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Helmet Advice

Some have pointed out some very good considerations and advice, thanks for that.

I never said I wanted to go cheap but I don't feel that I need to drop 600 or so on a helmet right now and not like it. I was thinking maybe in the 200 to 300 range then maybe adding the Bluetooth. Is this not a realistic figure for a good helmet? :dontknow: I also do not want to purchase anything that won't give me good protection.

Like I said I live in a rural area, there's not a bike dealer in my town but I will be taking the Can-Am BRP training course next week and I'm sure they will have helmets there and then travel on over to Cycle Gear in Lawrenceville Ga to look at what they have. As far as I know my nearest Can-Am dealer is about 30 miles away in South Carolina. I am planning on looking there also.

Oh also my bike will be a Spyder RT Limited. I really like the 2020-2021 in Marsala and I also like the Petrol Blue...... Just more decisions. I also have my eye on a low mileage 2019 RT Limited in white.


As you can see helmet selection is very subjective. You wear a helmet for safety so I would research the ratings related to helmets then find helmets that meet the standard you support. You can speed your Cycle Gear visit by seeing what is actually available on their Lawrenceville website pick a few to start then let them know your coming so they will have them out for you to try. They can sell you the comm unit as well and install before you leave the store. There are good helmets in the $200-300 and there are crappy ones as well. I found Revzilla video reviews very helpful; especially when it comes to sizing for a particular brand.
 
You have seen many mentions about SHAPE. Also mentioned that one brand might be better on a rounder head, while another brand is better on a oval head. All very true, but you also need to be aware that all brands have several different models, too. Some of them are shaped a bit differently, so it's possible that ACME Engineering's Model 10 might fit "round", but their Model 15 might fit "oval".

Bottom line: Just because you tested the Model 10 and found a wonderful fit, but you like the colors of the Model 15 better, IT MIGHT NOT FIT. You HAVE to check the model and size that you are interested in.

A side note: As much as you might save by buying on-line, even supporting the sponsors of this forum, I feel it is common courtesy if you go to a store and try on their helmets, when you find one that you like, why not say "thank you for being here, I'll take this one"?

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I've got a Sena in my Shoei Neotech, and to be honest my far less expensive uClear (the base model is just $100, and you can move from helmet to helmet) is just as good and the service is much better.

I love my Neotech, but my wife's Shark (alto a modular) may be even better. Getting something basic for the moment and upgrading when you figure out how you ride is a wise idea.
 
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A side note: As much as you might save by buying on-line, even supporting the sponsors of this forum, I feel it is common courtesy if you go to a store and try on their helmets, when you find one that you like, why not say "thank you for being here, I'll take this one"?

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:agree: with the whole post, but I've really gotta agree with that bit there - if you don't support them (our sponsors AND the outlets that actually stock the things we want so you can try them on/check them out in person) then they won't be able to stay in business and we will ALL pay the costs eventually! :cus:

But going on from Steve's post, the thing that often surprises me is how many people won't wear one helmet cos 'it's not comfortable' or 'it feels too tight', but they then go and buy a helmet that's simply too loose on their bollard or maybe even SO ill-fitting all over that it's downright dangerous & probably WORSE than wearing nothing at all as far as 'protecting the wearer from head & neck' injuries are concerned! :shocked: How many youtube vids have you seen where a motorcyclist has hit the deck after coming off & their helmet has gone flying?? :yikes: That shouldn't EVER happen if their helmet fitted properly & was securely fastened! :banghead:

Now I know that some helmets/helmet liners can cause 'hot spots' or be so tight in some areas that you can only wear them for a few minutes before developing a blinding headache, and you don't/shouldn't need to go quite that tight; but seriously people, your helmet SHOULD fit pretty snugly - in fact, it should be juuust leaning towards 'uncomfortably tight' all over when you try it on new! nojoke . The pads & liner WILL 'bed in' a bit & mold to your face & head a little thru use, and they should be fairly 'snug' if not actually just on 'tight' evenly everywhere when they do, just not too tight anywhere, or they can't and won't do their job of protecting your cranium from injuries!! And if you put the helmet on, do it up properly, and then if either shaking your head from side to side/up & down or grabbing the helmet rim & trying to pull it off (especially by lifting the back/bottom on the nape of your neck & pulling it up/forwards over the top of your head) moves the helmet anything much at all, then that helmet is of a questionable fit & might just break your neck &/or skull if you hit the deck wearing it! Seen it happen, cleaned up the mess, never want to have to do either again! :gaah:

So PLEASE, make sure you don't fall into the trap of searching out a helmet that's sooo comfortable a fit on your head that it's just not up to doing its job properly - your helmet NEEDS to be a little tight to fit properly, especially when it's new - but it shouldn't give you pressure sores or hot spots. :thumbup:

Just sayin'... ;)
 
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We tried something new with our last new helmets (Bell Mag 9/Sena). They were uncomfortably tight for both of us at first. We test wore them in the evening while watching TV. First night one hour, then over the next three nights or so, increased the wear time to two hours.

That helped a lot. The tightness is still there, but the "hurt" areas are gone. The padding has now shaped to us very nicely. The Bells are still working great after almost a year.
 
Great debate topic. Should we tell the new member about engine oil to use in his Spyder?
I have had many many helmets over the decades of riding. I just stick to the brand name helmets, Shoei,Bell,HJC,AGV,etc. because of their research and testing on the helmets. Lately, I found that HJC makes the best helmets for the money you spend. Just my 2cents.
Cheers!
 
Fit and function are important but safety comes first. Do your research on helmet design construction and safety testing. You'll be surprised at the actual results of safety testing. For just a start, the chin is most commonly the first contact with a solid object and then it goes on from there. Also, take a gander at European designs and standards. They do some things a little differently than we do here in the US. But it's all good info for choosing a brain bucket.
 
I like my HJC mod from Revzilla with Sena 10c mounted on it.Wife has her Sena mod with built in comm that came from Motorcycle Dave .Having a drop down visor on a modular helmet is great for people who wear glasses.
 
Fit and function are important but safety comes first. Do your research on helmet design construction and safety testing. You'll be surprised at the actual results of safety testing. For just a start, the chin is most commonly the first contact with a solid object and then it goes on from there. Also, take a gander at European designs and standards. They do some things a little differently than we do here in the US. But it's all good info for choosing a brain bucket.

Politely need to disagree. Albeit, with safety and function being extremely important, you'll get neither if the helmet fits poorly and is not used. Who wants to ride with a uncomfortable helmet?
 
Check with Motorcycle Dave.

He is selling the Sena modular helmet with the bluetooth comunicator build in from the factory and the price is about what just the comuniator would normaly cost. It is quite a nice modular helmet also.

I agree. We have the Sena Outrush helmets from Dave, and it is by far the most comfortable helmet I have ever worn. My last helmet, a Bell hurt the top of my head and gave me headaches. I couldn't wear it for more than an hour. Not so with the outrush. and the bonus is that the Bluetooth is built right into the helmet. Pairs easily with a phone, intercom works well, and the sound quality from the built in speakers is very good. Dave's price for this helmet is a bargain.
 
Politely need to disagree. Albeit, with safety and function being extremely important, you'll get neither if the helmet fits poorly and is not used. Who wants to ride with a uncomfortable helmet?

I agree with your disagreement! Helmet SHAPE must match your head or nothing else matters. A $600 lid that doesn't fit is worthless if you can't wear it more than 30 minutes w/o pain. Weight & features come after fit.
 
Thanks to everyone who has replied, lots of good info here.

I am considering the helmet from Motorcycle Dave (Sena Outrush) along with a couple of others.
The LS2 Valiant II in Jeans Titanium looks amazing if it will fit correctly.

Also I'm sure once I find out more what shape/fit I prefer that it will narrow the field a little.

As for what oil to use ............ let's save that one for another thread. :cheers:
 
Politely need to disagree. Albeit, with safety and function being extremely important, you'll get neither if the helmet fits poorly and is not used. Who wants to ride with a uncomfortable helmet?

Sorry, apparently I didn't make my point clear enough. In doing your D & D's in selecting a motorcycle helmet with respect to safety, you'll find that a proper fit is very high on the priorities when making choices. There are a number of issues to consider, one of them is a proper fit. Sorry that I miss lead you.
 
Sorry, apparently I didn't make my point clear enough. In doing your D & D's in selecting a motorcycle helmet with respect to safety, you'll find that a proper fit is very high on the priorities when making choices. There are a number of issues to consider, one of them is a proper fit. Sorry that I miss lead you.

Na.....your post wasn’t misleading, 2dogs. I understood exactly what you meant by “Fit and function are important, but safety comes first”. :thumbup: Written English is always interpreted according an individual’s prejudices and preferences. Often, a disagreement is between two people who are actually in “violent agreement” after reading the same comment :ohyea: :dontknow:

Pete
 
If you have a cheap head, buy a cheap helmet !

As I stated before, I did not say I wanted a "cheap" helmet. I also asked could not one be purchased for 200 to 300 dollars.

I started this post looking for advice and wisdom from more experienced riders. What's posted here could be taken a couple of ways and also prevent new members from asking serious questions.

In no way does your response give any helpful information to help myself or anyone else make a educated decision on the purchase of a helmet.
 
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As I stated before, I dig not say I wanted a "cheap" helmet. I also asked could not one be purchased for 200 to 300 dollars.

I started this post looking for advice and wisdom from more experienced riders. What's posted here could be taken a couple of ways and also prevent new members from asking serious questions.

In no way does your response give any helpful information to help myself or anyone else make a educated decision on the purchase of a helmet.


Hang in there K80. I posted a warning of sorts in post #13 about what to expect.

"I wont get into a safety discussion, or a price discussion...there are standard answers that pop up, and I know this is not what you were asking. There are better helmets out there, but I am happy with our choices. Riding since 1960's and owned to many bikes to remember the number. I can say I have been there and done that though".

You are going to run into a few who skirt the intent, make jokes, and sometimes come off the wrong way.
 
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Hang in there K80. I posted a warning of sorts in post #13 about what to expect.

"I wont get into a safety discussion, or a price discussion...there are standard answers that pop up, and I know this is not what you were asking. There are better helmets out there, but I am happy with our choices. Riding since 1960's and owned to many bikes to remember the number. I can say I have been there and done that though".

You are going to run into a few who skirt the intent, make jokes, and sometimes come off the wrong way.

I understand, Thanks
 
A serious question please.

As I understand it the helmet must have the DOT stamp on the back of it, is this correct? In researching a few (LS2 Valiant II Jeans Titanium) I find that it has no such marking on it. I actually contacted one vender that sent me this response,

"Hi David, Please note this helmet is EEC 22-05 approved for use in the EU and UK it is not DOT certified"

To bad as I really liked this helmet. I also contacted LS2 USA but have not heard back from them.
 
A serious question please.

As I understand it the helmet must have the DOT stamp on the back of it, is this correct? In researching a few (LS2 Valiant II Jeans Titanium) I find that it has no such marking on it. I actually contacted one vender that sent me this response,

"Hi David, Please note this helmet is EEC 22-05 approved for use in the EU and UK it is not DOT certified"

To bad as I really liked this helmet. I also contacted LS2 USA but have not heard back from them.


I think to sell in the US they have to be DOT rated and if its ECE as well all the better.
 
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