I HATE Vapor recovery (ECO) gasoline pump nozzles! Is this just "my issue" only? Anyone else? What do you do to avoid this?

[iSilentP]

I like to buy gas at my local Costco. They recently switched from the traditional nozzle to the newer, and more eco-friendly, nozzles. It’s been challenging most of the time to get these to work on my Spyder. Sometimes they pump less than just a few ounces before cutting off. I find myself in a continuous cycle of re-engaging the lever over and over till I finally give up and use a work-around (holding the end rubber gasket away from the fill plug with two fingers while I try eliminate the endless on-again/off-again at every second or two cycle). This is the not the optimal fuel-up experience, but I do like the Costco brand of gasoline and also their very competitive pricing, so I keep going back for these reasons.

Is this a “my-issue” only or have others experienced this frustration?

I am thinking of getting a piece of plastic PVC pipe at the right width to place between the nozzle and the fill hole, but wanted to ask here what, if anything, others are doing (other than finding a gas station with the older nozzles).

For clarity, images of the two nozzle types:

Traditional


Newer(ECO-friendly)

 

[RCDanny]

I believe Aerostitch had a clip to hold it back

 

[spyderladyf3t]

I like to buy gas at my local Costco. They recently switched from the traditional nozzle to the newer, and more eco-friendly, nozzles. It’s been challenging most of the time to get these to work on my Spyder. Sometimes they pump less than just a few ounces before cutting off. I find myself in a continuous cycle of re-engaging the lever over and over till I finally give up and use a work-around (holding the end rubber gasket away from the fill plug with two fingers while I try eliminate the endless on-again/off-again at every second or two cycle). This is the not the optimal fuel-up experience, but I do like the Costco brand of gasoline and also their very competitive pricing, so I keep going back for these reasons.

Is this a “my-issue” only or have others experienced this frustration?

I am thinking of getting a piece of plastic PVC pipe at the right width to place between the nozzle and the fill hole, but wanted to ask here what, if anything, others are doing (other than finding a gas station with the older nozzles).

For clarity, images of the two nozzle types:

Traditional
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Newer(ECO-friendly)
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There's a pump here in town at the gas station where I like to get my gas and it irritates me to no end! It's the same way, it looks like the top one, but it's still keeps stopping! It's a never ending hassle trying to get gas to fill my Spyder up...

 

[iSilentP]

I believe Aerostitch had a clip to hold it back

Just googled and found it. Thanks. Still looking for additional alternatives, although this seems like it may do the trick.

 

[JayBros]

Your Costco is years behind the Tar Heel state. Our local Costco has had them since Moses was a PFC. They're fine for cages but I go three miles in the opposite direction to a 7-Eleven store that peddles Exxon 93 at an atrocious price but has pump nozzles that allow super smooth low flow fuel delivery that means I can REALLY FILL the tank. The gas cost is worth the added trip fuel range.

 

[Snoking1127]

Just googled and found it. Thanks. Still looking for additional alternatives, although this seems like it may do the trick.

Just hold it back with one hand hand fuel with the other.

 

[iSilentP]

Just hold it back with one hand hand fuel with the other.

Yes, but always trying to make things easier (but at times also more complicated). HAHA. Thanks for the advice.

 

[Gwolf]

It is really Eco friendly when they design nozzles that save half a drop of vapor from escaping but end up over filling and run half a pint of gasoline out on the concrete?

Don't think I have seen any of those, but they used to have some that the lever would not latch on and you had to stand there and hold it about half open or it would spray gas back out.

 

[iSilentP]

It is really Eco friendly when they design nozzles that save half a drop of vapor from escaping but end up over filling and run half a pint of gasoline out on the concrete?

Don't think I have seen any of those, but they used to have some that the lever would not latch on and you had to stand there and hold it about half open or it would spray gas back out.

Thanks for the reply. I agree.

BTW: I love your "Legalize Freedom" tagline. Is this a "thing" (an on-line community with similarly-minded people)? Just curious...

 

[Gwolf]

Thanks for the reply. I agree.

BTW: I love your "Legalize Freedom" tagline. Is this a "thing" (an on-line community with similarly-minded people)? Just curious...

I am not a member of any Internet Social Group, unless you consider motorcycle forums social groups.

Legalize Freedom is just my personal opinion. It is a reminder of all the State and Local Laws that are unconstitutional or outdated, and of the problems it causes when some State you are traveling through does not recognize the laws of your home State. I don't believe all laws are bad nor that total freedom would work out, but the laws of the various States should be fairly standard. You can take off and pass through 10 or 15 different States in a couple of days. Each of those States have different laws, pertaining to motorcycles, safety equipment, mirrors, and other differences. It is not only pertaining to motorcycles, but many other things that can be legal in one State and not legal in another. The different States even define 3 wheel motorcycles in different ways and require a different license to ride them. It is all kind of ridiculous, but you only vote on the legislature of your own home state and the other States can do as the please. This is just the general idea of it and I won't clarify anything that would become political. I am not in favor of Federal control, but the traffic and vehicle laws and some other laws need some kind of standardization or at least the state you pass through should recognize the laws of your home State.

 

[SLemmons]

I like the Costco gas as well but not the pump set up. To fill the Spyder tank, I barely put the nozzle in and hold the other part up so that it will pump. That way I can also see the gas level as it fills up. The design of the addition on the pump is fine for vehicles with a long fill tube but stops motorcycles with direct tank access from filling the tank.

 

[Mrmikey]

We don't have them here in NS, least not the stations I go to. Looks like a complete pia to me.
Seems like it was designed by the same idiots that designed/mandated the ventless gas cans. You know, the ones that spill more fuel than the vented ones they replaced.

 

[canamjhb]

I wasn't familiar with these nozzles when the local Costco changed to them. I couldn't get it to work for me. The attendant saw me struggling and told me how they worked. It's not just Spyders, they don't work for other motorcycles as well. I buy my car gas almost exclusively at Costco. It's less than 2 miles from home. But I never see any motorcycles there in spite of the many bikes on the road here in Arizona.

 

[BajaRon]

Just hold it back with one hand hand fuel with the other.

Exactly, that's what I do. These have been a pain for motorcycle riders since their inception (long ago in California). The West Coast seems to come up with bad ideas first.

 

[2dogs]

I'm Stage II, so I don't give a hoot about the $$$ of gas because I use premium; and if I can't find it, I carry a small bottle of Boostane with me so that I can make it premium if I have to. I avoid Costco and all the newer stations with the high velocity pumps. I fill up at the little ol' mom and pop stations that have the older style pumps. That rubber boot is easier to control. After the auto shut l, I dribble in one extra gallon, and I'm good. I can stuff in an extra half gallon more if I want, but by that time my patience has worn too thin.

Exactly, that's what I do. These have been a pain for motorcycle riders since their inception (long ago in California). The West Coast seems to come up with bad ideas first.

RIGHT-ON-RON! Careful now, don't get me started. LOL