I hate Squealing Brakes - any suggestions to stop them squealing?

[troop]

Ahhh... next time. Would you remove the shims when using disc quiet/grease ?

 

[scubadown]

I know, another squealing brake thread. So, I have a 2013 ST-L with the Brembo brakes and 12,000 miles. I changed the OEM pads to EDC a couple of weeks ago, not so much as they were too worn, but I had read of better stopping power. Since I have switched, I can't stop the squealing. Took it back apart and cleaned everything real well, use caliper guide grease and put it back together, Still squeals.

I can think of three possible attempts to fix this:

1) Replace the EDC and go back to OEM pads.

2) Disassemble again and put the brake grease both on the back of the brake pad and on the back of the anti-squeal shim (only did back of the brake pad last time). I don't think this will fix it but who knows?

3) Get rid of the anti-squeal shims and use CRC Disk Brake Quiet on back of the brake pads. It says on the directions not to use with shims.

Any suggestions? I hate squealing brakes. It only does it when slowly stopping like parking lots, driveways and stop lights.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

I know, another squealing brake thread. So, I have a 2013 ST-L with the Brembo brakes and 12,000 miles. I changed the OEM pads to EDC a couple of weeks ago, not so much as they were too worn, but I had read of better stopping power. Since I have switched, I can't stop the squealing. Took it back apart and cleaned everything real well, use caliper guide grease and put it back together, Still squeals.

I can think of three possible attempts to fix this:

1) Replace the EDC and go back to OEM pads.

2) Disassemble again and put the brake grease both on the back of the brake pad and on the back of the anti-squeal shim (only did back of the brake pad last time). I don't think this will fix it but who knows?

3) Get rid of the anti-squeal shims and use CRC Disk Brake Quiet on back of the brake pads. It says on the directions not to use with shims.

Any suggestions? I hate squealing brakes. It only does it when slowly stopping like parking lots, driveways and stop lights.

"brake GREASE" ..... that's NOT used on the back of the Pads .... I use CRC brand "Brake Quiet" with the EBC pads and don't have any Squeal .... good luck ... Mike :thumbup:

 

[scubadown]

 

[BajaRon]

Ahhh... next time. Would you remove the shims when using disc quiet/grease ?

Brake Quiet and brake grease are 2 different products. Brake Quiet Gel is applied to the back of the brake pads to eliminate squeal. Brake grease is applied to the moving parts of the caliper assembly to guarantee they move smoothly. Otherwise, the caliper can get jammed up and then you get uneven stopping and uneven pad wear. We use a very thin coat of anti-seize for this. But there are many options out there.

Brake Quiet kinds of products are designed to do the same thing as the shim. Usually, the shim is enough. But the Quiet Gel works better than a shim. If the shim isn't enough, then remove it if you are using the Brake Quiet Gel. But don't throw them away. It doesn't hurt to keep them around.

 

[IGETAROUND]

Starting to get some squealing on a couple of my brakes now. Thinking if I'm going to pop off the pads to clean/lube everything up, I might consider replacing the pads to some EBC HH. I've had good luck with these on past bikes. With only about 7.5k on the pads, they still have lots of life, but wondering how the EBC's work on the F3 ? Lack of braking hasn't been a concern. Thx for any knowledgeable F3 EBC input. ** And maybe the Bajaron piston tool **

Troop, the EBC pads work awesome on the F-3, And Ron's caliper reduction tool for the rear caliper makes changing pads ever so much easier.

Al in Kazoo

 

[scubadown]

Brake Quiet and brake grease are 2 different products. Brake Quiet Gel is applied to the back of the brake pads to eliminate squeal. Brake grease is applied to the moving parts of the caliper assembly to guarantee they move smoothly. Otherwise, the caliper can get jammed up and then you get uneven stopping and uneven pad wear. We use a very thin coat of anti-seize for this. But there are many options out there.

Brake Quiet kinds of products are designed to do the same thing as the shim. Usually, the shim is enough. But the Quiet Gel works better than a shim. If the shim isn't enough, then remove it if you are using the Brake Quiet Gel. But don't throw them away. It doesn't hurt to keep them around.

Thanks Ron, that's what I am going to try.

 

[ransman]

This is what I used and it worked for me. Permatex ceramic brake lubricant.

 

[Peter Aawen]

This is what I used and it worked for me. Permatex ceramic brake lubricant.

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Yeah, that stuff's not strictly an 'anti-squeal' product, altho by reducing the friction between the pads, shims, & the pistons, it might have some squeal reduction capability?!? :dontknow:

 

[BajaRon]

This is what I used and it worked for me. Permatex ceramic brake lubricant.

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Interesting. No one knows it all and we are always learning. It's easy to get stagnant having found a product that has worked for you in the past. I was not aware of a 'Grease' that was also used as a quieting product.

Having done some research this morning. It appears it may be a better option than the CRC Disk Quiet gel. As a side note, I don't like the spray version of CRC Disk Quiet. So, I am not surprised to find a customer not thrilled with it. The spray version tends to go on too thin, and thickness of the final application is very important. I was not able to find a comparison between the gel version and this Permatex product. But I'm still interested enough to give it a try.

Thank you for the information. If there is anyone else out there who has used this product on the Spyder, let me know what you think.

I never want to get to the point where I don't think I can do any better.

 

[Peacekeeper6]

Interesting. No one knows it all and we are always learning. It's easy to get stagnant having found a product that has worked for you in the past. I was not aware of a 'Grease' that was also used as a quieting product.

Having done some research this morning. It appears it may be a better option than the CRC Disk Quiet gel. As a side note, I don't like the spray version of CRC Disk Quiet. So, I am not surprised to find a customer not thrilled with it. The spray version tends to go on too thin, and thickness of the final application is very important. I was not able to find a comparison between the gel version and this Permatex product. But I'm still interested enough to give it a try.

Thank you for the information. If there is anyone else out there who has used this product on the Spyder, let me know what you think.

I never want to get to the point where I don't think I can do any better.

I've never heard of this Permatex product either, so I decided to give it a try on my g/f's son's Mazda CX-5 when we replaced the front pads and rotors.

I greased the caliper slide pins and applied a layer on the back of the pads. So far, no squealing, so ....

 

[FrogmanDave]

Brake grease works just fine as an anti squeal. Any thick grease will. I personally use the CRC Brake and Caliper grease. Been using it for years.

 

[Gwolf]

If it is not a brake pad or stuck cylinder problem, sometimes a little scribbling on the disk with a soft lumber pencil will stop it, until the next time you get caught in a flood.