How does Can-Am Test New Spyders? Should I be concerned?

[broderp]

I track all expenses for my vehicles including gas fill ups and I noticed something that alarmed me the other day during my very first fill up at the gas station.

I was scrolling through the menus to see what statistics the Spyder tracks so I could start tracking them. I noticed that according to the Trip "A" stats tab on the dash that my vehicle had apparently been ran at 113 mph! :cus:

I know it wasn't me, the fastest I've rode so far is 63 mph. Looking at the "Totals" tab on the dash (that can't be cleared out) I saw the exact same thing. So I went back to the pictures i took at the dealer before I bought it and found in a video I took as i was randomly playing with the dash and controls that the 113 mph was there since day one. Attached is a screenshot of the dash clearly showing the 113 mph Max speed at only 0.7 miles!

Does anyone know if this is normal? Does Can-Am test Spyder's on a dyno or something during manufacturing or did someone actually ride my Spyder to 113mph on a new engine with less than one mile on it?

In the motorcycle and auto world, there are two schools of thought - break an engine in slowly or run it ragged when new. I don't believe in the latter and this is somewhat upsetting to see this on my new Spyder. Imagine the problems I could run into with warranty if for some reason my engine burns up and Can-am or dealer say its not covered because I ran it before it was broke in or something crazy. :gaah:

Any thoughts on this? Has anyone else seen or this on their new Spyder's?

:cheers:

 

[ARtraveler]

I have not heard any warranty claims denied because of improper break in of the engine. PS...I do agree that an engine should be broke in gently though. But the other side is out there. Be prepared for a comment or two. :bowdown:

A very good question about dyno run or not. Did someone actually do a test drive at 113? I would run that one by the dealer and show them the photo. The answer should be interesting. :yes:

 

[FrogmanDave]

That's the way mine was delivered. No big deal. Just continue to take it easy for the rest of your break in period. And by the way you can reset that top speed in the overall stats.

 

[AndysF3S]

Both my 22 F3S and my 22 Renegade XRS 900 R were run up to maximum at the dealership during the dealer prep prior to sale. I haven't seen any negative side effects on any of my many skidoos, sxs, outlanders, seadoos or spyder. After I bring them home I follow the break in as per the owners manual. Good luck with your purchase and don't worry too much about the things you can't control, enjoy the ride.

 

[broderp]

This is promising. But could you realistically get to 113mph in less than 1 mile? Like where would the dealer do this as they don't have the area to do so and the dealer is located in a pretty populated area with traffic near an interstate.

i will ask them though.....

 

[JayBros]

Stop and think about this for a moment. Is it possible that in the electronic setup of the Spyders that 113 mph was some kind of default setting? If not, do you really think multiple dealerships would have instructions to their service departments and mechanics to take out brand new machines with instructions to run them up as fast as they can allegedly go? I'm not a lawyer, but look at the potential consequences. Many states have in their motor vehicle codes a stipulation that speeding X mph above the posted speed limit is not only speeding but also reckless driving. Many, if not most dealerships are physically located in areas where access to roads capable of handling routine speeds well into triple digits don't exist. Dealerships may routinely screw customers with unreasonable fee charges, but do you really think multiple dealerships would risk their livelihoods by giving instructions to employees to run 'em like you stole 'em? Oh, my goodness, Porky just flew by.

 

[BajaRon]

I would say that JayBros is going in the right direction. Dealerships don't have the time, inclination, or affection for additional liability that running each Spyder to 113 mph would require. I'd say it's some kind of internal, electronic test of the system and not an actual road test.

Could be the 'Ride More & Worry Less' adage would apply here.

 

[JWK70]

My guess is that the speed you are seeing is a dyno type test performed at the factory. I work in an auto assembly plant and we do this test to all vehicles leaving the assembly line. In our plant the vehicle is in neutral with the engine running at idle. All 4 wheel are on a set of rollers which are driven by electric motors. The purpose of the test is to check tire balance, tire tracking and the braking system. I can only guess (and hope) that this is the case with Spyders and Ryker’s.

 

[Peter Aawen]

Back when I was much more actively involved in this sorta thing, altho it wasn't specifically for 'Spyders', every vehicle that rolled off the end of the production line was filled with oil & lube as appropriate; got a slosh of gas in the tank; & was then run out to max on a 'test bed' (I say that advisedly, cos as others have mentioned, those things aren't really 'a dyno'... ) for a prescribed amount of time; then they're shut down; the oil etc. was drained (& checked for any debris/nasty signs ) before the vehicle was released for delivery/crating/track testing or whatever. But EVERY vehicle/engine was run to maximum before their release. And while it may not be truly 'universal', this was and still is a common practice across the vehicle/engine manufacturing industry. :thumbup:

So I'd think that since more than just you have noticed this, brod, that you are seeing the result of exactly that. And, especially cos more than just you have noticed this, that it's nothing to worry about. Juuust...

Ride More, Worry Less! hyea:

 

[AndysF3S]

Sorry folks, I did not say the dealers take the machines out for a road test where they pin them to achieve the top speed you see on the display.

My dealer does have a stand for the skidoos and a stand for the spyder and other vehicles I mentioned where they check track alignment, belt alignment etc. After assembly the tech puts the vehicle on a stand not a dyno and after a rolling start pins it for about 5-10 seconds to see if the belt is aligned, track is aligned and in the case of skidoos the clutches shift out and no it doesn't do any long-term damage. I don't believe anyone sells an engine today that hasn't been cold run first and then fired up and run up according to their own standards. Cat had a program where the engine was started and had to pull full load on the dyno within a specified time or the test had to be repeated after a full cool down. JMO but you are entitled to your own.

 

[old Timer]

BMW motorcycles before being boxed up to be sent out to distributors and dealers are put on a 2 wheel Dyno and are run to the engine rev limiter in each gear and the readings are logged in to the VIN of each respective bike. Doesn't hurt the bike at all.

 

[Woodenfish]

I highly, highly doubt they run a brand new motorcycle to that speed. I think it just might be a remaining artifact from performing a full sweep of the instrument cluster in its initialization process. Perform a reset and don’t worry about it. Many new owners probably reset their initial readings just by accident and not fully noticing the data fully when playing around and looking at what the cluster offers.

 

[WRCLVR]

This is an interesting thread. Let's assume the test is just an electronic one for a minute, that tests the screens and gauges. For the 2024's , why in the blazes doesnt this catch the screen errors, weird codes and blank screen issues, across multiple Can Am lines both on and offroad?

And if it is an electronic one only ( which is what I'm believing) why would BRP release the bikes with un-erasable codes ( like U0155 ) for sale putting a strain on the dealer network, owners and goodwill?

Lastly why would any one release products they have electronically tested as faulty, with software missing ( ACP ) ?

I love my S2s's both of them. but BRP has got to improve their product quality and Quality Assurance /Quality Control. What they have right now is not a sustainable business model....

PS I have been asked if I recommend the BRP Can Am 2024 by several people..I recommend them due to the ride but with the caveat of the quality issues...2023 units or maybe 2025 when all the issues have truly worked out

 

[BajaRon]

This is an interesting thread. Let's assume the test is just an electronic one for a minute, that tests the screens and gauges. For the 2024's , why in the blazes doesnt this catch the screen errors, weird codes and blank screen issues, across multiple Can Am lines both on and offroad?

And if it is an electronic one only ( which is what I'm believing) why would BRP release the bikes with un-erasable codes ( like U0155 ) for sale putting a strain on the dealer network, owners and goodwill?

Lastly why would any one release products they have electronically tested as faulty, with software missing ( ACP ) ?

I love my S2s's both of them. but BRP has got to improve their product quality and Quality Assurance /Quality Control. What they have right now is not a sustainable business model....

Maybe it's used as a tag to verify that the test was completed. All speculation, of course. Only BRP knows what is really going on there.

 

[Cobranut]

It's likely a test run by the factory to check for NVH.

Most car manufacturers run each vehicle up to speed on rollers. Not necessarily a dyno testing for max power, but to verify smoothness and alignment.

I wouldn't worry about it at all.
An engine must run under load and at speed to properly break in. Don't beat the crap out of it, but babying it won't do it any favors either.

 

[old Timer]

After being invited to the BMW factory in Berlin and witnessing and being explained, it is a definite fact of before shipping out. I 100% expect that is also the case with Can Am. By the way that is also the case with the Stihl factory in in Virginia Beach, Va.