I need a little help starting my Spyder this morning please

[JayBros]

I had a very strange situation with my Spyder when it was about two years old. During the winter it one day cranked very slowly barely enough to start, took a couple of tries to get to start then ran fine for remainder of day, starting and stopping several times running errands. After it happened a second day I pulled battery out, took it to dealer, had tested and found in fine shape. Reinstalled in bike and had same problem following day. Took bike to dealer, told them I didn't need it for remainder of week. They left it in unheated warehouse for remainder of week, hauled it out on a Saturday and it started right up without them doing anything, absolutely no hesitation. Picked up bike and it has started flawlessly ever since. ???

 

[Dmetcalf]

We just got home from church. To give y’all some more details I didn’t set the parking brake when I rode it about 5 days ago so I could move it forward or backward to access the rear tire air stem. After I checked my rear tire pressure I just left it. I went to start it today and when I turned the key on I first noticed the gear indicator saying it was in 1st gear. I pushed the start button ... nothing. I then set the parking brake then attempted again, it still shows it’s in 1st gear.
Ill go out and disconnect the battery for a while (greater than 5 minutes) and try that. My battery is still in great shape. I’ll see if by some chance my terminal connections came loose when I disconnect one of the terminals.
Mill report back after I do that.
Tgank you for all of the helpful advice ..! Great forum .!!

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

HYDRAULIC

The engine starts first. That spins the oil pump in the HCM. That creates oil pressure. When the engine reaches idle speed for the first time after start. The shift computer tells the HCM to shift into neutral.

Thanks for responding so quickly ...... If I'm understanding you on this ...... the pump and pressure etc. occurs AFTER the engine starts and provides the pressure to switch into Neutral ...... Well in my orig post I said my engine won't start because it's not in Neutral,..... for your solution to work the engine must be running.......this is sounding like a Catch 22 situation :banghead: ........ My thinking on this is ..... The bike will never start without some electricity, at some level of power .... the pump doesn't work without the engine providing the power to run the pump ...... So WHY would juice from a JUMP ( on a battery that's putting out max juice ) make my Transmission go into Neutral ???? ........ I'm not trying to obstinate or obtuse about this .....but I'm not seeing the logic in your solution ..... hence my Catch 22 - phrase ...... thanks again for your input .......... Mike :thumbup:

 

[Dmetcalf]

Happy to report that resetting the email by disconnecting the term worked

I disconnected the (-) terminal and waited 8 minutes (gave it a few extra minutes) and reconnected and boom ..! Fired right up ..!!
Tganks again for your help

 

[billybovine]

Thanks for responding so quickly ...... If I'm understanding you on this ...... the pump and pressure etc. occurs AFTER the engine starts and provides the pressure to switch into Neutral ...... Well in my orig post I said my engine won't start because it's not in Neutral,..... for your solution to work the engine must be running.......this is sounding like a Catch 22 situation :banghead: ........ My thinking on this is ..... The bike will never start without some electricity, at some level of power .... the pump doesn't work without the engine providing the power to run the pump ...... So WHY would juice from a JUMP ( on a battery that's putting out max juice ) make my Transmission go into Neutral ???? ........ I'm not trying to obstinate or obtuse about this .....but I'm not seeing the logic in your solution ..... hence my Catch 22 - phrase ...... thanks again for your input .......... Mike :thumbup:

Your Spyder will start in any gear. It does not have to be in neutral. If your Spyder does not start and it is in gear. It is not because it is in gear. Because it does not have to be in neutral to start. For safety reasons if your Spyder is in gear. BRP has added the extra step of making you apply the brake. After the engine has started. A SE model will shift to neutral on it's own.

So you have dead battery and it will not start. Then you attach jumper cables and it starts. Not really a mystery there.

 

[ottawa-rider]

When someone says "apply the brake", they mean put your foot on the brake pedal and hold it while you hit the starter.

They do not mean "apply the parking brake".

Hope this clarifies some of the confusion.

 

[Dudley]

I have had 3 Spyders with the SE transmission. How do you leave your parking brake off when you park it? Mine have always had a loud beeper that beeped until the brake was in park. Did you disengage the safety feature? If you did, someone can just roll your Spyder into a convenient trailer and POOF you have lost your Spyder. Or am I missing something here?

 

[billybovine]

I have had 3 Spyders with the SE transmission. How do you leave your parking brake off when you park it? Mine have always had a loud beeper that beeped until the brake was in park. Did you disengage the safety feature? If you did, someone can just roll your Spyder into a convenient trailer and POOF you have lost your Spyder. Or am I missing something here?

The beeping will stop after about 20 seconds.

 

[Dmetcalf]

I have had 3 Spyders with the SE transmission. How do you leave your parking brake off when you park it? Mine have always had a loud beeper that beeped until the brake was in park. Did you disengage the safety feature? If you did, someone can just roll your Spyder into a convenient trailer and POOF you have lost your Spyder. Or am I missing something here?

i turned it off without applying the parking brake so I could manually move it to get to the rear tire tire stem to check my tire pressure. It will beep for a bit then stop.

 

[irvin48]

The beeping will stop after about 20 seconds.

and then you can roll it any where you want or jack it up and clean the rear
wheel, etc.i always park mine in the shop and put up w/the 20 secs of beep.
no one lives next door. please dont do ths on an incline though---disclaimer.