ARtraveler
R.I.P. Dwayne
I think the advertising really works. :yes::yes::yes:
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Got my order in today for the Elio!
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I think the advertising really works. :yes::yes::yes:
Bob Denman
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I'm still hoping for the best for my friends... :2thumbs:
Dan_Ashley
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Pet rocks.
canned New York City air
canned Los Angeles smog
homeopathy
vitamin water
low: salt, fat, carbs
organic vegetables
Yes, I agree advertising works.
Bob Denman
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A thousand years ago, while serving my Collegiate Sentence, I had a Marketing Professor who swore that, "the only thing that can sell a poor product, is GREAT marketing!"
He was correct! :shocked:
He was correct! :shocked:
Texas
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I wish him luck, though I would have strong reservations based on past personal experiences. I put down a deposit on a couple of different vehicles that were promised to be produced, but never panned out. After a few, to several months, I got my deposit back. In those cases, there were no "free T-Shirt", so they could not defend keeping the deposit to my credit card company, because no good were delivered.
However, I suppose in this case, the company can claim that you purchased a T-Shirt for $100. If you say you want to return the T-Shirt, they may charge you for shipping and a restocking fee, which in the end, may not leave you with much of a refund. I hope you get the vehicle, but it isn't easy getting a vehicle like that on the road here in the U.S.; as I'm sure the company has/is finding out.
One of the deposits I made was on a Aptera (California Company) back in 2007. Those vehicles still aren't on the road, and since then, the company has changed direction more times that I can count; to the point I have no more interest in them.
However, I suppose in this case, the company can claim that you purchased a T-Shirt for $100. If you say you want to return the T-Shirt, they may charge you for shipping and a restocking fee, which in the end, may not leave you with much of a refund. I hope you get the vehicle, but it isn't easy getting a vehicle like that on the road here in the U.S.; as I'm sure the company has/is finding out.
One of the deposits I made was on a Aptera (California Company) back in 2007. Those vehicles still aren't on the road, and since then, the company has changed direction more times that I can count; to the point I have no more interest in them.
Dan_Ashley
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I did that with Aptera too. I also got my money back. I thought Aptera went out of business. Am I wrong about that?
Texas
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No, you're right about that; although there was news just last year that they were trying to bring it back:
http://www.gizmag.com/aptera-independent-production-us/27868/
Here is an interesting article that talks about the events leading up to their closing in 2011, although by this time, I was no longer interested in it:
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1070490_aptera-collapse-how-why-it-happened-a-complete-chronology
It also supports the reason why I am doubtful Elio will be successful as well. It takes too much money, and there are just too many regulations and liabilities associated with a machine like that. It's too bad too. I would love to see more alternative options for transportation on the road.
spyderyderjim
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Many 2013 Spyder RT owners lost $$$ on 2014 RT trade in
Thanks for input/info.
To put Elio money deposit in perspective; I lost $10,000 trading in my 2013 Spyder RT-S SE5 only 9 months old, on a new 2014 Spyder RT-S SE6.
I am sure many other 2013 RT Spyder owners lost similar on 2014 RT trade in.
BRP kept the 2014 RT 1330 in line triple motor & SE6 trans a total secret until Sept 2013.
Basically lying to Spyder owners like myself who bought the 2013 RT, in order to sell their heat problem 2013 RT's with a 2014 frame under it.
Life is too short to worry about a few $$$.
The 2014 Spyder RT-S SE6 has an awesome torque triple motor, smooth shifting trans, improved handling, gas mileage, etc!!!
Enjoy the ryde!!!
Jim
Thanks for input/info.
To put Elio money deposit in perspective; I lost $10,000 trading in my 2013 Spyder RT-S SE5 only 9 months old, on a new 2014 Spyder RT-S SE6.
I am sure many other 2013 RT Spyder owners lost similar on 2014 RT trade in.
BRP kept the 2014 RT 1330 in line triple motor & SE6 trans a total secret until Sept 2013.
Basically lying to Spyder owners like myself who bought the 2013 RT, in order to sell their heat problem 2013 RT's with a 2014 frame under it.
Life is too short to worry about a few $$$.
The 2014 Spyder RT-S SE6 has an awesome torque triple motor, smooth shifting trans, improved handling, gas mileage, etc!!!
Enjoy the ryde!!!
Jim
Bob Denman
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:shocked::hun:
ARtraveler
R.I.P. Dwayne
Right you are. Elio is not the only money pit. At least they are not requiring full deposits in advance.
RE: Spyders: I figure I lost about $8K when I traded my fully farkled 2008 on the 2010 RTS Premier. I also figure I am down a couple K on my latest trade for a 2014 RT-S.
In retrospect though--With the Spyders, I have always been a happy camper. I love the product and realize that they are way more expensive to own than a lot of other cycle type vehicles.
Not so sure the Elio people will be as happy. Quality, longevity, serviceability, are all items that are yet to be determined in the saga. :bbq::bbq:
Bob Denman
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Only time; will tell the tale...
Tick... tick... Tick...
Tick... tick... Tick...
Dan_Ashley
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Also, I think there is a big difference between the luxury 3 wheel motorcycle (Spyder) market and the inexpensive daily commuter market (Elio). One is primarily recreational, the other is primarily job-oriented transportation.
ARtraveler
R.I.P. Dwayne
Absolutely correct. We are comparing apples to oranges.
On second and third reading, I am also thinking that my talking about loss in value when I traded on successive :spyder2:'s may be construed as a complaint. In my case, I knew exactly what I was doing and got the best deals I could on the :ani29:'s that I wanted. Sometimes you don't come out ahead when trading anything off.
UNHIJACK: and back to the subject at hand. :yes:
Dan_Ashley
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Now it is no longer Spring 2015 for production start, it is Late 2015--maybe September or...http://theweeklydriver.com/elio-motors-suffers-setback-debut-late-2015/
Old news from last month....http://us6.campaign-archive1.com/?u=24b371802c83d81776b06aa68&id=0d2e95dfd4... Nothing's changed since your post #32.
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ARtraveler
R.I.P. Dwayne
And the saga goes on...:yikes:
Illinois Boy
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:agree: Anyone thinking there is actually going to be an Elio for sale on the market is dreaming -- unfortunately. So far, he keeps taking people's money though, and people keep sending it to him; which I find completely mind-boggling.
Bob Denman
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although I wouldn't mind being able to get a Tee-Shirt...
...But NOT for a hundred bucks! :yikes:
...But NOT for a hundred bucks! :yikes:
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