bone crusher
Alignment Specialist
This is a must read....love the color of the bike too!!
http://www.gizmag.com/plug-in-hybrid-can-am-spyder-three-wheel/17446/
http://www.gizmag.com/plug-in-hybrid-can-am-spyder-three-wheel/17446/
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Hybrid Spyder on the way? MUST READ!! Really Cool!
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IWN2RYD
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Pretty cool. You will find it originally posted here... http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24703
tatt2r
PhotoShop Master
this one has video ...my french isn't all that good ...
http://green.autoblog.com/2011/01/0...rid-can-am-spyder-underway-w-video/#continued
http://green.autoblog.com/2011/01/0...rid-can-am-spyder-underway-w-video/#continued
bone crusher
Alignment Specialist
Notice that it is a Hybrid not electric. All they need is a smaller engine with a bigger charging source and very efficient lightweight batteries. The weight shouldn't be a problem. You've already got full size SUV Hybrids and full electric cars that weight a lot more.
Yeah, but those batteries in the cars/SUVs weigh over 500 pounds? Also, the traction battery works almost like a supercharger...faster acceleration...very cool but still not perfected...a battery with enough power for us not to lose that great 0-60 time is certainly not perfected yet...yet...
I had a Lexus hybrid SUV....was 1.0 seconds faster to 60 than the internal combustion only (RX350)...pretty darn quick!
Firefly
Active member
Where do you come up with 1,100 pounds?
bone crusher
Alignment Specialist
Fire,
The 'traction' battery in a hybrid is VERY heavy...they're also not environmentally friendly when they have to be disposed of...
They will add to the weight significantly, unless the technology gets better and fast!
Campverdefela
New member
I don't speak French either but sort of got the gist of it. Pretty video but could have shown us a little more mechanics. Loved the high tech wind tunnel:roflblack:
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Thanks very interesting.
Thanks very interesting.
Firefly
Active member
But if done right it can have a much smaller gas engine.
SilverSurfer
RT-S PE#0391
What I Like About It
Just looking at the video posted by tatt2r, I'd simply luv to get ahold of the front wheels, tires and fenders of the thing! A reasonably wider wheel/tire, with aero-efficient fenders that don't pocket the airflow and lessen drag. Wonder how those'd work on my RT-S?
On the other hand, I can't imagine what one of those would cost, especially an RT version, when I dumped out $30K (after tax and options) for my PE 0391. It wouldn't be worth it if the range is like most electric cars (about 160 miles on the most efficient). Guess we'll have to wait'n see on proposed specs. I really just hope that I can economically run my current RT-S to the end of its service life before the world runs out of oil.
~ Surfer
Just looking at the video posted by tatt2r, I'd simply luv to get ahold of the front wheels, tires and fenders of the thing! A reasonably wider wheel/tire, with aero-efficient fenders that don't pocket the airflow and lessen drag. Wonder how those'd work on my RT-S?
On the other hand, I can't imagine what one of those would cost, especially an RT version, when I dumped out $30K (after tax and options) for my PE 0391. It wouldn't be worth it if the range is like most electric cars (about 160 miles on the most efficient). Guess we'll have to wait'n see on proposed specs. I really just hope that I can economically run my current RT-S to the end of its service life before the world runs out of oil.
~ Surfer
From the article:
The team also aims to give the vehicle a total range of 600 km (375 miles) and a range of 30 km (20 miles) in electric mode.
chillirider
New member
Tell you what I've had a Ford Fusion Hybrid for a year now and love it! 40 mile to the gallon for a midsize sedan. I applaud BRP for taking on this challenge! :clap:
GloryRyders
MOgang Member
This sounds cool:clap:It sure would cut down on the gas stops and with gas goin to maybe $5.00 a gsal (if you can believe the news) it would really save some money
hyea: I just wonder how fast they would want to get back the $11 million investment:lecturef_smilie:. They will probably be pretty expensive:gaah:
hyea: I just wonder how fast they would want to get back the $11 million investment:lecturef_smilie:. They will probably be pretty expensive:gaah:
LittleJohn
New member
This sounds cool:clap:It sure would cut down on the gas stops and with gas goin to maybe $5.00 a gsal (if you can believe the news) it would really save some money
Dont fall too far into the trap that hybrids are less expensive to operate. True, gas cost is lower, but you have to factor in electric to charge it if it needs supplemental charging, battery costs at replacement, and Im sure theres more, but I dont own a hybrid.
The main argument for a hybrid is its "green" characteristis, but even that is up for debate as the waste produced manufacturing the batteries is supposedly quite high.
All that said, this looks to be a cool vehicle. Lotsa torque can be oobtained from electric motors. Could be a lil rocket!!
bone crusher
Alignment Specialist
Hmmmmm...the traction battery is really used to get the vehicle going or for super-fast bursts of acceleration...as soon as you hit a certain programmed limit, the engine will kick on...the battery is recharged by braking and when the engine is running...it's a neat system, but not totally efficient yet.
The added weight of the traction battery, likely in the bike to be more on the side of 200-250 pounds vs. 500-800 (whatever it is) in the SUVs/Prius will be have to made up somehow...if you make the engine smaller, you would really need a bigger battery and doing that might be counter-productive...I think NASCAR has a few auto makers that are looking into hybrid options for the vehicles...the cars are actually quicker in many cases, but you do need a good engine.
We have to remember that the Spyder is for fun and speed...if we want 0-60 in 8 seconds on the Spyder with better mileage, it could easily be done...however, if you want to retain fast acceleration and the 'wow' factor, more advanced engineering will have to take place...we simply need newer and more efficient battery technology. I think this is the barrier for the design of this vehicle at this time...
I have a minivan now...I miss my hybrid...they are really neat!
Bob Denman
New member
This technology sounds very exciting... but what would a machine like this actually retail for? How many of us would be willing to pay for it at this time?
The actual operating costs were discussed in an earlier post... Is there enough excess electrical production capacity available in the power grid here in Norh America to power up all of these hybrids that are being either planned or actually produced?
The actual operating costs were discussed in an earlier post... Is there enough excess electrical production capacity available in the power grid here in Norh America to power up all of these hybrids that are being either planned or actually produced?
bone crusher
Alignment Specialist
Anything can be made...it'd be great for the U.S. to bring some industry back!
As far as cost, I'd compare to hybrids vs. standard...likely 10-20% more...then again, who knows at this time as it's likely a few years out....you'd likely gain about 20% in fuel efficiency...but if you ride it hard, that would be reduced...
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