1330cc How fast can I safely run my F3 for how long?

[EdMat]

My Vredestein Quatrac's have an H rating. (130 MPH) . Not sure about the stock tires.

 

[Allen42]

Your stock 1330 has a redline of 8100 RPM, Add A Dynojet PV3 and your up to 8400 RPM,
Doing the Monster route and you can be up to 9200 RPM.
I would say that most Spyder owners have never been to 8100 and never will.
T.P.

Interesting. When I was experimenting the other day (purely for science of course), I swear my stock 1330 (2019 RTL) wouldn't budge over 4500rpm or 4800rpm in 6th gear, I cannot recall which it was. (Unless my memory is just completely short circuiting.) I was WOT for many minutes. I assumed that it was RPM limited, but I see the attached spec sheet for the 2015 shows torque readings up to about 7400rpm.

So it wasn't an RPM limiter, and it wasn't MPH limiter, because I have had it up to 108 a few times in the past, and now was maxed at 96mph. It just wouldn't give me any more.

So what was the limiter?

(Performance affecting "things": PedalBox (I know won't affect top end), RLS cat delete (with baffle--shouldn't matter either, but the 106 days were before the cat delete). Stock tune. Windshield lowered, me crouched down. 93 octane. 98 degrees F.)

I'll have to find another straight and carless opportunity again to verify my memory. No chance in hell I'm snapping a photo with my phone though, lol.

 

[Peter Aawen]

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I'll have to find another straight and carless opportunity again to verify my memory. No chance in hell I'm snapping a photo with my phone though, lol.

If you tried that in the wrong place/at the wrong time here in Oz, there'd be a pretty good chance that you'd get issued your very own certificate showing a pic of you travelling at a 'Police verified' speed!! :shocked: nojoke

Just Sayin'!!

But I suspect that 'the limiter' you've been running into lately is very likely the dirty great 'Wall of Air' that these Spyder things we ride need to push outta the way! Regardless of the model and even without a windshield at all, just the two tires up front and the wider width of the tupperware makes for a barn door sized 'Wall of Air' that grows exponentially larger & harder to push thru the faster you go, and just the slightest of breezes in any direction can make a massive difference in how fast you can go; and that's before you take into account any other variables that can also have an effect - things like tire sizes & widths; tire pressures; humidity levels; variations in the road surface; any inclines either way, possibly imperceptible without a theodolite; and how much extra weight you're carrying today; et al...

Oh, and if you've still got an OEM ECU program, that 'WOT' you think you were riding at would really only have been a true WOT for a second or so before it was cut back by close on 25% :shocked: And just as a further aside, there's been quite a bit of testing that's shown that removing the Cat Converter does actually improve the engine's performance ability, even if the stock ECU tune doesn't let you take much advantage of it! :sour: The Cat Converter is a significant weight imposition and an exhaust restriction; and on top of that, regardless of which engine &/or model you have, these Spyder things with a stock tune are seriously detuned!! :banghead:

 

[Hypurone]

OP, my wingman has made many cross country trips with his F3 Base, pulling a trailer, with saddlebags and the big Blue Ridge shield, doing 80+ for hours at a time... It will hold together...

 

[Yabbadabbadoo]

My Vredestein Quatrac's have an H rating. (130 MPH) . Not sure about the stock tires.

You can also get Quatracs with V rating (149 MPH) which is what I have on my F3.

 

[EdMat]

You can also get Quatracs with V rating (149 MPH) which is what I have on my F3.

True, I couldn't remember which I had so I shot low. :roflblack:

 

[petegtsv10]

Interesting. When I was experimenting the other day (purely for science of course), I swear my stock 1330 (2019 RTL) wouldn't budge over 4500rpm or 4800rpm in 6th gear, I cannot recall which it was. (Unless my memory is just completely short circuiting.) I was WOT for many minutes. I assumed that it was RPM limited, but I see the attached spec sheet for the 2015 shows torque readings up to about 7400rpm.

So it wasn't an RPM limiter, and it wasn't MPH limiter, because I have had it up to 108 a few times in the past, and now was maxed at 96mph. It just wouldn't give me any more.

So what was the limiter?

(Performance affecting "things": PedalBox (I know won't affect top end), RLS cat delete (with baffle--shouldn't matter either, but the 106 days were before the cat delete). Stock tune. Windshield lowered, me crouched down. 93 octane. 98 degrees F.)

I'll have to find another straight and carless opportunity again to verify my memory. No chance in hell I'm snapping a photo with my phone though, lol.

Most vehicles will not attain their top speed in their highest gear due to the engine's particular TQ/HP curves. For example, some 6-speed cars will go their fastest in 4th gear, 10-speed cars top out in 8th gear, etc. Even on a bicycle, one can likely go faster in a lower gear at a higher rpm than in top gear at a lower rpm!

 

[AstroTom]

What about our tires at these 85+ speeds?

My original Kenda factory tires on my 2020 are rated H, which is 130mph.

 

[DoTheDOOO]

I think taking the 130 and driving at 90 mph for the full stretch could be a fun