Higher octane

[mtbear]

I went to higher octane gas and now I am getting around 35mpg, that includes riding 75 on the highway. legal speed in Colorado. So whoever posted that a while back, it works, thanks.
mtbear

 

[ARtraveler]

I went to higher octane gas and now I am getting around 35mpg, that includes riding 75 on the highway. legal speed in Colorado. So whoever posted that a while back, it works, thanks.
mtbear

Thanks for the update on your 2012 RTS SE5 (I checked the profile to see what you were driving). That is very good mpg. :thumbup:

 

[Bob Denman]

:congrats: The BRP engineers knew what they were talking about! :clap: :thumbup:

 

[Magdave]

:congrats: The BRP engineers knew what they were talking about! :clap: :thumbup:

What? Since when? :shocked:

 

[Dgjason]

Checked my fuel mileage for the first time today. 27.7 2013 ST L. :dontknow:
Don't know if good or bad. Have about 1200 miles on :spyder2:. Always use highest octane.

 

[ARtraveler]

Checked my fuel mileage for the first time today. 27.7 2013 ST L. :dontknow:
Don't know if good or bad. Have about 1200 miles on :spyder2:.

30 - 31 mpg seems to be ballpark on most Rotax 998 powered machines.

WARNING, WARNING, WARNING: Your mileage may vary from the average. :roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:

 

[Bob Denman]

:agree: It's all in the wrists; your right one!

 

[robmorg]

I went to higher octane gas and now I am getting around 35mpg, that includes riding 75 on the highway. legal speed in Colorado. So whoever posted that a while back, it works, thanks.
mtbear

A lot of folks have posted that in the past. Also there have been quite a few who have posted that, for them, switching to a higher octane fuel made no difference in fuel economy. My own experience would seem to be in line with the second camp. I do use the higher octane, however, not because I get better mpg, but because I believe it is probably better for the engine. My Spyder just seems to run better with 93 octane.

 

[Bob Denman]

With my 998; I noticed a 2.5 mpg drop with 87 octane... :shocked:
With the 1330; there was NO drop in fuel economy, but the low-end torque of the bike suffered... :yikes:

So it's 93, for meeeee!

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

OCTANE USAGE

:gaah::dontknow:...If the Owner's manual says ...." MUST USE 91 OR 93 OR higher Octane fuel ".....Then you MUST use it.........However if the manual ( BRP ) says " RECOMMENDED OCTANE " then the the engine will run just fine 99.9 % of the time ( without activating the "knock" sensors) using 87 octane .....and that is what I ( and some enlightened others here use ).......My 2014 1300 ACE engine preforms quite satisfactorily and I'm averaging 40 MPG............Let the " flaming " begin...:roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:....Mikeguyver :thumbup:

 

[lwrydr]

Drop

With my 998; I noticed a 2.5 mpg drop with 87 octane... :shocked:
With the 1330; there was NO drop in fuel economy, but the low-end torque of the bike suffered... :yikes:

So it's 93, for meeeee!

Can't get 93 here so I get 92....getting a 1330 would be a really big drop in my pocket book since my RTL is only 1 yr old....

 

[littledeer]

gas ?

The highest octane I can get in our area is 91 nonoxygenated and that is what I run in my 1330. Do any of you know if running nonoxygenated fuel will harm anything long or short term on the motor? It runs great with this fuel and I am getting 39 mpgs with it but it is always on the back of my mind if I should use it.Thanks Jeff

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

NONOXYGENATED ??????

The highest octane I can get in our area is 91 nonoxygenated and that is what I run in my 1330? Do any of you know if running nonoxygenated fuel will harm anything long or short term on the motor? It runs great with this fuel and I am getting 39 mpgs with it but it is always on the back of my mind if I should use it.Thanks Jeff

:gaah::dontknow:....​Not familiar with that terminology........are you referring to Ethyl in the gas ?????..............Anything except Diesel or E85 will work just fine in the 1330............I use 87 octane with Ethyl and it runs great........Mikeguyver :thumbup:

 

[littledeer]

gas

:gaah::dontknow:....​Not familiar with that terminology........are you referring to Ethyl in the gas ?????..............Anything except Diesel or E85 will work just fine in the 1330............I use 87 octane with Ethyl and it runs great........Mikeguyver :thumbup:

No not eythl----We have 87 ethyl the 91 nonoxygenated is recomended for vintage vehicles. I collect vintage snowmobiles which are 2 cycle and if I do not use nonoxy in them they will fry the motor. I was told it is the same as or a replacement for the leaded gas we used to get years ago. Any info on nonoxy would be appreciated from any gas experts out there. Thanks Blueknight Jeff

 

[jcthorne]

:gaah::dontknow:...If the Owner's manual says ...." MUST USE 91 OR 93 OR higher Octane fuel ".....Then you MUST use it.........However if the manual ( BRP ) says " RECOMMENDED OCTANE " then the the engine will run just fine 99.9 % of the time ( without activating the "knock" sensors) using 87 octane .....and that is what I ( and some enlightened others here use ).......My 2014 1300 ACE engine preforms quite satisfactorily and I'm averaging 40 MPG............Let the " flaming " begin...:roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:....Mikeguyver :thumbup:

Except the label on the bike says that 91 octane is required. Not recommended, required. The phrase in the owners manual is a reprint of the 2010 RT manual that has never been updated for printing. The engine emissions label ON THE BIKE takes precedence. Of course you can choose to ignore what ever you wish and pretend to know better than the engine designers what runs best in the engine and why.

 

[Bob Denman]

You're just beating your head against the wall... :banghead:
Mike's not gonna pay for the octane that his bike should have... :gaah:

 

[Woodsrider]

love octane threads. My best mpgs are on 87 non-ethanol, and the performance is strong with that. I experimented around a little between the 93 non-ethanol and 87 non-ethanol, and 3 tanks of each on the same commute showed almost no difference in mpg, and it's a dollar a gallon diff at the pump.

I was running just the 93 non-ethanol and damn the price, but decided to experiment.

Yes a total of 6 tanks is hardly scientific, but it works. My daily commute is a tank so it's easy to run these.

If I mess up and can't get the 87 non-ethanol, I run 93 ethanol, mpgs seem to drop every time, but it's not huge.

The range mpgs recorded on of all of these fuels is 28 - 32, which is also well within what you'd expect for weather and traffic variances, so I can't really say if the 998 gives a flying foo what the fuel is.

I'm also very heavy on the throttle and the commute has quite a bit of superhighway so Spyder gets to use 5th gear.

 

[mtdoragary]

I went to higher octane gas and now I am getting around 35mpg, that includes riding 75 on the highway. legal speed in Colorado. So whoever posted that a while back, it works, thanks.
mtbear

That holds true for all computer controlled EFI engines. If it was designed for high octane and you run regular, it retards the ignition to compensate. Ignition retardation lowers efficiency - power and mileage! Our Corvette puts out a LOT more power on premium and gets better mileage too. Same holds for cetane numbers and diesel engines.

 

[robmorg]

... and BRP only recommends a certain type and weight oil, they don't say you are forbidden to use peanut oil, so it must be okay otherwise they would have a sticker on the dip stick saying you can't use it.

Roger,

Thanks! That's good to know. I have a whole barrel of peanut oil in my shed and I've been wondering what I can use it for. Now I know. :sour:

 

[Bob Denman]

...And it smells better than Canola Oil too! :thumbup: