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Help! Stranded in Alabama with frozen ignition.

The list of affected keys...

gain, this is just to help out. It seems some have received incorrect info. There are a lot of key tags on the list. If you lost or discarded of your key tag and your vin is on the list you still need to have it checked. Here is a list of the key tags that are affected. 1656 1750 1800 1900 2009 2163 2200

1657 1751 1801 1901 2010 2164 2202
1658 1752 1802 1902 2011 2165 2203
1659 1754 1803 1903 2013 2166 2204
1661 1755 1805 1905 2014 2167 2205
1662 1756 1806 1906 2015 2169 2206
1663 1758 1807 1907 2017 2170 2208
1665 1759 1890 1908 2018 2171 2209
1666 1760 1891 1909 2019 2173 2211
1667 1761 1892 1910 2020 2174 2212
1668 1762 1893 1912 2021 2175 2213
1669 1764 1894 1913 2023 2176 2214
1670 1765 1896 1914 2024 2177 2215
1671 1766 1897 1915 2025 2178 2217
1673 1768 1899 1917 2027 2180 2218
1674 1769 1918 2028 2181 2220
1676 1770 1920 2029 2182 2221
1677 1771 1921 2030 2183 2222
1772 1922 2031 2184 2223
1773 1923 2032 2185 2224
1774 1924 2033 2186 2226
1775 1926 2034 2187 2227
1777 1927 2036 2189 2229
1778 1929 2037 2190 2230
1780 1930 2039 2192 2231
1781 1931 2040 2193 2232
1782 1932 2041 2194 2233
1783 1933 2042 2195 2235
1784 1934 2043 2196 2236
1785 1936 2044 2198 2237
1787 2046 2199 2239
1788 2047 2240
1789 2048 2241
1791 2050 2242
1792 2051 2243
1793 2052 2244
1794 2053 2245
1795 2054 2246
1797 2056 2248
1798 2057 2249
2059 2251
2060 2252
2061
2062
2064
2065
2066



It appears that 1760 is on the list.
 
Bob Denman said:
Mike,
I'm pretty sure that the TSB was dealing with a mechanical issue with the switch. the "KEY" error (I think!) would seem to be more a case of the computer and the key not speaking quite the same language...

One probably has very little, to do with the other.
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That's correct Bob.

The 2014's have 2 different problems with the ignition and keys.

Problem one. Ignition switches with a certain series of key codes will get stuck and need to be replaced. The code is on the rubber tag that came with the keys.

Problem two. The spyder is unable to communicate with the transponder key. The DESS unit needs to be replaced.

They are two unrelated and separate problems with two different solutions. Over time they have been mixed up and confused. The result is people like the OP get lousy and confusing advice.
 
bruiser said:
You can disengage the brake by pulling the pin at the rear caliper. You have a DESS failure. The security sensor does not recognize you keys. Sensor must be replaced.
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What pin are you speaking of? There is no pin on my '14 Brembo brake. The cable is connected to the brake tensioner arm by an oblong loop that is swaged to the cable. The tension on the loop must be released by loosening the tension nut before it can be lifted off the tensioner arm. At least that's the way my brake is.
 
Bob Denman said:
The list of affected keys...

gain, this is just to help out. It seems some have received incorrect info. There are a lot of key tags on the list. If you lost or discarded of your key tag and your vin is on the list you still need to have it checked. Here is a list of the key tags that are affected. 1656 1750 1800 1900 2009 2163 2200

1657 1751 1801 1901 2010 2164 2202
1658 1752 1802 1902 2011 2165 2203
1659 1754 1803 1903 2013 2166 2204
1661 1755 1805 1905 2014 2167 2205
1662 1756 1806 1906 2015 2169 2206
1663 1758 1807 1907 2017 2170 2208
1665 1759 1890 1908 2018 2171 2209
1666 1760 1891 1909 2019 2173 2211
1667 1761 1892 1910 2020 2174 2212
1668 1762 1893 1912 2021 2175 2213
1669 1764 1894 1913 2023 2176 2214
1670 1765 1896 1914 2024 2177 2215
1671 1766 1897 1915 2025 2178 2217
1673 1768 1899 1917 2027 2180 2218
1674 1769 1918 2028 2181 2220
1676 1770 1920 2029 2182 2221
1677 1771 1921 2030 2183 2222
1772 1922 2031 2184 2223
1773 1923 2032 2185 2224
1774 1924 2033 2186 2226
1775 1926 2034 2187 2227
1777 1927 2036 2189 2229
1778 1929 2037 2190 2230
1780 1930 2039 2192 2231
1781 1931 2040 2193 2232
1782 1932 2041 2194 2233
1783 1933 2042 2195 2235
1784 1934 2043 2196 2236
1785 1936 2044 2198 2237
1787 2046 2199 2239
1788 2047 2240
1789 2048 2241
1791 2050 2242
1792 2051 2243
1793 2052 2244
1794 2053 2245
1795 2054 2246
1797 2056 2248
1798 2057 2249
2059 2251
2060 2252
2061
2062
2064
2065
2066



It appears that 1760 is on the list.
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Bob, Where can I find a complete list of " Key Tags #'s? Deanna
 
billybovine said:
That's correct Bob.

The 2014's have 2 different problems with the ignition and keys.

Problem one. Ignition switches with a certain series of key codes will get stuck and need to be replaced. The code is on the rubber tag that came with the keys.

Problem two. The spyder is unable to communicate with the transponder key. The DESS unit needs to be replaced.

They are two unrelated and separate problems with two different solutions. Over time they have been mixed up and confused. The result is people like the OP get lousy and confusing advice.
Click to expand...
Billy, The D.E.S.S. unit is under warranty I had the D.E.S.S unit replaced on my 14RT-SE6 last week. Also, the dealer had to reprogram the both sets of keys. Deanna
 
HI Dee,
Your dealer could bring it up for you. This list was posted back late in the Winter of 2014, when this issue popped up.
Your keys came with a small "tag with them. It's probably on the keyring that holds your spare key and sheath.
It'll have a four digit number on it. If it's on this list; you should have your dealer take action.
(This is completely unrelated to your recent warranty work...)
 
UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU READ

Bob Denman said:
Mike,
I'm pretty sure that the TSB was dealing with a mechanical issue with the switch. the "KEY" error (I think!) would seem to be more a case of the computer and the key not speaking quite the same language...

One probably has very little, to do with the other.
Click to expand...

Apparently you read my Post #15.................and as usual you didn't understand it ...........but that fact is not UNUSUAL, because you have extreme difficulty understanding anything I post.....:dontknow: :roflblack: :roflblack: :roflblack:..............Mike :thumbup:
 
Bob Denman said:
HI Dee,
Your dealer could bring it up for you. This list was posted back late in the Winter of 2014, when this issue popped up.
Your keys came with a small "tag with them. It's probably on the keyring that holds your spare key and sheath.
It'll have a four digit number on it. If it's on this list; you should have your dealer take action.
(This is completely unrelated to your recent warranty work...)
Click to expand...
Hi Bob, The next time I visit my dealer I will ask. Is this a separate problem? Should I wait ? Deanna
 
If you've had no problems with your ignition switch appearing to "jam"; I would say that it's not a critical issue. It'd be more just for your peace of mind! :D
If you can look up that number on the tag, and compare it to what I posted above; that'd give you a good idea of if your bike might be affected.
 
Bob Denman said:
If you've had no problems with your ignition switch appearing to "jam"; I would say that it's not a critical issue. It'd be more just for your peace of mind! :D
If you can look up that number on the tag, and compare it to what I posted above; that'd give you a good idea of if your bike might be affected.
Click to expand...

1760 was on the second list. :yes:
 
The service desk is telling me the VIN/key tag combination is NOT on the service bulletin. Right now they are pulling the switch out. They believe something is physically preventing the key from being fully inserted.
 
Cyclist922 said:
The service desk is telling me the VIN/key tag combination is NOT on the service bulletin. Right now they are pulling the switch out. They believe something is physically preventing the key from being fully inserted.
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See list on post #26. 1760 is there.
 
Cyclist922 said:
The service desk is telling me the VIN/key tag combination is NOT on the service bulletin. Right now they are pulling the switch out. They believe something is physically preventing the key from being fully inserted.
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My curiosity is killing me. How'd you get the parking brake released?
 
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