Highwayman2013
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It may just be the new RSS but it was a news release fromBRP. Software change that is.
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There were many reasons for the change of the site software, the biggest was security. The age of the old software also meant no server updates for certain programs. There are many benefits to the new software, one of the biggest is the mobile functionality. Ill fix up some stuff in the coming days, we'll also try to get some of the old addons back or the data imported back into the site like the garage. To create a thread or to reply with a post is basically the same as it was in the prior software. The default style of the site is light colored, but i temporarily added a darker colored style, to change you can find a link at the bottom of the site.
I can't help myself
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Life is full of what-ifs. What if the plane I'm on right now doesn't make it? What if I was in an accident in my Jeep on the way to the airport? You take your risks. That's why I'm on a RS-S and not a full sport bike. You go find what makes you happy.As for the topic... I want to see the RS line become more of a true sport bike. I don't think the new 1330 is the right engine for that. It's a cruiser engine, not a sport engine. I just got my RS-S in December but if BRP does go the direction I want I'll happily trade it in.I bought my RS-S for fun. It's at 550 miles and has never been on an interstate and probably won't until I go to Spyder Rally in May (assuming I make it). It was bought to have a lot of fun on winding country roads and so far it's delivered on that.
It's only on the 2014 RS-S. I wish they'd give it to the 2013s too. Should be no reason they couldn't.
figmotoday
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an interesting perspective that riding hard = riding dangerous & throwing all caution to the wind & little concern for others
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riding hard = following MSF safety rules with a calm, alert, & focused mindset on the road during quick acceleration & shifting weight & leaning into curves & enjoying the ride & riding for times on a dragaway. Most significant safety issue is alcohol usage; half of the motorcycle deaths in the United States involve a rider who was drinking & 70% of all motorcycle accidents involve riders who have had a drink (NHTSA, 2003).
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riding hard = following MSF safety rules with a calm, alert, & focused mindset on the road during quick acceleration & shifting weight & leaning into curves & enjoying the ride & riding for times on a dragaway. Most significant safety issue is alcohol usage; half of the motorcycle deaths in the United States involve a rider who was drinking & 70% of all motorcycle accidents involve riders who have had a drink (NHTSA, 2003).
I just want to buy a larger box.
billrob71
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I've called about the new nanny program for the 2014 RSS and they said it is alot more then just a program the steering angle sensor,ABS unit and ECM are all different and it was just not that simple . I wish
ray: they would come up with a new program, be real nice to throw the bike into a turn. I know my riding ability and the bike makes it a little too safe sometimes.
murphybrown
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Is there an age limit?
On "playing" on my Spyder? :yikes: Concerned that I might have missed that memo...and I sure wouldn't want to go against the "rules"..:roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:
On "playing" on my Spyder? :yikes: Concerned that I might have missed that memo...and I sure wouldn't want to go against the "rules"..:roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:
Yazz
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I'm not riding behind you anymore :gaah:
Rob Rodriguez
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I have a 2012 RS I bought last year as a holdover. Currently has about 4500 miles on it. I to come from a "sled" background. I love the Spyder and I think part of the reason is its a very similar ride to a sled. There are some things I would change about the Spyder and they are partly based on sled riding.
Power. The RS or RSS needs more power in my opinion. It's plenty fast enough for me on top end but in my opinion it needs more boost between 0 and 75 mph. My sled has more (REV 600 HO....that's old now) and I wish the Spyder did as well. I'm not sure if the engine needs more power (or different power band) or just some weight saving would work. BRP has done an excellent job shaving weight of their sleds. I'm not sure why they don't do the same with the RS, RSS.
Nanny. The nanny definitely needs a "sport" mode or "race" mode or "fool around" mode. Like a sled I love to ride the Spyder hard in the twisties and the nanny just kicks in too early for my liking sometimes. We need to be able to push the bike harder.
Shocks. BRP needs to have an option for high performance shocks all the way around. The fox option for the front is OK but I've never been real fond of Fox shocks and to only upgrade the front without the rear seems silly. Again BRP does a great job offering high performance suspensions/shocks on sleds and I don't see any reason why they can't also do this on the Spyder.
Handlebars. WTF is up with the handlebars on these things. There is ZERO adjustment. My sled has a ton of adjustment on the bars. My Harley has some adjustment on the bars. The SPYDER has none. This is a fail in my opinion and BRP needs to change it.
Thumb Throttle. Have one on the sled and want one on the Spyder. The bars move way to much on a Spyder to have a twist grip. Sleds, ATV's...they have thumb throttles for this reason and there should be an option on the Spyder for one.
Brakes. Yes I want a brake lever on my Spyder just like the sled. I'd prefer this over the foot brake. I want it to work exactly like it does now by controlling all 3 brakes...I just want a lever.
Please don't confuse riding hard with not riding safe. I've met plenty of people on the road who weren't riding hard and were way more unsafe than I was.
Power. The RS or RSS needs more power in my opinion. It's plenty fast enough for me on top end but in my opinion it needs more boost between 0 and 75 mph. My sled has more (REV 600 HO....that's old now) and I wish the Spyder did as well. I'm not sure if the engine needs more power (or different power band) or just some weight saving would work. BRP has done an excellent job shaving weight of their sleds. I'm not sure why they don't do the same with the RS, RSS.
Nanny. The nanny definitely needs a "sport" mode or "race" mode or "fool around" mode. Like a sled I love to ride the Spyder hard in the twisties and the nanny just kicks in too early for my liking sometimes. We need to be able to push the bike harder.
Shocks. BRP needs to have an option for high performance shocks all the way around. The fox option for the front is OK but I've never been real fond of Fox shocks and to only upgrade the front without the rear seems silly. Again BRP does a great job offering high performance suspensions/shocks on sleds and I don't see any reason why they can't also do this on the Spyder.
Handlebars. WTF is up with the handlebars on these things. There is ZERO adjustment. My sled has a ton of adjustment on the bars. My Harley has some adjustment on the bars. The SPYDER has none. This is a fail in my opinion and BRP needs to change it.
Thumb Throttle. Have one on the sled and want one on the Spyder. The bars move way to much on a Spyder to have a twist grip. Sleds, ATV's...they have thumb throttles for this reason and there should be an option on the Spyder for one.
Brakes. Yes I want a brake lever on my Spyder just like the sled. I'd prefer this over the foot brake. I want it to work exactly like it does now by controlling all 3 brakes...I just want a lever.
Please don't confuse riding hard with not riding safe. I've met plenty of people on the road who weren't riding hard and were way more unsafe than I was.
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I agree almost completely with you Rob. I like my foot brake but wouldn't mind a hand brake either... But I'd love a "high end" RS-S. If they want to make the RS the lower end/cheap bike fine. But make a good high-end sport model. I'd be all over it. Want to bring in younger customers? That's how. The RS-S was just good enough to get me in...but I want more and I'd pay for it.
Sarge707
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I don,t think you will see the 1330 in an RS!
BRP can up the HP in the Twin to 120 or 136 any time they want! ( And they may?)
I predict a Entry level machine (Sub $12,000 Maybe $10,999) with the 900 ACE Triple at about 90 HP and tons of low end torque to get New People in the door.:yikes:
BRP can up the HP in the Twin to 120 or 136 any time they want! ( And they may?)
I predict a Entry level machine (Sub $12,000 Maybe $10,999) with the 900 ACE Triple at about 90 HP and tons of low end torque to get New People in the door.:yikes:
Rob Rodriguez
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Completely agree. They need to build a no frills RS in the $12K range to attract new riders. Then have the RSS be the high performance sport option. No offense to anyone here but I just can't see myself ever riding an RT or RTS. Maybe....maybe an ST but even that doesn't really appeal to me.
figmotoday
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What are the differences between the 2012 RS & 2012 RSS?
And are there differences between RS & RSS in 10,11,13,14s?
When I went shopping, I found these differences between the 2012 RS & RSS. The RSS had more paint schemes/options & RSS had an upgraded suspension. Other then those 2 items, HP, torque, engine type/size, power band, weight, & performance were the identical on the RS & RSS.
Maybe older & newer RS & RSS comparisons are different.
And are there differences between RS & RSS in 10,11,13,14s?
When I went shopping, I found these differences between the 2012 RS & RSS. The RSS had more paint schemes/options & RSS had an upgraded suspension. Other then those 2 items, HP, torque, engine type/size, power band, weight, & performance were the identical on the RS & RSS.
Maybe older & newer RS & RSS comparisons are different.
Rob Rodriguez
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The only other difference I know is is the rims. The RSS has a different rim design. Oh and the seat cover has stitching. Other than the shocks the RSS upgrades are purely cosmetic as near as I can tell. That's why I bought an RS. I didn't feel the extra $ for the RSS was justifiable.
spydaman60
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the fox shocks on the rss in2012 made my decision easier to spend the extra for the rss. to each his own!:thumbup:
figmotoday
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Rob,
That was my logic as well. I've kept my RS stock & continue to ride miles to see if I need aftermarket items. 24,000 miles later & the only things I have done are the recommended service & maintenance items, new tire, new belt (got a hole in the middle of belt), adjusted shocks to 5 & added a nelson rigg tank bag for my old school maps. On all of my machines, I ride for plenty of miles & time to get used to stock and then decide if I need aftermarket. When selling, I've never been able to recoup my aftermarket costs.
That was my logic as well. I've kept my RS stock & continue to ride miles to see if I need aftermarket items. 24,000 miles later & the only things I have done are the recommended service & maintenance items, new tire, new belt (got a hole in the middle of belt), adjusted shocks to 5 & added a nelson rigg tank bag for my old school maps. On all of my machines, I ride for plenty of miles & time to get used to stock and then decide if I need aftermarket. When selling, I've never been able to recoup my aftermarket costs.
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