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How much oil in the 2014?

murphybrown

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I am curious how much oil the 2014's are going to need....I know in cages that can go a great distance between oil changes, the oil reservoir is usually LARGE... yep just been thinking I would see something on that...so curiosity got the best of me...so ?????? Thanks..
 
If they still use a dry sump system as in the previous years and the holding tank being the same size there shouldent be much change in oil capisity,It sounds like they have moved the filler inlet to under the seat for ease of use.
Mike
 
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I am curious how much oil the 2014's are going to need....I know in cages that can go a great distance between oil changes, the oil reservoir is usually LARGE...

Not necessarily. Most cages have capacities of 5 quarts or less with engine displacements of 3-4-5-6,000 cc. Our Spyders at 4 quarts are actually large compared to the displacement of 1,000 cc. Cages do have larger filters. I think the overriding thing is autos burn so clean that the nasty byproducts of combustion are just not there to get into the oil and contaminate it. They are also turning much lower rpm and just "not working as hard".

Or look at 1800cc Gold Wings. Since the 2001 GL1800 model came out, they have 8,000-mile oil change intervals, not even specifying synthetic just regular motorcycle oil. They hold 4 quarts of oil. Their average cruising rpm is probably about half of the Spyder's so on a revolution per mile basis maybe it all works out. And that thinking could apply to the new RT's as well. If their cruising rpm is much lower than before, that's fewer engine revolutions per mile.
 
I am still waiting for the 2014 Owners Manual to be posted online. I would like to have a copy to ready prior to taking delivery of one.nojoke
 
Not necessarily. Most cages have capacities of 5 quarts or less with engine displacements of 3-4-5-6,000 cc. Our Spyders at 4 quarts are actually large compared to the displacement of 1,000 cc. Cages do have larger filters. I think the overriding thing is autos burn so clean that the nasty byproducts of combustion are just not there to get into the oil and contaminate it. They are also turning much lower rpm and just "not working as hard".

Or look at 1800cc Gold Wings. Since the 2001 GL1800 model came out, they have 8,000-mile oil change intervals, not even specifying synthetic just regular motorcycle oil. They hold 4 quarts of oil. Their average cruising rpm is probably about half of the Spyder's so on a revolution per mile basis maybe it all works out. And that thinking could apply to the new RT's as well. If their cruising rpm is much lower than before, that's fewer engine revolutions per mile.

It's not the engine that destroys the oil. Though high RPM does put a bit more stress on the oil, it's the wet clutch and transmission gears that crush the oil and diminish its lubricating ability so quickly. That is why a true Ester based, synthetic oil
like Amsoil, is so much better than the 'Blended' or doctored mineral oil 'Synthetics'.
 
Don't know..!!

but don't think the amount will change. Things are a bit better in the tranny with the 6th speed and the motor running at lower rpm's. Oil will have less abuse therefore less changes needed. Filtering may be different a spin on would be nice..we'll see...!! :ohyea:
 
One technical detail I saw/heard in one of the 2014 YouTube videos made me think that the engine and tranny oil may be separate in the 1330 ACE engine, anybody knows for sure what the setup is?
 
It's not the engine that destroys the oil. Though high RPM does put a bit more stress on the oil, it's the wet clutch and transmission gears that crush the oil and diminish its lubricating ability so quickly. That is why a true Ester based, synthetic oil
like Amsoil, is so much better than the 'Blended' or doctored mineral oil 'Synthetics'.

Both destroy the oil. The primary source of "dirt" in the oil is combustion product blow-by. Super clean engines do not contaminate the oil as readily. Yes, wet clutches and transmission gears put loads on the oil that are different from engines and require some additional qualities in the oil to handle that. But if that were the only reason for oil breakdown, that wouldn't explain the 8000-9000 mile intervals on Gold Wings and the new RT's. So let's compromise and say both are a factor.
 
Oil Capacity

These are the numbers I have at hand for a full change (oil and filter) on the 1330:


  • SE6 models: 5.6 quarts (5.3 L)
  • SM6 models: 5.2 quarts (4.9 L)

Note that we recommend having a certified dealer do the oil change - especially since the intervals have been increased to 9,300 miles (15,000 km) between oil changes. This way your service technician will have a chance to look at the Spyder.
 
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