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[SpyderWolf]

I've been having the same problem with terrible heat on the right side since I bought my bike over 1 year ago. Now it is starting on the left side. By contrast, my boyfriend's Spyder has no heat on either side.

How can we tell if it is a bad Y gasket? What do we look for, or listen for? Unfortunately our local dealer's service guys are not helpful, so it
won't help to bring it to them.

Help? :gaah:

You can do a quick test, but you need to be very careful. While the Spyder is cold, put your hand under the plastic next to the right hand exhaust slip joint. Make sure you are not touching the pipe at all. Have someone else turn on the Spyder, and see if you feel any hot air blowing out onto your hand.

Again, you need to be very careful as it is going to get very hot quickly and you don't want to get burned by it.

 

[SpyderWolf]

Got it, I missed it the first time. According to internet sources the part has been replaced with #18291-286-306.

If you ask for the 18392-MAM-000 part number, the Honda parts person will get you exactly what you need. :thumbup:

GA Spyder Woman, what are the results of your call to the dealer?

 

[Capt John]

Got it, I missed it the first time. According to internet sources the part has been replaced with #18291-286-306.

Just changed mine a couple of weeks ago and bought part #18392-MAM-000

 

[GA Spyder Woman]

They checked the Y gaskets and said they were OK and exhaust was not leaking. He also said my cooling system doesn't use the kind of vent hose that needs to be replaced (we talked about it earlier in this thread regarding fires.)

So here's what we're going to try. I had a touring windshield and ferrings installed before I took my last scorching ride and they suggested removing the ferrings to allow better air flow. So he did that, tightened some bolts on the exhaust system, added more heat wrap along the length of the exhaust pipe, and on my ride home, I did not get scorched. (I was starting to get scorched on my ride to the dealership.)

The true test will be tomorrow, we have about a 200 mile ride planned to the North Carolina Mountains. I'll let you know how that goes!

Then come September, if it's really a weather related problem that should be solved. We'll see!

Also, the technician is attanding a three day BRP mechanics seminar next week and he'll brainstom to see if they come up with any other solutions.

 

[BajaRon]

They checked the Y gaskets and said they were OK and exhaust was not leaking. He also said my cooling system doesn't use the kind of vent hose that needs to be replaced (we talked about it earlier in this thread regarding fires.).

Somebody said the cooling system 'vent hose' is causing fires? I guess I messed that. I'll have to go back and look for that one. There is no way a cooling system is going to cause fires.

I'm wondering if they were referring to the gasoline fumes in the vent canister system. While I'm not sure this has been definitely determined to be the culprit in the few fires that occurred, I feel it is a good bet.

So here's what we're going to try. I had a touring windshield and ferrings installed before I took my last scorching ride and they suggested removing the ferrings to allow better air flow. So he did that, tightened some bolts on the exhaust system, added more heat wrap along the length of the exhaust pipe, and on my ride home, I did not get scorched. (I was starting to get scorched on my ride to the dealership.)

The true test will be tomorrow, we have about a 200 mile ride planned to the North Carolina Mountains. I'll let you know how that goes!

Then come September, if it's really a weather related problem that should be solved. We'll see!

Also, the technician is attanding a three day BRP mechanics seminar next week and he'll brainstom to see if they come up with any other solutions.

Have you removed the splash covers on the bottom of the engine compartment? That lets a LOT of heat go out the bottom and keeps it off your side panels (and legs.) You can always put them back on for winter riding if you want.

As for the heat wrap on the exhaust. It will always smoke at first. It is a curing process. It's best to wrap both pipes just back from the head (or as close as you can reasonably get) all the way back to where it goes under the fuel tank. Start the bike up with the side panels off and run it until it starts to smoke. Shut it off and let it cool for 5 minutes or so. Then repeat the process. It will take a little more heat to get it to smoke the 2nd time. I suggest doing this twice, or 3 times if you have the time.

That gives the wrap a good cure and it will last a lot longer. If you just wrap it and blast off it will still cure but you'll need to replace it sooner.

 

[SpyderWolf]

They checked the Y gaskets and said they were OK and exhaust was not leaking. He also said my cooling system doesn't use the kind of vent hose that needs to be replaced (we talked about it earlier in this thread regarding fires.)

So here's what we're going to try. I had a touring windshield and ferrings installed before I took my last scorching ride and they suggested removing the ferrings to allow better air flow. So he did that, tightened some bolts on the exhaust system, added more heat wrap along the length of the exhaust pipe, and on my ride home, I did not get scorched. (I was starting to get scorched on my ride to the dealership.)

The true test will be tomorrow, we have about a 200 mile ride planned to the North Carolina Mountains. I'll let you know how that goes!

Then come September, if it's really a weather related problem that should be solved. We'll see!

Also, the technician is attanding a three day BRP mechanics seminar next week and he'll brainstom to see if they come up with any other solutions.

Sounds reasonable. I currently have the GIVI windscreen on my Spyder, but have been thinking about putting the BRP Sport Touring one back on for the rest of the summer. The GIVI is a great screen, but it definitely blocks more air than the BRP does. It almost defeats the point of wearing a mesh jacket when no air hits your upper torso.

Best of luck with it on the ryde tomorrow. You also reminded me that I still want to buy some exhaust wrap for our Spyders as well.

Ron caught the other thing I had a question about on the vent hose issue.

 

[RJB]

If the gaskets are leaking hot exhaust gas wouldn't there be a significant increase in sound?

 

[SpyderWolf]

If the gaskets are leaking hot exhaust gas wouldn't there be a significant increase in sound?

I thought the same thing, but with the Hindle on my Spdyer I did not really notice that big of a difference in noise when my right side gasket was half way gone. Perhaps others have noticed the change in sound more. :dontknow:

 

[BajaRon]

I thought the same thing, but with the Hindle on my Spdyer I did not really notice that big of a difference in noise when my right side gasket was half way gone. Perhaps others have noticed the change in sound more. :dontknow:

From what I've heard, most people are surprised that their gaskets are bad even if they have the stock exhaust. I think the more prevelent indication, other than additional heat, is popping on decel, not necessarily more noise.

Though popping on decel is not necessarily bad gaskets.

 

[bjt]

I thought the same thing, but with the Hindle on my Spdyer I did not really notice that big of a difference in noise when my right side gasket was half way gone. Perhaps others have noticed the change in sound more. :dontknow:

When my gaskets went bad, there was only a slight increase in noise level. Large increase in heat by the right thigh though.

 

[NancysToy]

Got it, I missed it the first time. According to internet sources the part has been replaced with #18291-286-306.

The number you cite is a copper compression gasket for the exhaust header to head joint. It does not replace 18392-MAM-000, which is listed (as of today) as a current part number. It replaces the previous 18291-286-000 part. The MAM number should be a good one for "Packing B, Muffler" for the GL1800 Goldwing.

 

[ataDude]

From what I've heard, most people are surprised that their gaskets are bad even if they have the stock exhaust....

That's because they gradually wear out over time and you get tend to get used to the increased noise as it occurs. I only discovered mine (the first time) when I went back to the Warrior exhaust (quiet) for a while.

 

[canam9]

welcome :ani29:

 

[BajaRon]

That's because they gradually wear out over time and you get tend to get used to the increased noise as it occurs. I only discovered mine (the first time) when I went back to the Warrior exhaust (quiet) for a while.

True, a "Boil the Frog" situation. I really liked that Warrior exhaust. Real good sound and very quiet.

I've got just short or 20K on my original gaskets and they still don't leak. Don't know why that is.

 

[AutumnCat]

Left side heat

I've been having heat on both sides - but, have noticed it more on the left.
It wasn't this bad at first.

We took about an hour ride & got stuck in some very slow moving traffic. I had to get off the bike and check my left leg - it felt like it was blistering.

So, no blisters - just very hot & red skin that hurt like a blister.

I finally called our dealer to ask if they thought this heat was normal. They told me to bring the Spyder in & they would see if the insulation was in place.

So - this coming Tuesday I am riding it over (supposed to be 92F that day - and almost an hour ride). He is going to take the panels off to check it out while I wait.
He also said he called BRP about this issue. They suggested wrapping the left side exhaust (& maybe the right) in some sort of mesh. It's not covered under warranty - but, sounds fairly cheap (like $10 for the parts - and then whatever labor would be...tech said it's simple to do).

Only thing - the mesh can rust. So, we have to be careful if we wash the bike & such to make sure we run the Spyder so the moisture will dry.

Anyone else ever hear about this mesh wrap? Any experience with it?
I'm going to mention the y gaskets when I get to the dealer, too - just to make sure all bases are covered.

 

[Degaman]

Dealer replaced the y gasket at the 9000 mile service (under warranty). Haven't mustered enough courage to wear shorts since the replacement, but spyder continues to run hot (never want to get caught in bumper to bumper traffic, as it will inevitably reach 7 bars and enter limp mode).

 

[boborgera]

If the gaskets are leaking hot exhaust gas wouldn't there be a significant increase in sound?

There is a increase in sound but it's a gradual increase, so you might not notice it right away,.
I didn't notice it till my Son came over to the house' and when i started the engine he asked me if i did something to make the Spyder sound louder.?:shocked:

 

[tajohn]

Just changed mine at 17,000 miles ...replaced both even though only the right( fuel canister) side was bad. used the GL 1800 gaskets.
Thanks to Wacky Dan for the great step by step post ...it made the job a breeze ! :2thumbs: