I HATE Vapor recovery (ECO) gasoline pump nozzles! Is this just "my issue" only? Anyone else? What do you do to avoid this?

[Mikey]

They will, especially if it goes any further!

I am learning how far my chain goes!! It's been a long lesson!!

 

[JayBros]

I apologize for not being more explicit about my local Costco's gas pump nozzles. I learned immediately to pull the boot back to use the nozzle, but the firehose velocity of the fuel coming out of the nozzle and the total lack of finite control of the nozzle is what made me dump Costco for refueling my bike.

 

[BajaRon]

I was going to go there Ron, and I totally agree with your words, but thought site police would shut me down!!!

I spent 53 years in Southern California. Just sighting facts that everyone already knows.

 

[RayBJ]

https://www.amazon.com/McCuff-SPORT-MCCUFF-MOTORCYCLE-FILL/dp/B002KR49QM/ref=sr_1_1?sr=8-1

This solves your problem.

 

[StalkyTracker]

Here are a couple of devices designed to assist with the issue.



Available at Aerostich.com.



Available at Aerostich.com and "Kai Ju" over on Adv Rider.

 

[PDXRTL]

So, you get no spillage with this set up? Will it have any gas on the unit when you're done that you have to deal with? Most gas stations here don't have rags handy that you can wipe things off before you stow them away, so where do you put it when you're done?

I have never had any spillage with the McCuff (maybe once when the pump failed to stop!). Yes, there can be some gas on it when I'm done, but usually very little. When purchased new, a McCuff comes with a case. Mine wore out a while ago so now it just goes in a Ziploc bag which goes in the trunk. I think the fact that I'm using a plastic bag which hasn't disintegrated supports the notion that very little gas is on it when I put it away.

 

[JohnRuckus]

Can't fill up at Costco anymore :/

 

[Snoking1127]

My typical ride uses 4-5 gallons of gas. I stick the nozzle in around 1/2" in the small opening in the tank neck and let it more or less rest there. Holding the boot back and filling to the first spit back and I am done. Only takes a short time to put that much gas in it. So I do not understand how this is a big issue. Of course, there was a time I would stand on top of a 8500 gallon tanker and fill it up, which took like 20 minutes or so, if I remember correctly 50 years later.

 

[iSilentP]

I just ordered the McCuff from Amazon. Both sizes to see which is better for my needs.

Hoping it's a good fix. Thanks everyone for chiming in. I'll report back which one (Sport or Twin) worked best for me.

 

[Yabbadabbadoo]

My Costco in CT has those pumps and I don't have any problem with them.

 

[2dogs]

Just hold it back with one hand and fuel with the other.

To get a full tank without spilling any gas, you have to be more skilled than the average gas pump nozzle.

 

[iSilentP]

I apologize for not being more explicit about my local Costco's gas pump nozzles. I learned immediately to pull the boot back to use the nozzle, but the firehose velocity of the fuel coming out of the nozzle and the total lack of finite control of the nozzle is what made me dump Costco for refueling my bike.

OK. I get it, now.

 

[iSilentP]

I just ordered the McCuff from Amazon. Both sizes to see which is better for my needs.

Hoping it's a good fix. Thanks everyone for chiming in. I'll report back which one (Sport or Twin) worked best for me.

The shipment will arrive today. Just in time for my over-night trip to Hocking Hills in southern Ohio tomorrow.

 

[2dogs]

Today, on my way home from town with this post still fresh in my memory, I stopped to fuel up at a small gas station where I normally frequent. After the automatic shut off, I stuffed (dribbled) in 2 extra gallons paying close attention to what I was doing, and I never touched the rubber gas nozzle boot. When I finished and removed the nozzle from the neck of the tank, I visually checked the level of gas showing in the neck. It was above the 1" hole and just below the edge of the neck, and I never spilled a drop of gas. So how'd I do it? Patience, skill, and know-how, and it didn't cost a dime. For safety reasons, I would NOT recommend stuffing in 2 gallons. I normally only stuff in 1 & 1/2 gallons.

 

[vito1943]

I use Costco almost exclusively for my three cars, but not for my Spyder. I found a local gas station where one specific pump allows me to add gas at a low velocity. After it clicks off, normally with at least a gallon of capacity not filled, I can add gas gently until it fills all the way up to the opening. It took me several tries at different gas stations to find the one with the good pump but now that is where I go, even if I have to wait for another vehicle to leave that pump while all the other pumps at that station are vacant. If I have to fill up away from my home area, I just live with the inability to fill the tank. FWIW, I had the same problem when I had a Goldwing.

 

[racoon]

I remembered this message thread while filling up my vehicle today (not my Spyder).

None of the pumps had a vapor recovery collar, which is why I hadn't noticed it as a problem the last time I did fill up my Spyder.

 

[Gwolf]

Many States Ease Regulations to Allow Conventional Fuel Nozzles at New or Modified Gas Stations - Husky

PACIFIC, MO (May 22, 2013) – Regulators in several states now allow new or modified Gasoline Dispensing Facilities (GDF) exemptions from Stage II vapor recovery requirements and permit the installation of conventional systems and hanging hardware. Stage II systems are frequently cumbersome for...

www.husky.com

Some states already revoked the use of and others never approved it at all. Looks like the vapor recovery system nozzles might be on the way out.

 

[racoon]

Some states already revoked the use of and others never approved it at all. Looks like the vapor recovery system nozzles might be on the way out.

I just checked with Google, and it says for Tennessee where I live that gasoline trucks are required to use "Stage I" vapor recovery hardware when filling the underground tanks at the gas stations, but "Stage II" recovery hardware is no longer required at the fuel pumps of new stations, but is required for existing stations that pump more than 10,000 gallons a month, which probably means just in the largest cities.

 

[Snoking1127]

Today, on my way home from town with this post still fresh in my memory, I stopped to fuel up at a small gas station where I normally frequent. After the automatic shut off, I stuffed (dribbled) in 2 extra gallons paying close attention to what I was doing, and I never touched the rubber gas nozzle boot. When I finished and removed the nozzle from the neck of the tank, I visually checked the level of gas showing in the neck. It was above the 1" hole and just below the edge of the neck, and I never spilled a drop of gas. So how'd I do it? Patience, skill, and know-how, and it didn't cost a dime. For safety reasons, I would NOT recommend stuffing in 2 gallons. I normally only stuff in 1 & 1/2 gallons.

You can flood the EVAP canister with gas by putting that much gas in a Spyder.

 

[iSilentP]

Many States Ease Regulations to Allow Conventional Fuel Nozzles at New or Modified Gas Stations - Husky

PACIFIC, MO (May 22, 2013) – Regulators in several states now allow new or modified Gasoline Dispensing Facilities (GDF) exemptions from Stage II vapor recovery requirements and permit the installation of conventional systems and hanging hardware. Stage II systems are frequently cumbersome for...

www.husky.com

Some states already revoked the use of and others never approved it at all. Looks like the vapor recovery system nozzles might be on the way out.

I hope so. Thanks for the read link.