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It's hard to tell from the pic but the left side switch housing cable is on the backside of the riser just like the right side.
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Heli bars vs Nomagic risers
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It's hard to tell from the pic but the left side switch housing cable is on the backside of the riser just like the right side.
Tom in NM
New member
a tough question . . . .
Any of the risers will make a profound and immediate change in the ergonomics of riding a Spyder. My seating position and posture are changed radically. Steering effort and geometry is also completely different. This one change will made it seem that my footpegs, mirrors, seat and windshield are changed. Since these are ergonomic changes - the changes will be variable and personal - everyBody is different.
Brian (BJT) has posted that all the riser products have their pluses and minuses. Since they are the most common, I did get to feel how the NMN risers felt on a Spyder ( thanks, Repops!) before I decided to order. Like you, I wish I could have seen the other options in person.
I am (still) finishing my install of the 4" NoMagic risers on my SE5. One thing I can extrapolate to any of the risers is cable management will be the major pain of the installation. There seems to be a lot of variability in how the dealers route the cables when they assemble the Spyders. The cables and wiring probably all take the specified paths, but where the ties are, how tight the ties are, the order that the cables are layered and the order that they are connected (while all these are small differences) can make the installation a profanity laden experience. If I had it to do over again, I would do the 3" risers - the 4" seem to be right at the edge of cable tolerances. While they work, I know I don't have all the adjustment options that the 3" would allow. But I am still working on them. A wild guess is that the install on a SM5 would be easier than the SE5, but that is just a guess. The fit is OK and the finish is good. I (so far) am not crazy about how the workable cable routes looks on my SE5, but I think that is something I will adjust to and ignore.
The cable length issue is one that any riser will face and it seems to vary from Spyder to Spyder.
For me, I didn't like the look (especially the dislocated ignition) of the Heli Bars. Price didn't help either. But, that is my taste and wallet talking.
I think QuadManiac has a good point - the Spyder City 3" risers have a lot going for them. The install looks to be easy and the original Spyder looks are retained. What they lose is the adjustability factor, but I think he is right about the best bang for the buck. They come the closest to the BRP option, but avoid the difficult costly install. If I can't get the 4" NMN right, I will give these a shot.
My bottom line opinion is that all of them are quality products that will change the fundamental feel of your Spyder. Any 3" change will probably have an easier install and fewer cable issues. The Spyder City risers will do the job while keeping your wallet and the Spyder's looks intact. The NMN risers will give you the most adjustability.
If you still cannot decide, try and meet with other riders in your area ( or just passing through ) so you can see and feel them in person. ( Hey! this is a family site, keep your mind and hands on the risers! )
Tom
Any of the risers will make a profound and immediate change in the ergonomics of riding a Spyder. My seating position and posture are changed radically. Steering effort and geometry is also completely different. This one change will made it seem that my footpegs, mirrors, seat and windshield are changed. Since these are ergonomic changes - the changes will be variable and personal - everyBody is different.
Brian (BJT) has posted that all the riser products have their pluses and minuses. Since they are the most common, I did get to feel how the NMN risers felt on a Spyder ( thanks, Repops!) before I decided to order. Like you, I wish I could have seen the other options in person.
I am (still) finishing my install of the 4" NoMagic risers on my SE5. One thing I can extrapolate to any of the risers is cable management will be the major pain of the installation. There seems to be a lot of variability in how the dealers route the cables when they assemble the Spyders. The cables and wiring probably all take the specified paths, but where the ties are, how tight the ties are, the order that the cables are layered and the order that they are connected (while all these are small differences) can make the installation a profanity laden experience. If I had it to do over again, I would do the 3" risers - the 4" seem to be right at the edge of cable tolerances. While they work, I know I don't have all the adjustment options that the 3" would allow. But I am still working on them. A wild guess is that the install on a SM5 would be easier than the SE5, but that is just a guess. The fit is OK and the finish is good. I (so far) am not crazy about how the workable cable routes looks on my SE5, but I think that is something I will adjust to and ignore.
The cable length issue is one that any riser will face and it seems to vary from Spyder to Spyder.
For me, I didn't like the look (especially the dislocated ignition) of the Heli Bars. Price didn't help either. But, that is my taste and wallet talking.
I think QuadManiac has a good point - the Spyder City 3" risers have a lot going for them. The install looks to be easy and the original Spyder looks are retained. What they lose is the adjustability factor, but I think he is right about the best bang for the buck. They come the closest to the BRP option, but avoid the difficult costly install. If I can't get the 4" NMN right, I will give these a shot.
My bottom line opinion is that all of them are quality products that will change the fundamental feel of your Spyder. Any 3" change will probably have an easier install and fewer cable issues. The Spyder City risers will do the job while keeping your wallet and the Spyder's looks intact. The NMN risers will give you the most adjustability.
If you still cannot decide, try and meet with other riders in your area ( or just passing through ) so you can see and feel them in person. ( Hey! this is a family site, keep your mind and hands on the risers! )
Tom
FANG
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Will let you know Saturday - my opinion on the risers - I have the 1" BRP riser and Friday Night I am installing the NMN 3" risers 
hyea:. I will give you my feedback - late Friday night after I ryde FANG back from CAPTJOHN's house (doing the install there). Of course if I am really comfortable I may not get off the :spyder2: - I may just keep ryding all night. After all what's a little warm up for our Ryde to the Casino in Biloxi, MS the next day.
Gosh I wish it were Friday ...
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hyea:. I will give you my feedback - late Friday night after I ryde FANG back from CAPTJOHN's house (doing the install there). Of course if I am really comfortable I may not get off the :spyder2: - I may just keep ryding all night. After all what's a little warm up for our Ryde to the Casino in Biloxi, MS the next day. Gosh I wish it were Friday ...
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QuadManiac
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ozzie
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question about nmn riser
Are the riser’s made for shorter people??(is that the propose of them) I’m 6’4” and don’t have any complaints about the stock bars, except on rides over 2 hours. Do any taller people have the 4” nmn risers? How do you like them? Does the spyder corner any differently? Seems like you wouldn’t be able to lean into it as much. I’m a pretty aggressive ryder and would hate to loose speed on corners.
Are the riser’s made for shorter people??(is that the propose of them) I’m 6’4” and don’t have any complaints about the stock bars, except on rides over 2 hours. Do any taller people have the 4” nmn risers? How do you like them? Does the spyder corner any differently? Seems like you wouldn’t be able to lean into it as much. I’m a pretty aggressive ryder and would hate to loose speed on corners.
bjt
Very Helpful Member
I'm 6'4" and I have the NMN risers. I also thought I didn't need them. I did not have any problems going on longer than two hour rides. The stock bar position with the BRP 1" riser was just fine for me. But, after riding the wife's Spyder with a set of the risers, I realized how much better they made the handling of the Spyder. Her Spyder isn't even really set up for me to ride comfortably (bars pulled back, seat close to the bars) but I could tell the difference in handling immediately. I soon after got my own risers and installed them more straight up than pulled back and I just love them. You can still lean over the bars or hang off the seat in corners just as you do without the risers.
Tom in NM
New member
I am short . . .
I am short, 5'7", and have no problems with the stock bars either. I often am pretty aggressive on corners and have no problems steering or with my hands, arms, shoulders or back on any of the rides I have taken.
But, on rides over 2 hours, my upper legs/pelvis start to bother me. Being short, I sit too far forward in the seat and the bike is pushing my knees out at an odd angle. After 55, things don't stretch as well as they did. When I got on a Spyder with risers, I thought they had some how narrowed the seat. What a difference.
Tom
I am short, 5'7", and have no problems with the stock bars either. I often am pretty aggressive on corners and have no problems steering or with my hands, arms, shoulders or back on any of the rides I have taken.
But, on rides over 2 hours, my upper legs/pelvis start to bother me. Being short, I sit too far forward in the seat and the bike is pushing my knees out at an odd angle. After 55, things don't stretch as well as they did. When I got on a Spyder with risers, I thought they had some how narrowed the seat. What a difference.
Tom
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