Have you seen a wheel leaning like this on an F3? ? ?

[SERGIU]

Hello guys,

I noticed after I dismount that the rear fender, my rear wheel is not vertical as it should be. I measured it and I was not happy with the result. The tire wear on left side was a clue and I changed it to a TOYO TR1.

I refuse to even think that the frame is bent and I need to fix it. Is there any Spyder like this? Do you have pics?

Regards,

Sergiu

 

[Cobwebs]

I'm pretty sure your going to have the only one like that Sergiu. Whats the history of the bike, have you run over an anvil lately?

 

[Mikey]

opcorn: Just for kicks put a small square on the bolt head and the level on the to see if the bolt is out of plumb with the tire!! Then on a flat surface measure the tips of your frame to the floor on both sides!

 

[Peter Aawen]

It could have something to do with worn swing arm bushes &/or not 'square' rear wheel mounting.... :banghead: Orrr, have you or anyone you're aware of done anything to the belt tension of late - or ever?? :dontknow:

Ps: IIRC, there was another Spyder that had a 'tilted' rear wheel like that (I reckon it might've been the same way too?? :dontknow: ) - I believe it was the 'swing arm bush' mount point on the frame that was 'worn' oval on the left, letting (causing??) the whole swing arm & wheel assembly to move & tilt that way. :sour:

Try putting "swing arm" (with the quotation marks ) into the Search Field (top Right of the page); tick the 'Search Titles Only' box in the drop down list below it; & then submit the search - the thread title should help you find the one you're after or any you might want to read. :thumbup:

Good Luck! :cheers:

 

[Gwolf]

Is the surface the bike is parked on perfectly level, front and back?

Just from the shadows and light reflection, the parking surface appears to be rough finished at best.

Take the bike to a poured and smooth finished surface and do the level checks again. Find a surface where you can lay a 4 foot spirit level and get a dead center bubble in a full circle, where the front tires sit, and where the rear tires sit.

Road surfaces and sidewalks are rarely level. If they were level when poured or paved, the freeze buckling and settling would soon have them far from it.

 

[SERGIU]

I tried many surfaces but is the same, I have a garage with perfect levels.

 

[SERGIU]

Last year I hit something on the road, a bump...with left wheel.

 

[Peter Aawen]

Last year I hit something on the road, a bump...with left wheel.

So is it the FRONT suspension that's damaged? :shocked: Surely not, cos wouldn't that leave the body, frame, and rear tire all on the same (leaning left) angle?? But yours looks like just the rear wheel is leaning, and not the body.proper... :dontknow:

 

[BajaRon]

It is hard to tell from the picture that the rear wheel is tilted. It may be more obvious in person. But you need to check more places before assuming that it is the rear wheel.

Of course, you need to be absolutely sure that the surface your Spyder is sitting on is level side-to-side. You have to start there. Then you need to check level on other surfaces to be sure it isn't suspension or other factors giving you this off level at the rear wheel. I am not sure which surfaces you can trust to do this for you. Maybe the main backbone and sub-frame members. They are flat surfaces which should be a good start. If they bubble out level, that will be valuable information.

If the tilt is in the rear wheel. Then I would say you either have a bent frame or bent swingarm. The swingarm is quite rugged, whereas the the Spyder frame is a bit fragile. But without isolating where the 'Bend' is. You will not know which component or components are giving you this issue.

 

[redrazor]

I tried many surfaces but is the same, I have a garage with perfect levels.

:read: You did notice and photo the worn tread on the right side of the tire. The wheel is most defiantly leaning to the right! Lots of possibilities opcorn:

 

[Des]

Probably a cracked frame common fault with F3. Des

 

[fredgal]

Hey the belt is made in the USA, dont see much with that on it..:dg1:

 

[safecracker]

I noticed you checking against the rear pully. Did you try a check on the right side of the tire instead? Bruce

 

[Bfromla]

Agree hard to tell from pics, hopefully optical illusion because of the license plate. The level bubble is good try but depends on other factors. Oddly don’t see increased wear on tire or belt from pics. Guaranteed indicators. How does it ryde? Feel like butt end doing something wrong? :dontknow: :dontknow: Suggest taking Measurements from either side from axle to swing arm pivot; pivot to something in line along frame, foot peg or similar. Laser alignment available? Additionally with rear tire off the ground, you could rotate the tire & watch for any change in the gap between it & the swing arm. In this, the hitch took the damage, maybe also some to bearings, but had a second incident & made it hard to determine.

 

[BajaRon]

Thinking about this and would like to see the same bubble reading from the front pulley. If they are different, then you definitely have an issue at the rear wheel. The front and rear pulleys should bubble out identically.

 

[Snoking1127]

Rotated OP photo. Something is really wrong with his machine.

 

[CloverHillCrawler]

Bent swing arm or something is missing after the fender delete that is making the rear wheel go all cockeyed.

 

[redrazor]

Agree hard to tell from pics, hopefully optical illusion because of the license plate. The level bubble is good try but depends on other factors. Oddly don’t see increased wear on tire or belt from pics. Guaranteed indicators. How does it ryde? Feel like butt end doing something wrong? :dontknow: :dontknow: Suggest taking Measurements from either side from axle to swing arm pivot; pivot to something in line along frame, foot peg or similar. Laser alignment available? Additionally with rear tire off the ground, you could rotate the tire & watch for any change in the gap between it & the swing arm. In this, the hitch took the damage, maybe also some to bearings, but had a second incident & made it hard to determine.

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:lecturef_smilie: There is Definitely increased wear on the far right side of the tire tread! opcorn:

 

[Peter Aawen]

:lecturef_smilie: There is Definitely increased wear on the far right side of the tire tread! opcorn:

But in the first post of this thread, Sergiu tells us that's a new TOYO TR1 tire..... :shocked:

Hello guys,

I noticed after I dismount that the rear fender, my rear wheel is not vertical as it should be. I measured it and I was not happy with the result. The tire wear on left side was a clue and I changed it to a TOYO TR1.

I refuse to even think that the frame is bent and I need to fix it. Is there any Spyder like this? Do you have pics?

Regards,

Sergiu
.....

And it's an asymmetrical tire too, so that'll make it even harder to detect any 'abnormal wear' by eye/viewing a pic right now - in fact, if the tire's done less than about 2000 miles, detecting ANY ABNORMAL WEAR with anything but some fairly sensitive measuring tools is gonna be a bit of a problem.

 

[Peteoz]

But in the first post of this thread, Sergiu tells us that's a new TOYO TR1 tire..... :shocked:

And it's an asymmetrical tire too, so that'll make it even harder to detect any 'abnormal wear' by eye/viewing a pic right now - in fact, if the tire's done less than about 2000 miles, detecting ANY ABNORMAL WEAR with anything but some fairly sensitive measuring tools is gonna be a bit of a problem.

Ahhhhhh. Thanks for that, Peter. I could not see the signs of wear on the right that Redrazor mentioned. What are you seeing that I am missing, Redrazor?

Pete