Got stopped at a dui check point.

[Bob Denman]

When you've actually stood over a casket of a friend :shocked:; THEN come talk to me about it...
Read the post prior to yours...

 

[jerpinoy]

And all I had to do was show my license ( not registration and insurance that was in my frunk) and answer questions. They wanted to know all about the bike and said they really wanted to ride one. It was 40deg and I was suited up. They got me on the way back too as I was taking something to my wife at work round trip and it was on the only street to my house. Same treatment. Just told me to go around the car in front of me. They got 15oz of pot, 1 dui and 4 arrests even after it was announced where and when 24hrs in advance. Some people just do not learn. Good to know the cops like Spyders:thumbup:

You mean you got away?:roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:

 

[muonwhiz]

I have been stopped 3 time for RIDE spot checks (dui stops) from Spring to now ... The one time the young officer could not let me go without asking 100+ questions, nothing about drinking just the same questions everyone has about Spyder's:f_spider:. He asked.. you married? How'd you convince the wife? :shemademe_smilie:

One thing I do is keep some of the small Can Am flyers that I got from dealer in my rear trunk. I give these out to people who have more questions to ask than I have time to answer!

 

[Raknid]

They checkpoints near my house around Labor Day. Like the OP, they had something like one DUI/DWI, but several arrests for pot and other drugs. It is like people are starting to avoid drinking and driving..but still doing the drugs.

 

[wyliec]

Uhhh, that's in the Preamble to the Constitution of the United States of American... not in the Constitution itself. The Preamble has no legal standing to my knowledge.

Regards.

- Michael

Who cares where it's at. The OP wasn't talking about the Constitution either; but, that was brought up. By the way, it's in the Declaration of Independence where you find Life, Liberty and blah, blah, blah.

 

[Dochands]

It is unconstitutional.

 

[reverendg]

This article relates to how most people who quote Franklin take it out of context:

http://www.lawfareblog.com/2011/07/what-ben-franklin-really-said/

Franklin, and the rest of the founders, made themselves well understood on more than one occasion. Whether you choose to disparage the context of a quote or not, the general theme of him and his fellows is well-understood. They founded the nation, not as a democracy, but as a constitutional republic, purposely. Individual rights and liberties were not to be subservient to the "good of the people".

Of course, Franklin first used paraphrased versions of this quote 16 years prior to the instance this reporter speaks of. Him being a New Republic liberal journalist, I expect no less than a jaundiced reporting.

 

[reverendg]

When you've actually stood over a casket of a friend :shocked:; THEN come talk to me about it...
Read the post prior to yours...

I am sorry for your loss, but it pales in comparison to the loss of liberty, the destruction of our constitutionally enumerated liberties. How many caskets were filled obtaining and defending THAT?

There are numerous LEGAL ways of finding and arresting those who break the law. Infringing the rights of the citizens is not one of them.

 

[Bob Denman]

..Bury a family member; then come back to me in here...

 

[reverendg]

..Bury a family member; then come back to me in here...

Again....without liberty, without respect for the constitution, the supreme law of the land, your silly making of excuses for overriding that law are heart rending nonsense. I know a person who died from eating too much sugar....I guess we should outlaw it since it would have helped my friend stay alive? Maybe we should legislate shallower bath tubs so that people can't drown in them? Spyders should be limited to 15 mph, it would save lives. Where do we stop with "feel good" laws? Easy, respect the constitution.

It is easy to invent heart rending pretexts for taking away people's rights.

 

[Captain Fin]

Federal Checkpoint

They don't announce them here in the Old North State. Few months back we were on a poker run, 50 bikes came up on a checkpoint. Yep, they stopped everyone of us. DL check and current sticker on plate. None of us moved until everyone was checked. Pissed the cops off because we waited. One of the guys sent a text to the RC for the next group. There were 80 bikes in that group. They took a different route. I'll say this, don't ever turn around if you see a checkpoint. They will come after you.

Anyone ever see a Federal checkpoint? That's another story.

Yes, we have the federal checkpoint here in the Keys. That is how the Conch Republic came about that you can read about on the internet. There was a Federal Checkpoint set up across from the Last Chance Bar on U.S. 1 at Florida City and the 18 mile Everglades run to the Keys. It really pissed off the locals and tourist.

 

[Bob Denman]

It is easy to invent heart rending pretexts for taking away people's rights.

:shocked::hun:
Normally; Im a pretty easy-going and positive outlook kind of guy...
You and I are gonna bump heads on this one 'til the cows come home... why not drop it before we both say things that we'll regret?

 

[reverendg]

:shocked::hun:
Normally; Im a pretty easy-going and positive outlook kind of guy...
You and I are gonna bump heads on this one 'til the cows come home... why not drop it before we both say things that we'll regret?

I am kinda hardcore about the idea of reinventing my constitutional rights. Unalienable is a word I recall seeing. Cops can learn to do their jobs without trampling rights. I am pretty sure there is at least 3 percent of homes that contain drugs of some illicit sort in most major cities/suburbs. Since that is about the success rate for the checkpoint programs, I guess it justifies no-knock searches of homes for drugs as well. Sounds perfectly logical, what the heck, rights are over-rated. I have seen many times over the tragedy of addiction, so I guess I should be all for this? Or are rights really important after all?

 

[Bob Denman]

I offer us both a chance to step away from this with a bit of our dignity intact :shocked:...
...And you persist :dontknow:

 

[reverendg]

My point is clear enough.

 

[Bob Denman]

Fair enough...
I'll just add you to my ignore list...
Enjoy your ride! :thumbup:

 

[reverendg]

Fair enough...
I'll just add you to my ignore list...
Enjoy your ride! :thumbup:

Works for me....ignorance is bliss for some it seems.

 

[wyliec]

Franklin, and the rest of the founders, made themselves well understood on more than one occasion. Whether you choose to disparage the context of a quote or not, the general theme of him and his fellows is well-understood. They founded the nation, not as a democracy, but as a constitutional republic, purposely. Individual rights and liberties were not to be subservient to the "good of the people".

Of course, Franklin first used paraphrased versions of this quote 16 years prior to the instance this reporter speaks of. Him being a New Republic liberal journalist, I expect no less than a jaundiced reporting.

We all have our beliefs. You believe what you want and I'll believe what I want.

You are one person that I would not put on my ignore list. I like reading what you write; it makes a lot of sense,even though I don't agree with you. I'm not just talking this thread.

Don't take this the wrong way. In my mind I picture you on a pulpit and being very charismatic and swaying the people who come and listen. You just bring someone else to mind with your screen name.