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How many 2013 ST(S) owners have heat issues?

How many 2013 ST/RS owners have "excessive heat issues"?

  • Yes, I have what I consider excessive heat issues

    Votes: 19 59.4%
  • No, I don't have what I consider excessive heat

    Votes: 13 40.6%

  • Total voters
    32
  • Poll closed .
So I have over 2,000 miles on a 2013 ST-S in three weeks. This is after riding 65,000 miles on a pair of 2008 GS SM-5s. I can tell you the 2013 is a little hotter on the left knee than the 2008s and I can tell the gas cap is warmer when I grab it, but nothing I would consider excessive. As for how it is ridden, it is ridden hard. One day I rode 546 miles from 8 AM to 5 PM in 95 degree heat (NO interstate or U.S. Highways) and it really was no concern, but I could feel more heat on my left knee. My rear tire is going to be bald in the middle by 3,000 miles so I do not baby the thing.

Clearly some units suffer from this more than others. BRP makes decisions based on documented facts, not how many complain on a forum. BRP sells units to their dealers, not consumer direct. If you want something to happen, BRP needs to see the hard data from their dealers. Unhappy owners need to work through their dealers so the issues can be documented and the data analyzed by BRP. This is going to do more in the long run for them to determine the root cause of the heat issues, they need the facts, not just complaining. Decisions are made based on hard facts and data supplied by their dealer network, analyzing serial numbers, ECU software versions and even vendor supply sequences. Who knows, maybe there is a bad batch of sensors that is supplying bad info to the ECU and the hot units are running leaner than they should? More airflow is a good thing, but my guess is there will be more to this than just heat shields and air intake. Why are some spark plugs ghost white? Are these the same units as the ones getting hot? They need to document all of this and it will get resolved, just my opinion.

I agree with most of what you have to say but I think that BRP also needs to hear directly from the owners. Some dealers do not pass the info on to the factory so we need to pass it on to them directly. I don't think that this survey will accomplish anything but I think that everyone who responds should send an email to BRP to register their complaint.
 
Please send complaints to http://www.nhtsa.gov/ and also to brp...work with your dealer and make sure you get a case #.....do not let them close your file until everything is good on your unit....my husband could probably fix my heat issues....but we purchased a Spyder in good faith that it would take me around this country and Canada....and it will not....BRP needs to step up.......if you continue to fix the problems on the Spyders BRP will do nothing.....
 
2013 RT-S Heat Problems

Mine has been to the dealer several times including RECALL. BRP says there are NO Heat issues. How does BRP explain my MELTING MC & WIRING HARNESS and who knows what else?:banghead::banghead:
I also filed a complaint with BRP and NHTSA.

Melting 8.jpgRT-S Wire Harness.jpg

Dealer Tech did the recall, see results http://www.spydertechnician.blogspot.com
Even with the recall done the HEAT ISSUES are still there:gaah:
 
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Yes, head problem

My wife has a 2013 ST-S and she had complained about heat problems since she has had it but I did not think that there was anything that could be done about it. She has excessive heat on both feet.
 
My wife has a 2013 ST-S and she had complained about heat problems since she has had it but I did not think that there was anything that could be done about it. She has excessive heat on both feet.


Search around the site a bit. There are a few improvements you can make.

From expensive....changing the side panels $700....to not so much, adding an aftermarket air filter like JT's filter. $200

Some other little things like bottom panel removal or modding....
 
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