Ground battery connection loose, how to tighten??

[Mexican]

When i was installing the lights i went to disconnect the negative wire from the battery so i could attach the wire fro the lights, that bolt just spins and spins, ended drilling a small 1/4 inch self tapper and ran a separate ground for the lights, now., why does that bolt just spins? does it have a back up nut under the frame? if it does, how do i get to it???
Thanks!!

 

[Bfromla]

When i was installing the lights i went to disconnect the negative wire from the battery so i could attach the wire fro the lights, that bolt just spins and spins, ended drilling a small 1/4 inch self tapper and ran a separate ground for the lights, now., why does that bolt just spins? does it have a back up nut under the frame? if it does, how do i get to it???
Thanks!!

Most motorcycle batteries do & can easily be missed or stripped on install:lecturef_smilie:

 

[Bob Denman]

Are you talking about the one under the seat?? :shocked:
If so: DON'T loosen it! This is a carefully crafted trap, that has been placed there by a devious BRP engineer....
There is no easy way to get a wrench on the nut; you'll need to take a very slender one of the proper size, and bend it to fit the tight spaces! :yikes:

 

[oldgoat]

There are 2 negative wire connections

one on the battery itself

a second one under the seat at the back on the muffler side of the bike.

If it is the second one that is turning you are in for a jolly time trying to tighten it. Requires dexterity & a bent wrench.

 

[spyderCodes]

I'd drill and tap another one.

 

[Chupaca]

Yikes...!!yi

Fortunaltely I read the warnings here on that now famous negative post under the seat used for jumping purposes only....Los siento but there is no easy way to get that bolt tightened up and once you do you will never go there again. What I have heard most is making a tool to do that job. Hopefully those that have survived this ordeal will chime in.....ray:

 

[Mexican]

Are you talking about the one under the seat?? :shocked:
If so: DON'T loosen it! This is a carefully crafted trap, that has been placed there by a devious BRP engineer....
There is no easy way to get a wrench on the nut; you'll need to take a very slender one of the proper size, and bend it to fit the tight spaces! :yikes:

Too late,,, i fell for it:sour:
I think there should be a BIIG WARNING on the center of the screen as soon as you log in that says "DO NOT LOOSEN THE NEGATIVE UNDER THE SEAT" maybe we need to find that egnineer and kick his arse!!
I gusee i need to figure it out, i don't want to go on a trip and get stranded or to start seeing all kinds of codes on the screen:shocked:

 

[Mexican]

Fortunaltely I read the warnings here on that now famous negative post under the seat used for jumping purposes only....Los siento but there is no easy way to get that bolt tightened up and once you do you will never go there again. What I have heard most is making a tool to do that job. Hopefully those that have survived this ordeal will chime in.....ray:

:gaah::gaah::gaah::banghead::banghead:ray:

 

[ThreeWheels]

There is a far easier way to tighten that bolt under the seat then making a home made tool or removing the engine to get access to the underside, although it requires a little bit of feel and technique to fitouche the bolt back in place.

Get a thin wrench, something similar to what is called an ignition wrench. Place it under the head of the bolt and put a little upwards force on it to try and hold the nut up against the underside of the frame. This will give the nut a little bit of bite so it doesn't spin quite as loosely as it will without the upward force.
At the same time, use a drill driver with the appropriate sized nut driver at high speed to tighten up the bolt. If possible, put a little lateral force on the nut driver, again to help the nut bite into the underside of the frame.

The combination of high speed, with the small amount of bite on the nut will tighten the bolt back up.

This technique will work, just don't ask me how I know this.

 

[Mexican]

There is a far easier way to tighten that bolt under the seat then making a home made tool or removing the engine to get access to the underside, although it requires a little bit of feel and technique to fitouche the bolt back in place.

Get a thin wrench, something similar to what is called an ignition wrench. Place it under the head of the bolt and put a little upwards force on it to try and hold the nut up against the underside of the frame. This will give the nut a little bit of bite so it doesn't spin quite as loosely as it will without the upward force.
At the same time, use a drill driver with the appropriate sized nut driver at high speed to tighten up the bolt. If possible, put a little lateral force on the nut driver, again to help the nut bite into the underside of the frame.

The combination of high speed, with the small amount of bite on the nut will tighten the bolt back up.

This technique will work, just don't ask me how I know this.

Ok, i won't ask but , do you remember the size of the wrench? i would hate to try 20 different ones without seeing what i'm doingpps:

 

[cptjam]

10mm

I just got a cheap HF 10mm, bent it in the shape of a "U". Done.

 

[Bob Denman]

:nopic: :2thumbs:

 

[Ex-Rocket]

Don't ever loosen that bolt up. Its a big NO NO:yikes: How do I know

 

[Mexican]

Don't ever loosen that bolt up. Its a big NO NO:yikes: How do I know

So,,, i just joined an elite club?? Looks like almost all Spyder riders have done it, will do it or at least they are thinking about doing it:yikes::roflblack:

 

[WEB-WVR]

Does anyone see an issue with adding a split type lock washer to both battery terminals ??? Seems like that would assist in prevention of loose battery connections. :thumbup:

opcorn:

 

[Bob Denman]

If everyone would just forget that those terminals are under the seat; it'd save a bunch of headaches... :shocked:

 

[SteveLaoyster]

Some 4 letter words of wisdom

Sounds like a location on the bike that has started some 4 letter words of wisdom to be uttered!!:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead: Thanks for letting others know.:2thumbs::2thumbs:

 

[Bob Denman]

:agree: Between this spot, and the silver screws on the sides of the bike; we're all learning what stuff was put on the bike in order to "broaden our language skills". :gaah::cus::gaah::cus:

 

[Mexican]

:agree: Between this spot, and the silver screws on the sides of the bike; we're all learning what stuff was put on the bike in order to "broaden our language skills". :gaah::cus::gaah::cus:

After i found out the mess i got myself into, i realized that i know a lot more English words than i give myself credit for!:roflblack: i

 

[Bob Denman]

:shocked: Have you learned to cuss in Mandarin yet? :dontknow:

Don't worry: you will!!