got my buds report today BUT!!!!

[Magdave]

Has anyone replaced the analog gauge with one with a digital number readout?

I like numbers instead of arbitrary bars...

That is even more accurate than the bar method and I have seen some members do that. Not sure where they got them from.

 

[billybovine]

Has anyone replaced the analog gauge with one with a digital number readout?

I like numbers instead of arbitrary bars...

I remember someone doing it maybe a year or two ago. I did a search but could not find anything.

 

[cuznjohn]

"steering angle sensor"

My BUDS report shows max temp at 225. Batter is battery minimum and maximum voltage. All those reading in that line are minimums and maximums, intake (psi) is manifold pressures, intake (F temp) is temps of the air the engine is breathing, exhaust (F temp) mine shows -54 assuming the dealer can't take this reading so it's defaulting to that -54 could be a probe they have to buy? Engine (F temp) is your minimum and maximum temp, then your battery volts. The one that has got me confused is on page 3 if you got it all, look down to "steering angle sensor" mine is 6.25 and I read on here somewhere that Lamont posted something about if this is over 4.xx then it will set a code? Can anybody confirm this??? Not jacking your thread just curious.

mine is on page 4 and the reading is 27.00

 

[BajaRon]

who knows how to read it, all i can make out is

MINIMUM AND MAXIMUM
RPM INTAKE ( PSI ) INTAKE ( F ) EXHAUST ( F ) ENGINE ( F ) BATTER
MAXIMUM 9560 14 102 -54 236 15.10

MINIMUM 0 3 -39 -54 56 10.90

NOW the engine temp at idle is 236 degrees is that considered hot. the buds report is like 4 pages long and most of it is code numbers so i have no clue how to read it, but this is the report that brp called me on and said my bike is running hot with.

I would think this data would be for the dealer to use in making repairs to your Spyder. Surely they don't expect you to troubleshoot this???

 

[Barlock]

who knows how to read it, all i can make out is

MINIMUM AND MAXIMUM
RPM INTAKE ( PSI ) INTAKE ( F ) EXHAUST ( F ) ENGINE ( F ) BATTER
MAXIMUM 9560 14 102 -54 236 15.10

MINIMUM 0 3 -39 -54 56 10.90

NOW the engine temp at idle is 236 degrees is that considered hot. the buds report is like 4 pages long and most of it is code numbers so i have no clue how to read it, but this is the report that brp called me on and said my bike is running hot with.

A few things look a bit confusing to me. How could Min and Max Exhaust temperature be not only the same but actually -54F? Unless I misread it. And another one - have you, John, experienced an ambient temperature of -39F? Because this is what this table shows under min Intake temperature.
[TABLE="width: 775"]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]RPM
[/TD]
[TD]INTAKE ( PSI )
[/TD]
[TD]INTAKE ( F )
[/TD]
[TD]EXHAUST ( F )
[/TD]
[TD]ENGINE ( F )
[/TD]
[TD]BATTER
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]MAXIMUM
[/TD]
[TD]9560
[/TD]
[TD]14
[/TD]
[TD]102
[/TD]
[TD]-54
[/TD]
[TD]236
[/TD]
[TD]15.10
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]MINIMUM
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]3
[/TD]
[TD]-39
[/TD]
[TD]-54
[/TD]
[TD]56
[/TD]
[TD]10.90
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[TABLE="width: 775"]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

 

[cuznjohn]

i don't remember

A few things look a bit confusing to me. How could Min and Max Exhaust temperature be not only the same but actually -54F? Unless I misread it. And another one - did you, John, experienced an ambient temperature of -39F? Because this is what this table shows under min Intake temperature.
[TABLE="width: 775"]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]RPM [/TD]
[TD]INTAKE ( PSI ) [/TD]
[TD]INTAKE ( F ) [/TD]
[TD]EXHAUST ( F ) [/TD]
[TD]ENGINE ( F ) [/TD]
[TD]BATTER[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]MAXIMUM[/TD]
[TD]9560[/TD]
[TD]14[/TD]
[TD]102[/TD]
[TD]-54[/TD]
[TD]236[/TD]
[TD]15.10[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]MINIMUM[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]-39[/TD]
[TD]-54[/TD]
[TD]56[/TD]
[TD]10.90[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[TABLE="width: 775"]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

i don't remember what it was when they did the test but your readings are the same as mine, so do you feel the heat is bad on your bike, and did anything melt on your bike, my canister melted so they had the bike for a week waiting for the part

 

[Barlock]

i don't remember what it was when they did the test but your readings are the same as mine, so do you feel the heat is bad on your bike, and did anything melt on your bike, my canister melted so they had the bike for a week waiting for the part

Sorry, John, for misleading you, but those were your readings. I just put them into a more readable (table) format. And to answer your questions, I did not have any of those problems (yet), but then again, I bought my bike only 2 months ago. Will see how it performs in the future, but for now it is parked for winter.

 

[3 Wheel Addict]

A few things look a bit confusing to me. How could Min and Max Exhaust temperature be not only the same but actually -54F? Unless I misread it. And another one - have you, John, experienced an ambient temperature of -39F? Because this is what this table shows under min Intake temperature.
[TABLE="width: 775"]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]RPM
[/TD]
[TD]INTAKE ( PSI )
[/TD]
[TD]INTAKE ( F )
[/TD]
[TD]EXHAUST ( F )
[/TD]
[TD]ENGINE ( F )
[/TD]
[TD]BATTER
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]MAXIMUM
[/TD]
[TD]9560
[/TD]
[TD]14
[/TD]
[TD]102
[/TD]
[TD]-54
[/TD]
[TD]236
[/TD]
[TD]15.10
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]MINIMUM
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]3
[/TD]
[TD]-39
[/TD]
[TD]-54
[/TD]
[TD]56
[/TD]
[TD]10.90
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[TABLE="width: 775"]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

The -54 is most likely because the dealer don't have the exhaust temp probe or it's a feature that BRP do allow the dealer to get. I wonder if he actually had a 39 instead of -39 that would make more sense, -39 would be artic circle temps... brrrr

 

[cuznjohn]

boiling temp

The -54 is most likely because the dealer don't have the exhaust temp probe or it's a feature that BRP do allow the dealer to get. I wonder if he actually had a 39 instead of -39 that would make more sense, -39 would be artic circle temps... brrrr

what temp does the gas boil at. i have 150 degrees at the cap but someone said they couldn't touch the cap and heard the gas boiling. i was just talking to a friend and he said the temp of the engine was really hot now i am wondering what other bikes are running at

 

[billybovine]

The -54 is most likely because the dealer don't have the exhaust temp probe or it's a feature that BRP do allow the dealer to get. I wonder if he actually had a 39 instead of -39 that would make more sense, -39 would be artic circle temps... brrrr

Can't blame the dealer for the readings. The report is just a printout of the stored values in memory. The engine was not even running at the time the report was generated. There is no exhaust temp probe so there is no data to report so the -54 is just a default value. The -39 value for intake is likely another default value that has never been exceeded.

The data looks good. No engine issues in this data. The RPM did exceed max by 60 rpm but that was likely just momentum after the rev limiter kicked in.

 

[cuznjohn]

no clue

i have no clue what is going on with the readings but i am wondering if anyone else that is having heat problems have their buds reports so we can compare numbers, i looked it up for the temp that gas boils at this is what i found

The boiling point of a substance is the temperature at which molecules within a substance begin to vaporize. Gasoline will boil at temperatures ranging from 100 - 400 degrees Fahrenheit. Gasoline will ignite at 495 degrees Fahrenheit.

so there is little chance of a explosion with the temps we are getting on the bikes,,, i hope

 

[3 Wheel Addict]

i have no clue what is going on with the readings but i am wondering if anyone else that is having heat problems have their buds reports so we can compare numbers, i looked it up for the temp that gas boils at this is what i found

The boiling point of a substance is the temperature at which molecules within a substance begin to vaporize. Gasoline will boil at temperatures ranging from 100 - 400 degrees Fahrenheit. Gasoline will ignite at 495 degrees Fahrenheit.

so there is little chance of a explosion with the temps we are getting on the bikes,,, i hope

Yes but gasoline turns into vapor easily at heated temps and vapors can explode. My dealer recorded 153 on my cap and that's inline with the results I have been recording. Even my lawn mower has a sticker that says not to fill when hot. From some of the posts on here and a few PM's I believe we will have a fix soon but it will most likely be in the spring of next year. With winter coming on i'm ok with that. My dealer told me last night that he will be willing to put my bike back on the showroom floor and give me a "long term" loaner 14 model till we get it sold. That was great news from him and I suppose he don't even have to do that, but I told him all I want is my bike fixed and if nothing gets done then that's the next option. I feel now my dealer has his hands tied and knows nothing of a fix in the works. When BRP get's something going that "IS" going to be a fix then the dealers will be made aware. Another fix right after the recall could put people with no problems into panic mode so I have stepped back and looked at this from a manufacture's standpoint and I could see it. They (BRP) could save face if they would just tell the people that are complaining that "were working on a fix".