How many 2013 RT owners DON'T have a heat problem??

[BigJohnP]

Little to None

I have had a limited amount of heat on the right foot. This was corrected by removing the end of the rain defector tupperware, which also gave me much needed room for the big feet. Other then that not any more heat the I have had on any other bike I have riden. I love my 2013 RT-S and look forward to riding again in the spring, it has already. started snowing, dam.

 

[Questions]

I have a 2013 RT Ltd with no heat issues as of yet, the right foot gets rather warm sometimes and the Tupperware is a little warm but now the cooler air is coming in the extra heat kinda feels good, Why doesn't someone try and harness the extra heat and use it for a riding suit for us colder blooded riders in the form of a riding suit. Have a connection from the bike into the pant leg or somewhere just a thought

 

[cuznjohn]

heat

ok i know i have foot problems and my feet most likely are more sensitive than most, i have never had a heat problem with two wheels b4 but they do freeze when the cold weather comes in. but i think all the people that say they don't have a heat problem must be numb from the waste down because i just can't understand why some do and some don't with the same bike.

 

[Jeriatric]

Before their release the 2013's were said to have no heat issues. But, that report came from folks who had test ridden them in Canada. In late fall (if memory serves me). Lesson learned. Trust, but verify.

 

[stewartj239]

i think all the people that say they don't have a heat problem must be numb from the waste down because i just can't understand why some do and some don't with the same bike.

Another wildcard in this whole thing is the way people perceive things, will be different. I say I have no heat problem, but you might get on might bike and say I do. I think that people's opinions come from their own personal history. I know that I've seen many comments in the past from people who ride the air cooled bikes and those will roast you. The Spyder compared to them, runs cool. If you have no other bike experience, then the Spyder might seem hot. I'm not suggesting there is NOT a problem. I'm just suggesting that if there is no physical evidence of melted parts, then the claim of having heat issues might be based on perception - whether it be right or wrong.

 

[Jeriatric]

Real or perceived.

One of the pre release advertising statements for 2014 goes something like this.

"Heat issue has been addressed"

 

[gottago]

I have a 2013 RTS se5 with no heat problems at all. It is a little warm but haven't had hot gas cap or any problem with melting. Can't wait for spring so I can get back out on it..

 

[MouthPiece]

Sometime ago Scotty adeptly pointed out that there are different heat issues. BRP has addressed, to the satisfaction of many, but certainly not to all, this issue by their "heat fix". However, there are other heat issues that have been expounded on this forum. These issues have been more in the area of preference viz a viz problem.

I for one knew of the heat issue out of the "black hole of hell". I knew it with my 2010, and I knew that there would be heat with my 2013. It's just a fact of life. I for one would not label this as a "problem" because I was well aware of it before I bought my spyder.

Would I PREFER not to have this heat??? Hell yes I would. However, to describe this as a problem I can't go that far. Problem suggests that there is no responsibility on my part of knowing about this issue prior to purchase. Preference does not. Just my thoughts.

Chris

 

[stewartj239]

Real or perceived.

One of the pre release advertising statements for 2014 goes something like this.

"Heat issue has been addressed"

BRP's statement is pretty ambiguous because people have been complaining about heat issues on the RT all the way back to 2010. So what heat issue are they talking about? I bet they don't go into detail.

 

[BeeYellow58]

I love my 2013 RTS.

I am curious...My 2013 RT doesn't seem to have the dreaded heat problem. How many others are out there. I am completely satisfied with my Spyder.

i love my 2013 RTS. Sometimes I feel like there's too much heat coming out. Haven't decided what to do about it, if anything can be done. Ideas anyone?:bowdown:

 

[Cruzr Joe]

i love my 2013 RTS. Sometimes I feel like there's too much heat coming out. Haven't decided what to do about it, if anything can be done. Ideas anyone?:bowdown:

Plenty of ideas, depending where your heat issue is.

Right Foot?

Under the seat?

Passenger Legs?

Under the "Glove" box?


Cruzr Joe

 

[Vrooom]

Only 1400 miles

Bought my RT-Se5 with only 400 miles on it. Had recall done. Notice heat on right foot and coming up below seat storage area. Is it excessive? Not yet, except for worrying about it after I read problems some have had. Now at 1400 miles I am enjoying the ride. Hope no further heat or gasoline problems develop. As an artist, the scenery is more important to me than speed or curve carving, so I'm not be pushing the mechanicals to the max. Often ride two up, though.

 

[BigJohnP]

I agree

Another wildcard in this whole thing is the way people perceive things, will be different. I say I have no heat problem, but you might get on might bike and say I do. I think that people's opinions come from their own personal history. I know that I've seen many comments in the past from people who ride the air cooled bikes and those will roast you. The Spyder compared to them, runs cool. If you have no other bike experience, then the Spyder might seem hot. I'm not suggesting there is NOT a problem. I'm just suggesting that if there is no physical evidence of melted parts, then the claim of having heat issues might be based on perception - whether it be right or wrong.

I too have riden bikes that run so hot you need to be careful where you put your feet and your legs. Compared to those bike my Spyder runs very cool. I sometimes wonder if there is enough air flow between the tupperware and the engine. I don`t see away to increase that air flow, but will keep look to see the best way to increase that air flow.

 

[poppychip]

heat

ok,have 2013 rtl, yes right foot can get hot,up around glove box, undreseat,but NOT hot enough to burn,rode hot days of july in Mo.,Ar.,90 plus degrees but had a blast,and no more heat then on my HD Roadking last year.I have recall, but haven't gone to dealer yet for fix,cold weather is coming I'll get it done then,too busy riding on these last warm days.
Note our friends have a HD trike and they have some heat issues too,yes there different,but shows ya,just got to deal with heat on ANY bike
hope this helps your poll,we love ours,and will ride it heat or no heat.:clap:

 

[Dan McNally]

Lots of posts, and here is my takeaway. For some reason, some of us have problems and others don't. Many of those who don't, seem to discount the issues others are reporting. If you are one of them, please explain why our master cylinders, charcoal canisters, and brake cables have melted and yours haven't. We are not imagining these issues . . . it isn't how we perceive heat . . . those parts melted . . . that wasn't a perception! Since all our Spyders are built the same (are they?), perhaps the issue isn't purely airflow, but something to do with computer settings, effecting how hot the engine runs? Are dealers not putting the same version of software, to include all sequential updates, on every 2013 Spyder? Are the updates supposed to be loaded in sequence, like some Windows Updates, where you have to do the older ones first, and then do each sequential update, or is the latest and greatest all that is needed? I strongly suspect that software and how it is loaded may be a culprit, here, since not every motorcycle mechanic is a computer IT specialist.

 

[Omcge]

Air Flo under tupperware

I too have riden bikes that run so hot you need to be careful where you put your feet and your legs. Compared to those bike my Spyder runs very cool. I sometimes wonder if there is enough air flow between the tupperware and the engine. I don`t see away to increase that air flow, but will keep look to see the best way to increase that air flow.

You can increase air flow by eliminating the stock air box and resonator and going to the Kewl Metal intake.

 

[stewartj239]

Lots of posts, and here is my takeaway. For some reason, some of us have problems and others don't. Many of those who don't, seem to discount the issues others are reporting. If you are one of them, please explain why our master cylinders, charcoal canisters, and brake cables have melted and yours haven't. We are not imagining these issues . . . it isn't how we perceive heat . . . those parts melted . . . that wasn't a perception! Since all our Spyders are built the same (are they?), perhaps the issue isn't purely airflow, but something to do with computer settings, effecting how hot the engine runs? Are dealers not putting the same version of software, to include all sequential updates, on every 2013 Spyder? Are the updates supposed to be loaded in sequence, like some Windows Updates, where you have to do the older ones first, and then do each sequential update, or is the latest and greatest all that is needed? I strongly suspect that software and how it is loaded may be a culprit, here, since not every motorcycle mechanic is a computer IT specialist.

If you have melted parts, then that is physical evidence that you have a heat problem - no doubt. It you don't, then the opinions are based on perception and often based on past experience - as you can see in the posts - neither being right or wrong.

I too believe that the problem which causes some parts to melt and others to not, is something other than the physical pieces / parts / assembly, etc. I wonder if the ECM on the bikes that are melting parts are running way lean generating that excess heat. It is just a theory, but it is as good as any

 

[Dan McNally]

If you have melted parts, then that is physical evidence that you have a heat problem - no doubt. It you don't, then the opinions are based on perception and often based on past experience - as you can see in the posts - neither being right or wrong.

I too believe that the problem which causes some parts to melt and others to not, is something other than the physical pieces / parts / assembly, etc. I wonder if the ECM on the bikes that are melting parts are running way lean generating that excess heat. It is just a theory, but it is as good as any

There has to be some common factor, any, unless the quality control is terrible, the physical plant on each Spyder should be close to identical . . . that just leaves software and how it is loaded . . . and that could be caused by a myriad of things at the various delaerships . . . which OS they use, whether it is up to date with all updates, and who is doing the updates . . . with computers, garbage in, garbage out is the rule of the day.

 

[cuznjohn]

heat

There has to be some common factor, any, unless the quality control is terrible, the physical plant on each Spyder should be close to identical . . . that just leaves software and how it is loaded . . . and that could be caused by a myriad of things at the various delaerships . . . which OS they use, whether it is up to date with all updates, and who is doing the updates . . . with computers, garbage in, garbage out is the rule of the day.

i have given this a lot of thought, there are many computers/ hard disks in this bike. our heat problems could be a communication issue between them. what brp should do is send one of the brain people that designed the bike with all his tools and computer and let him travel around the states and get the bikes with all the issues brought to him at the selling dealers and let them see for them selves just what is going on. NOW we know that this will never happen but how can a company feel that they are working on a fix for it just by reading a BUDS report and trying to figure out a problem. it's like telling a doctor that you call that you have bad pain when you raise your arm over your head and he tells you over the phone to not raise your arm that high and you will be fine. i was told in a phone call from brp that my bike is running very hot and they should have a fix for this in two weeks. than i know a member that was told that they are working on a fix and it should be done by April 0f 2014, so i think it is a GO AWAY BOY, YOU BOTHER ME approach by BRP because there might be more happy people than people that have problems. i personally am totally fed up with the bike. if i get it back tuesday with the problem that the dealer created with my parking brake and my hand brake i might try to trade it in with a dealer that i have stayed away from because of a past issue this dealer had with another brand of bike and lost his dealership over but opened up under NEW MANAGEMENT type of deal. i am frustrated being the owner of a bike that no one wants even on a trade in, only on consignment if it sells.

 

[anthony422]

HEAT PROBLEM ALSO

My 2013 Rt Limited runs great when the vehicle is moving and there is air flowing through the cavity.... My issue is when its warm out and i'm not moving that's where my issue lies, I've broke down already with a damaged evaporator canister on a brand new machine, Went out this weekend and got a brake failure warning so I added some dot4 fluid lets see if that clears, You become a little nervous going out when you don't trust your machine.... a 30k machine I may add