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How to survive a knife attack

johnsimion said:
The problem with concealed carry is that it would work great if you could **identify** the bad guy before he gets close enough to attack. However, that's not how robberies occur. Bad guys don't wear signs to identify themselves and they aren't stupid enough to draw their knife or gun 20' away and stand there and wait while you pull out your own gun. No, they will pretend to be innocent and approach close to you and then suddenly they'll pull their own knife or gun, usually behind you if they can, when it's too late for you to do anything about it. There were COPS killed in their patrol car here in Las Vegas and it went down exactly like that. They never saw it coming. There were a number of armed individuals present when Gabrielle Giffords was shot, and what good did it do them? None whatsoever. Not one of them drew a gun. There simply isn't time to react. And if you start pulling your gun on everybody you think might possibly be trying to rob you, pretty soon you're going to shoot some innocent person.

So, if you don't have time to react, what benefit did you get from carrying? If you're carrying, they may shoot you first lest you use your gun on them. At best, you could be robbed not only of your money but of your gun as well. Unless you're going to walk around with your gun in your hand, loaded, cocked and ready, there's not a darned thing you can do about the situation. The best defense is to avoid getting into this situation in the first place. This is why I don't carry a gun on my person or in my car. Please note, I'm not "anti-gun," I am just "pro" common sense. I do keep one under my bed because if anyone enters my house, my alarm and locked bedroom door will give me the time I need to respond and actually use it. But concealed carry in public? That's illogical paranoia. No thanks.
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You are correct about an absolute ambush. There isn't much you can do about it. However, a face to face confrontation is different. I am willing to take a few cuts to get off a shot, rather than to die doing nothing except being a victim. With the proper training and practice you will be surprised how you can turn the tables on an assailant.
 
Grandpot said:
You are correct about an absolute ambush. There isn't much you can do about it. However, a face to face confrontation is different. I am willing to take a few cuts to get off a shot, rather than to die doing nothing except being a victim. With the proper training and practice you will be surprised how you can turn the tables on an assailant.
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I honestly never intended this to be a 'gun' thread...oh well...
 
Mad Mac said:
BANG!! YOUR IT! Macnojoke
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:D that would be my plan as well... :2thumbs:
As far as not being able to identify the "bad guys": that's what Situational Awareness is all about! nojoke


It even works if you're only armed with an evolved sense of fear, and some really good sneakers! :roflblack:
 
Grandpot said:
You are correct about an absolute ambush. There isn't much you can do about it. However, a face to face confrontation is different. I am willing to take a few cuts to get off a shot, rather than to die doing nothing except being a victim. With the proper training and practice you will be surprised how you can turn the tables on an assailant.
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What HE said!! Mac:doorag:
 
Johnsimion:
I do keep one under my bed because if anyone enters my house, my alarm and locked bedroom door will give me the time I need to respond and actually use it. But concealed carry in public? That's illogical paranoia. No thanks.[/QUOTE]

Man, I was hoping to move to L.V. when my house sold. If you have to keep your "bedroom" door locked, I'd better re-think my decision. I knew that L.V. crime rates were higher than where I live (and I'm a native Californian, so I'm used to crime), I just didn't think I would have to go to those extremes! Mac:doorag:
 
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Mad Mac said:
Johnsimion: I do keep one under my bed because if anyone enters my house, my alarm and locked bedroom door will give me the time I need to respond and actually use it. But concealed carry in public? That's illogical paranoia. No thanks.
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Man, I was hoping to move to L.V. when my house sold. If you have to keep your "bedroom" door locked, I'd better re-think my decision. I knew that L.V. crime rates were higher than where I live (and I'm a native Californian, so I'm used to crime), I just didn't think I would have to go to those extremes! Mac:doorag:[/QUOTE]

No, that's not why he keeps his bedroom door locked....:joke:
 
UtahPete said:
Man, I was hoping to move to L.V. when my house sold. If you have to keep your "bedroom" door locked, I'd better re-think my decision. I knew that L.V. crime rates were higher than where I live (and I'm a native Californian, so I'm used to crime), I just didn't think I would have to go to those extremes! Mac:doorag:
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No, that's not why he keeps his bedroom door locked....:joke:[/QUOTE

NOW I GET IT, or maybe I should have worded it differently. Darn!! Mac:joke:
 
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Mad Mac said:
No, that's not why he keeps his bedroom door locked....:joke:[/QUOTE

NOW I GET IT, or maybe I should have worded it differently. Darn!! Mac:joke:
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At the moment I have my grown son and my brother-in-law and his wife all under my roof, so that's part of it.
However, the point about the crime rate is, regrettably, somewhat true. The neighbor who lives directly behind me had a guy try to break in right in the middle of the day -- unsuccessful, he couldn't break through the door but he did make a nice video on the Ring doorbell and is now serving time for his crime. We've also had people smashing vehicle windows to steal stuff. And this is a well-off gated community far away from the "bad" areas. However, I came here from Lee's Summit, Missouri and my next-door neighbor there had both his boat AND an ATV stolen from in front of his house. All these have been either "easy" crimes (or they thought they'd be easy). I don't know anyone in either place who's had a serious break-in where there was a security door or even anyone whose house was entered through a window. They exist but they're not really common. I suspect there is no place in America that is really that much worse than another.
 
Mad Mac said:
When I played football in the A.F. in the 80's, I could do the 40 in just under 3.5 seconds. I think he did the 100 in LESS than that!!
Macnojoke
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The world record in the 40 yard dash is over 4 seconds ............. No way in hell you ran it in under 3.5.............. :shocked:


Don't worry, I hear stuff like this daily on a few of these posters favorite channel...............CNN. :roflblack:
 
johnsimion said:
At the moment I have my grown son and my brother-in-law and his wife all under my roof, so that's part of it.
However, the point about the crime rate is, regrettably, somewhat true. The neighbor who lives directly behind me had a guy try to break in right in the middle of the day -- unsuccessful, he couldn't break through the door but he did make a nice video on the Ring doorbell and is now serving time for his crime. We've also had people smashing vehicle windows to steal stuff. And this is a well-off gated community far away from the "bad" areas. However, I came here from Lee's Summit, Missouri and my next-door neighbor there had both his boat AND an ATV stolen from in front of his house. All these have been either "easy" crimes (or they thought they'd be easy). I don't know anyone in either place who's had a serious break-in where there was a security door or even anyone whose house was entered through a window. They exist but they're not really common. I suspect there is no place in America that is really that much worse than another.
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When I lived in CA(Riverside). I had a garage full of m/c's(race bike(s) & street bike), boat, sand-rail and plenty of tools. I had every thing chained down, including the roll-a-way(s), and all the tools that could have been used to "compromise" the chain and/or the locks, were hidden.
The morning we we're to hit the road for Wisc., our neighbor got hit and a TV and stereo got lifted. We want to move to L.V. to be closer to the kids/grandkids and are looking for a gated/senior complex somewhere SW of the center of the city. We need to get out of the "snow belt" and someplace with more going on and things to do in our Golden Years since we are both retired. Plan on checking on some areas this summer. Mac:yikes:
 
Mad Mac said:
When I lived in CA(Riverside). I had a garage full of m/c's(race bike(s) & street bike), boat, sand-rail and plenty of tools. I had every thing chained down, including the roll-a-way(s), and all the tools that could have been used to "compromise" the chain and/or the locks, were hidden.
The morning we we're to hit the road for Wisc., our neighbor got hit and a TV and stereo got lifted. We want to move to L.V. to be closer to the kids/grandkids and are looking for a gated/senior complex somewhere SW of the center of the city. We need to get out of the "snow belt" and someplace with more going on and things to do in our Golden Years since we are both retired. Plan on checking on some areas this summer. Mac:yikes:
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Try St. GEORGE, Utah nojoke
 
Holly said:
The world record in the 40 yard dash is over 4 seconds ............. No way in hell you ran it in under 3.5.............. :shocked:


Don't worry, I hear stuff like this daily on a few of these posters favorite channel...............CNN. :roflblack:
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OK, OK, I might have fudged a little. Sounded good in theory! Maybe it was 10 seconds!!!:roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:Mac:duh:
P.S. I don't watch CNN at all!!
 
Holly said:
The world record in the 40 yard dash is over 4 seconds ............. No way in hell you ran it in under 3.5.............. :shocked:


Don't worry, I hear stuff like this daily on a few of these posters favorite channel...............CNN. :roflblack:
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When I was in high school I was able to run the 40 yards in 3 ................ oh wait, you meant seconds, not minutes :roflblack:
 
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