joeythebarber
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I have a set of xentec HID lights .. I installed them and when I turn on my Spyder , the lights blink and the bike turns off .. Does anyone have a explanation??
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H7 xentec hid installation
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Lamonster
SpyderLovers Founder
Yes, this happens with some of the cheaper HID kits. It has something to do the the ballast sending a field out that kills the computer. If you can take them back and get these.
http://www.esicycleproducts.com/spyderheadfog.html
They have been tested on the Spyder.
http://www.esicycleproducts.com/spyderheadfog.html
They have been tested on the Spyder.
joeythebarber
New member
Thanx for the info ....
Sarge707
Active member
Not all of us , especially on a Military Retirement check , can afford $220 for lights.
I,m reading Silverstar Ultras have a good record for about $50 a pair. What # Bulb Silverstar Ultra would be appropriate for the :spyder2:???
Thanks!!!!!!!!
Firefly
Active member
Hey Sarge--- the silverstars don't put out ANY more light than the stock bulbs. Zero. Nada. Nill.
All they do is tint the bulbs so they have a bluish look -- they actually put out less light - but since your eyes are used to seeing yellowish lights you think they are brighter--- but they are not.
This has been talked about tons and tons out here. The only way to get more light out of your headlights is to go with an HID kit.
I bought a different brand for around $200 back when ESI/NMN first had theirs out for around $350. I'm good with electronics and was able to wire and make them work - so the $150 savings turned out okay.
But now the ESI ones are $225 - and remember they are plug and play-- also have a smaller ballast than mine - so the install is easier.
So the obvious way to go for more light would be the ESI units.
Don't waste your $$ on the sliverstars---- basic physics has shown they don't do squat.
bone crusher
Alignment Specialist
I'll make it easier than firefly. You'll pay 50.00 for the stars and they'll burn out in about a year...their life is very short...figure you'll have to replace them a lot...the HIDs will last for many, many years and you will get much more light from them.
My next mod is Evan's HIDs...I figure if I can have him explain in 5 year old language how to install them, then all will be fine.
As far as the 220 vs. 50.00 goes, don't be short-sighted. You'll end up spending far more on the H7 bulbs over time...read the reviews out there...
Does anyone know if there is a hid kit in the 4500k range, do not care about the blue tint, just want the most light output.
Thx
Thx
Firefly
Active member
Mine are in the 4500 range --- I would think ESI can get them for you. It's just a different bulb.
Small hands REALLY help during the install - regardless of whether you're doing regular bulbs or HID --- it's a tight fit to get your hands in there.
I use 4300 in my headlights and 5000 in my fogs and I'm very happy with them.
If you have a hard time locating a kit in that temp range, send me a PM and I'll tell you were I purchased mine.
i had xentec hid before my current set and had similar problem so i wired them from auxiliary power block, bypassing all sensors. another member here had the exact same set but his spyder ran fine using factory harness.
i have no idea why it did not cause any problems on his spyder...
if you got them from starrotors, send them an email and they will take them back. they take their ebay feedback very seriously.
i have no idea why it did not cause any problems on his spyder...
if you got them from starrotors, send them an email and they will take them back. they take their ebay feedback very seriously.
BLACK WIDOW
New member
HID LIGHTS
Do you know what the current draw is for the HID lights as compared to the stock bulbs? I have all the ESI light options and think I am maxed out on load; Since, if I run my fog lights my signal lights will do strange irregular blinks (at times) without the fogs on they are as steady as a rock.:dontknow:
Michael:doorag:
Do you know what the current draw is for the HID lights as compared to the stock bulbs? I have all the ESI light options and think I am maxed out on load; Since, if I run my fog lights my signal lights will do strange irregular blinks (at times) without the fogs on they are as steady as a rock.:dontknow:
Michael:doorag:
WackyDan
New member
According to Doc, they actually draw less once they are up and running. they do have a spike when first turned on like most any other lighting that uses a ballast. I'm going to them not only for the looks but also for some energy efficiency.
Magic Man
Registered User
The HIDs use 30 watts of power per unit the Spyders are known for week charging system esp at idle, and even weaker battries which if you have a low voltage will make the turn signals go fast/slow/fast/ slow and can give you fits
To know if this is the case try fully charging your battry on a tender then see how things work. If they work OK after a battry charge look at possiably....
1) Having your battery tested and or a new battery.
2) Taking longer higher speed rides to let the battery fully recharge.
3) Try not to do repeated starts and stops for no reason as the battery gets lower each time as it will not recharge from the start right away without you riding the bike.
4) Have a charging system test done to be sure it is up to full output.
5) Do like I do on all my bikes and keep them plugged into a battery tender when not riding them, even if only going to sit overnight. This is one of the best things you can do to extend your battery life, and to always have your bike be 100% and ready to go.
MM
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bjt
Very Helpful Member
We had a similar thing happening on dltang's Spyder with her blinkers. She has NMN HID headlights, mudflap lights, center stop light and triple play. Magic Man worked with us by sending a few different parts to see what was causing the erratic blinking in one blinker only. We ended up changing the connector for the center stop light, removing it from the triple play module and connecting direct to stock stop light wiring to get the blinkers to work properly. I think what he told me was that the Spyder canbus system has a pretty tight tolerance and some of these additions might push it just past the edge, causing the canbus to incorrectly think that there is a problem.
BLACK WIDOW
New member
Blinker
When mine goes into the "irregular blinker mode" it's everything on the blinker side that is irregular i.e. the mud flap lights, the BRP bag lights, front and rear signal lights also have triple play and double play. But, when I turn the fog lights off all clears up and back to normal. This also only seem to occur when I am setting at a red light with the signals on and everything else.
When mine goes into the "irregular blinker mode" it's everything on the blinker side that is irregular i.e. the mud flap lights, the BRP bag lights, front and rear signal lights also have triple play and double play. But, when I turn the fog lights off all clears up and back to normal. This also only seem to occur when I am setting at a red light with the signals on and everything else.
Firefly
Active member
Are your fog lights HID?
Are your headlights HID?
Perhaps double the HID's could cause too much drain - especially if your battery is on the weak side.
I don't have the fog HID's yet--- and if I do get them I won't turn them on until the bike is running.
bjt
Very Helpful Member
Yep. Same thing with hers. All lights associated with left blinker would blink at a faster rate. The right blinker worked normally. And she didn't have foglights. Come to think of it, I think we noticed that the left blinkers only blinked faster when the brake was applied (brake lights on).
BLACK WIDOW
New member
Lights
Head lights and fog lights are standard. Was getting ready to convert to HID's but may wait a while now.
Michael:doorag:
Head lights and fog lights are standard. Was getting ready to convert to HID's but may wait a while now.
Michael:doorag:
Trickie Dick
New member
Led lights?
Just wondering if LED driving light might be an option since they seem to pull considerabley fewer amps. I don't anything about this stuff. Just a question.:dontknow: Maybe something like these http://www.visionxusa.com/led/S1100/
Dick
Just wondering if LED driving light might be an option since they seem to pull considerabley fewer amps. I don't anything about this stuff. Just a question.:dontknow: Maybe something like these http://www.visionxusa.com/led/S1100/
Dick
Firefly
Active member
Now that I think of that --- mine does that too !
Only the left blinker --- and only when the brakes are applied. It started doing it right after I installed fender tip blinkers.
Not sure it does it all the time either. Installing bag lights, triple play, etc. have had no affect on it that I can recall. Will have to check it out this weekend.
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