Got an education on MC clubs this weekend for Texas

[Blondespyder]

I just couldn't hold back any longer regarding this thread...

First of all, if you are riding a Spyder around any of these clubs you are likely to get your butt kicked just on the principal you are riding a Spyder and not a motorcycle or a traditional trike. Don't fool yourself... you are not going to be considered a threat to any of these club members unless you do something completely stupid. They don't want the "heat" of knocking you around.

Second... no one here should be considering themselves or any organization they "ride-with or belong-to" as a motorcycle club. That is just the beginning of potential trouble. However, even it you do, you really have to expose yourself to these clubs while being a complete idiot before you'll find your butt being kicked around. Seriously... these clubs are NOT going to kick your butt when you are on a Spyder wearing what some might call "colors" -- unless you are a complete idiot around them.

Third... if you decide that you want to be a "biker club" and have patches... then get to know the local outlaw clubs and let them know about your intentions. Likely you will not be harassed by any of them. In fact, you won't be harassed by them unless you intend to interfere in what they "do" -- if you know what I mean.

Two posts previous to mine mentions the Outlaws club located in my town. We have two such clubs... the Outlaws and the HA's. If you have ever seen the documentary on outlaw motorcycle clubs you will see a part in the documentary that occurred in this town between those two clubs over a decade ago. Members were violently murdered, and some of those involved are still spending time in prison. It was one of the worst "biker club" incidences that had ever occurred up to that time.

Look... these guys are involved with themselves and those that intrude upon their "businesses". A person wearing a leather vest with a patch or two on it is not going to garner the attention of these guys... no way. YOU are not worth their time or the risk of them going to jail.

Just ride your Spyders as you do and don't pull up to unfamiliar places where these clubs might by "hanging around". And if you do, just don't be an idiot and you will be fine -- other than the harassment you may have to endure for riding your Spyder.

Just saying...

I don't think anyone is saying they are a MC club. We are just discussing what can happen if you do not respect the MC clubs in your area.
And I have seen some Spyder riders with patches and rockers on their vests. it is their personal choice and I respect that.
I was just interested in finding out what the actual "Rules" were for the area I live in.
As for them not wanting to get into an altercation with someone on a Spyder. I have no idea if they would or not. There is alway someone who might want to make a point. So why take the chance?

My personal view is I respect their Club and have no desire to create one. Just making sure it doesn't look like it by mistake.

We all just get together and ride here. And safety is always first and foremost for me.

 

[Pappy and Nanna]

confusion setting in my old mine

so after reading all of this and trying to understand it. While I certainly have no desire to have issues or to disrespect anyone, I am confused. Does the design that CAT did on the shirts for Texas Spyder Riders meet all the guidelines of ok to wear or does it cross the lines?

 

[Blondespyder]

so after reading all of this and trying to understand it. While I certainly have no desire to have issues or to disrespect anyone, I am confused. Does the design that CAT did on the shirts for Texas Spyder Riders meet all the guidelines of ok to wear or does it cross the lines?

Depends. Does it say Texas on the back? With any names or affiliations?

I say read Lamont's post.. It's a good guideline on rules of riding in certain territories

 

[jScotD]

I don't wear any patches, never have, never will.. my only jacket over the years is a dusty old wax cotton jacket.. put a patch on it now, and it will leak in the rain.. maybe i'm a 1%.. I have always ridden in all kinds of weather and alone 99% of the time.. There were time I had icicles hanging off my gloves and the motorcycle seat was frozen because it leaked.. remember going through Oklahoma in a freezing rain,,,,,stopped at a truck stop, and my hands shook so much, the waitress took my coffee and soup to the table for me.. the sheriff and the state trooper looked at me weird.. some where in New Mexico, later , I pulled over for the night,, and hoped the snow would be melted by the time i left the next day.. I'm not a whisky drinker, but was that night.. frozen to the bone..... i have been all over the US on a motorcycle , hope to do the same on this Can_am,,, I have met many of the 1% ers in my life.. helped push their bikes back on the road when they over estimated.. Met the Prez Of one .. in Houston.. they just figgured I was as crazy as they were.. I have always gotten along with those that actually ride and not profile... in a few short months, I will be 65,, this thing has been going on since I was 12
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for you BlondeSpyder.. been in you home town mAnY tImEs

you wil probabaly have to highlght it

Happy ThanksGiving Folks

 

[jScotD]

well guess not...

 

[CanAmChris]

I just couldn't hold back any longer regarding this thread...

First of all, if you are riding a Spyder around any of these clubs you are likely to get your butt kicked just on the principal you are riding a Spyder and not a motorcycle or a traditional trike. Don't fool yourself... you are not going to be considered a threat to any of these club members unless you do something completely stupid. They don't want the "heat" of knocking you around.

First, you contradicted yourself. How and why does anyone get their butt kicked if they are not considered a threat? They don't. I have never ever seen any MC 'Kick Butt' on the basis of what anyone rides or drives. Following this logic anyone who rides a quad or "Non" traditional motorcycle is fair game. You are only a threat If you do something completely stupid? Stop watching Sons of Anarchy.

Second... no one here should be considering themselves or any organization they "ride-with or belong-to" as a motorcycle club. That is just the beginning of potential trouble. However, even it you do, you really have to expose yourself to these clubs while being a complete idiot before you'll find your butt being kicked around. Seriously... these clubs are NOT going to kick your butt when you are on a Spyder wearing what some might call "colors" -- unless you are a complete idiot around them.

Second, No one here considers themselves in a MC, You toss around the word idiot a lot. Also butt kicking. Stop watching Sons of Anarchy.

Third... if you decide that you want to be a "biker club" and have patches... then get to know the local outlaw clubs and let them know about your intentions. Likely you will not be harassed by any of them. In fact, you won't be harassed by them unless you intend to interfere in what they "do" -- if you know what I mean.

Third, you infer that all Motorcycle Clubs are by definition outside the law or break the law. Stop watching Sons of Anarchy.

Two posts previous to mine mentions the Outlaws club located in my town. We have two such clubs... the Outlaws and the HA's. If you have ever seen the documentary on outlaw motorcycle clubs you will see a part in the documentary that occurred in this town between those two clubs over a decade ago. Members were violently murdered, and some of those involved are still spending time in prison. It was one of the worst "biker club" incidences that had ever occurred up to that time.

Fear not! The motorcycle clubs that you fear in the documentry that might mention your home town have no bearing on people that ride a Spyder today. You will not be molested by any MC for wearing a patch as long as it is not a patch of thier rival. Worst case, you will be asked to show you back and you will be asked to go on your way. (it has happened to me a few times)

Look... these guys are involved with themselves and those that intrude upon their "businesses". A person wearing a leather vest with a patch or two on it is not going to garner the attention of these guys... no way. YOU are not worth their time or the risk of them going to jail.

There is the contradiction. You assume that anyone with a patch will be confronted. This is seldome the case. You assume that MCs are trafficing in drugs or guns or women. Stop watching Sons of Anarchy.

Just ride your Spyders as you do and don't pull up to unfamiliar places where these clubs might by "hanging around". And if you do, just don't be an idiot and you will be fine -- other than the harassment you may have to endure for riding your Spyder.

Again, you use idiot to describe the Spyderlovers members. Who are you to call anyone here an idiot. I have never endured harrassment for riding a Spyder. In point of fact, every time I pull into a Harley Dealer or a bar parking lot, everyone wants to check out my Spyder

Just saying...

 

[cyclelover63]

Never cut the collar off a denim vest?...What does that have to do with anything disrespectful?..Just asking...

 

[CanAmChris]

Never cut the collar off a denim vest?...What does that have to do with anything disrespectful?..Just asking...

Thanks for asking. If you have a collar on your denim vest it is an easy way for MC's to see they you are not afiliatted. A rider can see that from the front as you pass and has no need to turn around to see your back patch. Most MC's cut the sleeves and collar off. If you have a collar you are showing them that you are not in a MC.

CAC

 

[revjvegas]

I avoid wearing the wrong colors by not dressing like a biker. Nobody pays attention to a rider wearing day glo yellow anyway. They just point and laugh.

:agree: .. right there with ya.

 

[arntufun]

don't the mc's also have the right to live how they want in America ? just like anybody else? i wouldn't dis a 1%'er in a public forum.

What are they going to do about it ??????? :roflblack:



My address is,

1313 Mockingbird Ln
Come on in....... the doors unlocked. :thumbup:

 

[MouthPiece]

What will happen if I wear my bermuda shorts and pointy toe boots? :yikes:

Chris

 

[Recluze]

Very nice group of guys BTW

But they don't tolerate a patch well? Sounds like a swell bunch.

 

[Bob Denman]

Thanks for asking. If you have a collar on your denim vest it is an easy way for MC's to see they you are not afiliatted. A rider can see that from the front as you pass and has no need to turn around to see your back patch.

If they want to ask me about it; I take the collar off so that the my neck doesn't sweat during the armer months...
don't you just hate when that runs down the middle of your back? :shocked:

 

[Illinois Boy]

First, you contradicted yourself. How and why does anyone get their butt kicked if they are not considered a threat? They don't. I have never ever seen any MC 'Kick Butt' on the basis of what anyone rides or drives. Following this logic anyone who rides a quad or "Non" traditional motorcycle is fair game. You are only a threat If you do something completely stupid? Stop watching Sons of Anarchy.

Second, No one here considers themselves in a MC, You toss around the word idiot a lot. Also butt kicking. Stop watching Sons of Anarchy.

Third, you infer that all Motorcycle Clubs are by definition outside the law or break the law. Stop watching Sons of Anarchy.

Fear not! The motorcycle clubs that you fear in the documentry that might mention your home town have no bearing on people that ride a Spyder today. You will not be molested by any MC for wearing a patch as long as it is not a patch of thier rival. Worst case, you will be asked to show you back and you will be asked to go on your way. (it has happened to me a few times)

There is the contradiction. You assume that anyone with a patch will be confronted. This is seldome the case. You assume that MCs are trafficing in drugs or guns or women. Stop watching Sons of Anarchy.

Again, you use idiot to describe the Spyderlovers members. Who are you to call anyone here an idiot. I have never endured harrassment for riding a Spyder. In point of fact, every time I pull into a Harley Dealer or a bar parking lot, everyone wants to check out my Spyder

Just saying...

Did not call anyone an idiot... you need to read what was written. I stated you would only likely be harassed if you acted like an IDIOT.

Secondly... I own a Spyder, and agree no one would be kicked-around for what they ride. The statement was "tongue-in-cheek".

Thirdly... don't make assumptions about me... I have never watched Sons of Anarchy.

Fourth... there WAS a post of someone stating they were in a MC... my reference was directed to the fact if you call yourself a MC it is the first opening for trouble. If you would have read further, you would see I stated even that would not likely be a cause to have trouble -- but that acting like an idiot would.

Fifth... I have no clue what you are saying about the MC's in my town. I never said I feared them. I said that they are only interested in themselves and their rival club. Have no clue what the heck you are talking about... read what I wrote, not what you think I wrote.

Sixth... I never said or assumed anyone with a patch will be approached. Others posted they were concerned about patches. I merely said a patch alone is not typically enough reason for a MC to approach you. Instead you have to act like an IDIOT if you want trouble.

Lastly... where do you see that I called anyone (that is a Spyder rider) an idiot directly. I did not. I stated that acting like an idiot is what can get you in trouble.

Take chill pill...

 

[Bob Denman]

So who actually owns all of the rights to this mystical and magical "Motorcycle club" designation?? :dontknow:
If we call ourselves a "Philosophical Society"; do you think that we'd be left alone?? :roflblack:

 

[Blondespyder]

First, you contradicted yourself. How and why does anyone get their butt kicked if they are not considered a threat? They don't. I have never ever seen any MC 'Kick Butt' on the basis of what anyone rides or drives. Following this logic anyone who rides a quad or "Non" traditional motorcycle is fair game. You are only a threat If you do something completely stupid? Stop watching Sons of Anarchy.




Second, No one here considers themselves in a MC, You toss around the word idiot a lot. Also butt kicking. Stop watching Sons of Anarchy.




Third, you infer that all Motorcycle Clubs are by definition outside the law or break the law. Stop watching Sons of Anarchy.



Fear not! The motorcycle clubs that you fear in the documentry that might mention your home town have no bearing on people that ride a Spyder today. You will not be molested by any MC for wearing a patch as long as it is not a patch of thier rival. Worst case, you will be asked to show you back and you will be asked to go on your way. (it has happened to me a few times)



There is the contradiction. You assume that anyone with a patch will be confronted. This is seldome the case. You assume that MCs are trafficing in drugs or guns or women. Stop watching Sons of Anarchy.



Again, you use idiot to describe the Spyderlovers members. Who are you to call anyone here an idiot. I have never endured harrassment for riding a Spyder. In point of fact, every time I pull into a Harley Dealer or a bar parking lot, everyone wants to check out my Spyder

Just saying...

Ok you just made me laugh my butt off!!!

I would have to agree. Some do need to quit watching Sons of Anarchy. If that's how they believe most MC clubs live.

I will say, the only reason I started this thread was BECAUSE I WAS approached by the 1%'ers . Who I know very well. And they were not confrontational or anything. They were just telling me what I could expect and how to do things correctly to wear our group patch we have here without offending anyone. As for the few who thinks these men are idiots or bad. You apparently don't know any of them. The majority are great guys who just live by a different set of rules than you and I..

As always, just ride for fun and be safe.

 

[dabreitbach]

So who actually owns all of the rights to this mystical and magical "Motorcycle club" designation?? :dontknow:
If we call ourselves a "Philosophical Society"; do you think that we'd be left alone?? :roflblack:

Supposidly its belongs to the 1%ers. Anybody else is a "Riding Club".:dontknow:

 

[Blondespyder]

Lamont posted a great link as to the "lingo" of the MC clubs and how they work.

And I apologize if this thread has caused any misunderstandings. It was just intended to inform and nothing else, on what I personally was told this weekend at an event I went to.

The information I was given was specifically for my area and my state. And as many of you have pointed out. If you don't act stupid. They really won't mess with you.

 

[Bob Denman]

If you don't act stupid. They really won't mess with you.

So does "Stupid" actually include how you decorate your jacket with patches or not? :dontknow:
I would HOPE that contextual clues would mean something in the overall interaction.
Example: I've got a jacket from Walt Disney World... It's got Mickey on the back dressed as the Wizard from Fantasia...
If my initials were MC", and I had an "Empire State" patch on my jacket because I happen to LIKE New York...
Am I risking a confrontation even if I'm just sitting enjoying an ice cream along the highway with my Missus? :shocked:

 

[arntufun]

Ok you just made me laugh my butt off!!!

I would have to agree. Some do need to quit watching Sons of Anarchy. If that's how they believe most MC clubs live.

I will say, the only reason I started this thread was BECAUSE I WAS approached by the 1%'ers . Who I know very well. And they were not confrontational or anything. They were just telling me what I could expect and how to do things correctly to wear our group patch we have here without offending anyone. As for the few who thinks these men are idiots or bad. You apparently don't know any of them. The majority are great guys who just live by a different set of rules than you and I..

As always, just ride for fun and be safe.

Your right........... I don't know them.


South Park even makes fun of these people !!!!!! Your "so called" friends are the ones that might need to stop watching SOA if they think people still listen to them anymore or care what disrespects them.

You ride and be safe out there as well. :thumbup: