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Group Riding Etiquette Do's & Don'ts
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Group Riding Methods
Heres a link to look at to get started:
http://www.msf-usa.org/downloads/group_ride.pdf
Have fun!
~Sandee~
Heres a link to look at to get started:
http://www.msf-usa.org/downloads/group_ride.pdf
Have fun!
~Sandee~
Here's another, more detailed, site:
http://www.southerncruisers.net/ridingrules.htm
~Sandee~
http://www.southerncruisers.net/ridingrules.htm
~Sandee~
the only thing I dislike about the southern c's is that they say its unsafe for3 wheelers to ride anywhere but in the rear of the group.
on the police rides here in Jacksonville fl trikes ride anywhere in the formation. if it wasn't safe the sheriff's office wouldn't allow it
no accidents on any of their runs
a former dissatified member of the sc's
just my 2 cents worth
later
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jaherbst
New member
Group Riding Hmmmm, best advice I can give is don't get to close to anybody not only for their sake but for yours. Ride sweep (last) if you can. Safest place for a newbie. Ride your own ride. ( an old Harley saying) If you can figure that out it could save your life. i.e. Don't do anything that you feel uncomfortable with, or that makes your pillion rider uneasy.
My personal recipe for a safe group ride.
Jack
My personal recipe for a safe group ride.
Jack
blacklightning
Well-known member
I don't know about any set rules, but I will say, that it is hard seeing around a trike and getting a visual to see if everyone is still there. Unfortunately I seem to end up being the leader since it seems like I know all the interesting places. I usually ask if the guys with 3 wheels would either ride in the rear, or be responsible for the bikes behind them.
Chupaca
New member
Few pointers...
Gather up and go over the route and signals. If possible have ryder in the middle with directions and last ryder (sweep) will help ryders with problems and will stay with them till solved makes the ryder in front of him the new sweep.
Ryde in a staggard formation when possible if not single file...arm up one finger pointing up.
Ryde with a three second spacing
If your seperated by a light find a safe curb to pull over to and allow the rest of the group to catch up.
If spacing is large and turning stay close to the corner so the following ryders can see you. Then move up and the one behind you stays.
Make sure all signaling is well in advance
When pulling into a parking area make sure you all go in to the rear allowing for all your ryder to get in. Don't pick the closest parking spot backing in and leaving the rest out in the street.
Remind everyone it is not a race..unless it is and then ya'll are justs nuts...:roflblack::roflblack:
Probably more but this will get you a good ryde....:thumbup:
Gather up and go over the route and signals. If possible have ryder in the middle with directions and last ryder (sweep) will help ryders with problems and will stay with them till solved makes the ryder in front of him the new sweep.
Ryde in a staggard formation when possible if not single file...arm up one finger pointing up.
Ryde with a three second spacing
If your seperated by a light find a safe curb to pull over to and allow the rest of the group to catch up.
If spacing is large and turning stay close to the corner so the following ryders can see you. Then move up and the one behind you stays.
Make sure all signaling is well in advance
When pulling into a parking area make sure you all go in to the rear allowing for all your ryder to get in. Don't pick the closest parking spot backing in and leaving the rest out in the street.
Remind everyone it is not a race..unless it is and then ya'll are justs nuts...:roflblack::roflblack:
Probably more but this will get you a good ryde....:thumbup:
Bfromla
Well-known member
:agree: & LEAVE DRAMA BEHIND:thumbup: make a Ride captain (gps guy) make sure everyone knows signals for debris & pit stops, if whole group is dpyders or trikes, singile file with good spacing (not much room to stagger)first group ride together, try short leg routes everyone knows, has ridden solo before, then venture off to more detailed routes. Communicate before ride, how they like to ride, what they don't (been around few would NOT pass a simi trailer:banghead
& you said several spyders:thumbup::firstplace: We want pics please.
Have a good & safe ryde:clap:
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ARtraveler
R.I.P. Dwayne
The above posters have you covered.
Ride safe, expect the unexpected. Stay in your comfort zone. The group is as strong as its weakest rider.
Ride safe, expect the unexpected. Stay in your comfort zone. The group is as strong as its weakest rider.
PatriotRider
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Can Learn from a Real World Accident; Fri Sept 18, 2015
As a leader in the Patriot Guard Riders, between missions was an individual's choice escort of the hearse with state police doing traffic control. What that means is the official mission involved members seeing the hearse off from the airport, and receiving it at the funeral home in another city. The procession left at 7pm, westward into the sun, with darkness before arrival. My Navy Pilot instincts prevented me from sanctioning riders joining the escort. Five riders decided to go, regardless.
So with extenuating circumstances, halfway while on the interstate, there was a terrible accident involving a Harley Trike in the left half of the left lane, and a Spyder riding staggered behind in the right side of the same lane.
Louis Sevin died at the scene and Rick Kline sustained life threatening injuries which he is recovering from. Both are/were my dear friends serving in the PGR.
State Police press release: "Louis Sevin Jr. of Slidell was traveling west along I-10 on his Can Am motorcycle when Richard Kline's Harley Davidson drifted to the right and hit the Can Am's front left tire, police said. The contact caused the Harley to veer to the left side of the road, and the Can Am to veer to the right. The crash occurred just before 7:30 p.m"
Upon review, it was unfortunate that they were in the formation like that. The two Harley trike rear wheels plus the two Spyder front wheels added together where quite a bit wider than a lane.
So, for future missions that involve me, I will put the 3 wheel bikes of any make in the same line, probably the far right, behind each other leaving the other line for 2 wheel bikes. If there is a problem and a bike ending up too fast or too slow, and is next to a 3 wheeler, it will not take up more than a lane's width.
As a leader in the Patriot Guard Riders, between missions was an individual's choice escort of the hearse with state police doing traffic control. What that means is the official mission involved members seeing the hearse off from the airport, and receiving it at the funeral home in another city. The procession left at 7pm, westward into the sun, with darkness before arrival. My Navy Pilot instincts prevented me from sanctioning riders joining the escort. Five riders decided to go, regardless.
So with extenuating circumstances, halfway while on the interstate, there was a terrible accident involving a Harley Trike in the left half of the left lane, and a Spyder riding staggered behind in the right side of the same lane.
Louis Sevin died at the scene and Rick Kline sustained life threatening injuries which he is recovering from. Both are/were my dear friends serving in the PGR.
State Police press release: "Louis Sevin Jr. of Slidell was traveling west along I-10 on his Can Am motorcycle when Richard Kline's Harley Davidson drifted to the right and hit the Can Am's front left tire, police said. The contact caused the Harley to veer to the left side of the road, and the Can Am to veer to the right. The crash occurred just before 7:30 p.m"
Upon review, it was unfortunate that they were in the formation like that. The two Harley trike rear wheels plus the two Spyder front wheels added together where quite a bit wider than a lane.
So, for future missions that involve me, I will put the 3 wheel bikes of any make in the same line, probably the far right, behind each other leaving the other line for 2 wheel bikes. If there is a problem and a bike ending up too fast or too slow, and is next to a 3 wheeler, it will not take up more than a lane's width.
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vided
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if the entire group is made up of spyders. where does the front start everyone cant be in the REAR. I haven't heard of any wrecks caused by a group of 3wheelers. many spyder clubs and riders very few wrecks
Bob Denman
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Devious56
New member
I'm probably going to be out of line, but, most, if not all of these answers deal with motorcycle group riding, which is something I didn't like doing when I was a motorcycle rider. And if you don't mind, I do have a couple of questions : If a trike is supposed to ride by it's self in a lane, how can a group ride staggered? And, why in the world would you ride close enough to someone that would allow them to drift into you. The crash incident that was talked about was terrible, but easily avoided. I guess my age has something to do with my outlook, I turned 76 this past July, and I've been riding since 1962. When toy rides here in Jacksonville became popular, a large group was 50 attendees, and there were very few incidents. Today, they have to limit the rides to groups of 700, and there are always problems; cars breaking into the formation because they got tires of waiting, people running back and forth in the group so they can ride with their buddies, all kinds of stupid stuff. Even the big events, bike weeks are out of hand with folks dying every year. The last bike week I attended pretty much ended my enjoyment as it seemed that most riders had no idea about motorcycle safety and just wanted to show off.
Common sense plays a big part in being successful, and consideration of the folks around you has something to do with it also. Down here in Florida, it's Biketoberfest time, so ride safe. If you are uncomfortable riding in a group, the go to the back and give yourself a little distance to avoid disaster. So down, it's not a race, enjoy the ride. I hope to see some of you at the get together at Spyder Comfort on Saturday, there's a free cook out that starts at 11:00am, and vendors are going to be available to spend your money, not to mention laser alignment being available by Mike Loescher, the guy who developed the system.
Catch you all later,
David
Common sense plays a big part in being successful, and consideration of the folks around you has something to do with it also. Down here in Florida, it's Biketoberfest time, so ride safe. If you are uncomfortable riding in a group, the go to the back and give yourself a little distance to avoid disaster. So down, it's not a race, enjoy the ride. I hope to see some of you at the get together at Spyder Comfort on Saturday, there's a free cook out that starts at 11:00am, and vendors are going to be available to spend your money, not to mention laser alignment being available by Mike Loescher, the guy who developed the system.
Catch you all later,
David
FieldTester
New member
Ride safe, expect the unexpected. Stay in your comfort zone. The group is as strong as its weakest rider.[/QUOTE]
Could not agree more. My wife Val and I (she being a very new rider) had our first group ride last Sunday. I, having owned a Harley for many years, have a tendency to ride hard and found it difficult to keep at a safe pace for her. Understandably being in a large group requires much more consideration of others abilities for which we need to keep in mind.
My two cents.
Could not agree more. My wife Val and I (she being a very new rider) had our first group ride last Sunday. I, having owned a Harley for many years, have a tendency to ride hard and found it difficult to keep at a safe pace for her. Understandably being in a large group requires much more consideration of others abilities for which we need to keep in mind.
My two cents.
blacklightning
Well-known member
I agree, that it is safer if the entire group is made up of 3 wheelers. But if there are 2 wheelers in the group, they will ride is staggered pattern. If that is the case, it is much harder to see everyone that is behind you if you have a spyder blocking the view. I like riding up front because it allows me to use my cruise control whenever possible. But I also cannot enjoy the scenery as much when trying to glance in the mirrors and keep track of everyone.
Pirate looks at --
New member
Pretty Good
Gene did a great job on this. We practice something called "bread crumbs". What this means is if the group is making a turn, and you can't see the bike behind you, you will make that turn but stay visible along the side of the road so when the trailing Ryders catch up they will know to make that turn as well. The group will never make a turn with out leaving somebody behind to help any stragglers find their way. If you are one of those stragglers you know if you don't see another Ryder, you know that the group has not turned.
Signals are very important. We practice hand signals as well as using the turn indicators. Go over all of the signals that you use before your Ryde in a group meeting. We always have a trained Road Captain lead our rydes, with another trained Road Captain as the sweep. If you group is large, I would suggest that you consider having two road captains and two sweeps. Have the groups leave 10 minutes apart and it makes it much easier to manage. This is especially true if you have a lot of lights to go through it will be much easier to keep the group together and safe.
We have a little experience with with this as we have 50 or so Club sponsored group rydes a year.
Gene did a great job on this. We practice something called "bread crumbs". What this means is if the group is making a turn, and you can't see the bike behind you, you will make that turn but stay visible along the side of the road so when the trailing Ryders catch up they will know to make that turn as well. The group will never make a turn with out leaving somebody behind to help any stragglers find their way. If you are one of those stragglers you know if you don't see another Ryder, you know that the group has not turned.
Signals are very important. We practice hand signals as well as using the turn indicators. Go over all of the signals that you use before your Ryde in a group meeting. We always have a trained Road Captain lead our rydes, with another trained Road Captain as the sweep. If you group is large, I would suggest that you consider having two road captains and two sweeps. Have the groups leave 10 minutes apart and it makes it much easier to manage. This is especially true if you have a lot of lights to go through it will be much easier to keep the group together and safe.
We have a little experience with with this as we have 50 or so Club sponsored group rydes a year.
SpyderAnn01
Active member
For the person that did not understand how to stagger on a Spyder. The lead Spyder takes the left side of the lane, left front tire near the center line, the Spyder behind - 3 seconds behind- lines up his left front tire with the rear tire of the Spyder in front which puts him on the right side of the lane. This formation allows you to see several Spyders in front and gives you a cushion in front and alongside in the event of a sudden move.
At no time ever should two Spyders/trikes ride side by side in a single lane as was apparently the case in the PGR accident. No two wheeled motorcycles should ride side by side either, instead there should be a one second interval to the side and 3 to the front of each two wheeler.
And I also have to disagree with Jack Herbst, the safest place for a newbie in a group is at the front, directly behind the leader. They will not be subject to the whiplash effect of the group. When one rider rolls off the throttle this is amplified to the riders at the back and they will constantly be adjusting speed and in big groups this usually means going very fast to catch up.
I rode for 3 straight days with 450 motorcycles on the American Legion Legacy ride and this is how they did it and we made it with no accidents.
At no time ever should two Spyders/trikes ride side by side in a single lane as was apparently the case in the PGR accident. No two wheeled motorcycles should ride side by side either, instead there should be a one second interval to the side and 3 to the front of each two wheeler.
And I also have to disagree with Jack Herbst, the safest place for a newbie in a group is at the front, directly behind the leader. They will not be subject to the whiplash effect of the group. When one rider rolls off the throttle this is amplified to the riders at the back and they will constantly be adjusting speed and in big groups this usually means going very fast to catch up.
I rode for 3 straight days with 450 motorcycles on the American Legion Legacy ride and this is how they did it and we made it with no accidents.
Pirate looks at --
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I'm with Anne
We usually have beginning Ryders up front close to the leader. This is always a trained Road Captain who knows what they are doing and can keep an eye on the newbie. One other good point to mention so that at Stop signs and especially red lights the group should bunch up a in as tight formation as possible. This will shorten the time it takes to get through the intersection and minimize breaks in the group.
We usually have beginning Ryders up front close to the leader. This is always a trained Road Captain who knows what they are doing and can keep an eye on the newbie. One other good point to mention so that at Stop signs and especially red lights the group should bunch up a in as tight formation as possible. This will shorten the time it takes to get through the intersection and minimize breaks in the group.
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