video game can produce & doesn't really show us anything extraordinary. :dontknow: I believe it's there, but I really want to SEE it happening, not just the gauges moving! :gaahlease..... ray:

Peter--this is Not a Rocket--I have your same problem with Perception---Initially I expected similar acceleration increases as I had with my Hayabusa after spending $10K+ ++on the turbo with engine rod-piston replacement-head porting-secondary fuel injection- camshaft-tranny upgrade to handle the power--that was going from 180 rwhp to 344 rwhp on a 530 lb bike with 210# of torque. The www.monsterfuelinjection.com is an excellent increase in power for approx $400 with the ECM upgrade. Don't expect to race a sportbike & win, but you will notice a significant increase in acceleration. It's the best deal in town for the money considering the other $400 spent on flashing lights not to mention ELKA suspension upgrade costs. Try it--you'll like it--give it at least one full tank of gas for the ECM to adjust.
Darrell
PS: I'll msg you a 5 meg 5 sec video of the busa
http://s256.photobucket.com/user/dvfeit/media/Acceleration Video_zps6zjxk1nm.mp4.html

 

[Dennis in Lodi]

Elka Suspension

Can you tell me more about the Elka Suspension? My stock suspension on my 2016 F3L is very comfortable but it dribbles around like a basketball on the front end with one tire bumps. I don't want to trade the comfort for a harder sport suspension just to stop the dribble? Can I keep it soft and still get some rebound?
Thanks

ELKA suspension upgrade costs.
PS: I'll msg you a 5 meg 5 sec video of the busa
http://s256.photobucket.com/user/dvfeit/media/Acceleration Video_zps6zjxk1nm.mp4.html

 

[Peter Aawen]

Thanks Wildrice, even tho it's short, that little vid gives some frame of reference that allows the viewer to SEE what you are talking about. Now all I want is to see is something similar for the upgrades provided by the ECU/ECM flash. :thumbup:

 

[Highwayman2013]

Can you tell me more about the Elka Suspension? My stock suspension on my 2016 F3L is very comfortable but it dribbles around like a basketball on the front end with one tire bumps. I don't want to trade the comfort for a harder sport suspension just to stop the dribble? Can I keep it soft and still get some rebound?
Thanks

https://us.elkasuspension.com/spyder-shock-absorbers/

 

[Hypurone]

I've only had it installed for 4 days & I've never even thought of those issues---anytime I use an estimated % it is only an estimate. Just buy it-install it--no one will regret it--that's a fairly close estimate to 100%.:clap:
Darrell:yes:

What model F3 do you have? Was yours an immediate thing? My first 250 mile ride with the new flash was underwhelming! :banghead:

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

UNDERWHELMING

What model F3 do you have? Was yours an immediate thing? My first 250 mile ride with the new flash was underwhelming! :banghead:

Question .... I've read that after the " flash " the engine needs to run at Idle for a certain period of time , so the system can make adjustments , to re-set itself ...... If you've done this , I'd contact them ..... Mike :thumbup:

 

[Hypurone]

Question .... I've read that after the " flash " the engine needs to run at Idle for a certain period of time , so the system can make adjustments , to re-set itself ...... If you've done this , I'd contact them ..... Mike :thumbup:

Hmmm, yeah, did that while I was putting the Tupperware back on. Brought it up to full temp then shut it off. Plus there was a fair amount of idling and several key on/key off's on the ride... Bummer! With the amount of shipping time (even with 2-3 day it took longer than it was supposed to) and cost of shipping, I'm not gonna send it back.... Sometimes things don't work out or are not what you expected. Such is life... :doorag:

 

[CasN]

settings

Time & light rain weather limited my testing to 1st & 2nd gear. I would give it a 25% increase in power to the the new 8600 rpm redline. There is a definite increase in power. 25% increase for approx $400 including freight is a really good deal. I've spent $1900 to go from 170 rwhp to 190 rwhp on my 1st hayabusa. Over $10K + on my turbo hayabusa. Brisk would be my definition of upgraded ECM acceleration. Everything else other than new 8600 rpm redline & improved acceleration appear to have remained the same. More info to follow with time & weather permitting.
Darrell

Wildrice, what were your entries on the form? Not too sure about them but do think it wothwhile to have my ECM tuned.