I saw this on Adventure Rider:
https://www.advrider.com/harley-davidson-hit-with-287m-damages-award-in-trike-crash/
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https://www.advrider.com/harley-davidson-hit-with-287m-damages-award-in-trike-crash/
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HD Trike Lawsuit
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ARtraveler
R.I.P. Dwayne
Interesting. :bowdown:
StalkyTracker
Member
Very interesting.
shannonmarie
New member
I considered an HD trike but talking to folks who had one steered me away from it. They said it felt really tippy in curves. I grew up with a Honda 200X ATC (3-wheeler) and I rolled that thing over on its side all the time. Granted I was 14 and flying through fields and riding a little crazy. But it made me think twice about a one-in-front trike. Reading that article makes me glad I got the Spyder instead.
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BajaRon
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This is a different situation, of course. But a conventional trike has always had a serious design flaw when considering momentum and the forces involved in turning the vehicle. This design is nowhere near as safe or stable as a 2 front wheel trike. It's simply a matter of physics.
JohnRuckus
Member
Geesh. That's a sad story. The $ will change things eventually, but they still won't return life. 
On a lighter note... $~37K back then... Spyders didn't cross $30K until after the S2S appeared.
On a lighter note... $~37K back then... Spyders didn't cross $30K until after the S2S appeared.
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TheMariner
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I had a mate who had a single front wheel trike using a conventional motorcycle tyre up front & it demolished front tyres at an alarming rate.
A close friend and one of his friends purchased HD trikes and both had suffered mechanical faults with their machines. They each sued HD under the "Lemon Law." It had to do with an engine/transmission oil transfer issue. HD conceded and offered two options to both of them. One option was a refund and retaking ownership with a large deduction for miles on the speedometer. The other was a cash reimbursement and extended warranty on the faulty part. My friend kept his trike and his friend turned his trike over to HD. My friend sold his trike to a private party because the issue was never solved mechanically. I'm wondering who has the better/worst reputation, BRP or HD?
Peteoz
Well-known member
Geesh. That's a sad story. The $ will change things eventually, but they still won't return life.
On a lighter note... $~37K back then... Spyders didn't cross $30K until after the S2S appeared.
At the end of the article, it says that HD are challenging the determination, John. They claim that both of the accidents were caused by rider ineptitude, not by any kind of equipment failing. The claimants have not received (and may not receive) any compensation.
Pete
pegasus1300
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As I read the description of both crashes it seems as if the traction control/ABS system malfunctioned causing one wheel to brake and swerve the trike to the one side. This is not a function of one wheel forward trikes, and our Spyders or your family car will do the same thing under the same circumstances. Yes, conventional trikes are hard on front tires, but Spyders are hard on rear tires. Stronger, beefier tires are available for trikes just as better rear tires are available for Spyders. I rode a conventional trike for 4 years and 45,000 miles, pushing it hard in the corners. It was more work than my Spyder is, but it was always stable, no tippy feeling, or pulling to one side, but then I didn't have ABS brakes/Traction Control either, or a rake kit.
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BajaRon
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You're right, of course. This complaint has nothing to do with the stability (or instability) of a conventional trike. If you're going to lock up a single wheel in any vehicle, it's going to put you off your line.
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TheMariner
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My comment was an observation of the tyre wear caused by the front wheel steering dynamics of a 1+2 trike. Spyders are only hard on rear OEM Kenda tyres because they are a poor tyre... not due to any suspension dynamics.
bikerbillone
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With all the 'other problems' HD has, this is not good news.
pegasus1300
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And you are right of course. My only point was that both situations can be remedied with a change in tires.
