Got an education on MC clubs this weekend for Texas

[Blondespyder]

Everyone makes very valid points. And it seems to me most everyone is well versed in how to stay away from trouble with the "outlaw" MC clubs.

No information is too much information to be safe and for everyone to get along

 

[Bob Denman]

Just one little teeny-tiny clarification...
When does a motorcycle club become a gang? :shocked: :roflblack: :joke:

 

[Yazz]

Just one little teeny-tiny clarification...
When does a motorcycle club become a gang? :shocked: :roflblack: :joke:

When you're the MOgang! :yes::yes::yes:

 

[Bob Denman]

Got it... MOGang is NOT MoMotorcycleclub! :thumbup:

 

[Laila's Dad]

Just one little teeny-tiny clarification...
When does a motorcycle club become a gang? :shocked: :roflblack: :joke:

I think with the motorcycle club you ask to join and they send you emails about events and ask you if you want to come and you can for 6 months without riding with them and still be in the club. With the gang you are down all the time and if you don't ride with them for a week they come looking for you because they think you went to the cops. lol

 

[Bob Denman]

...And don't they all have to sleep with your "Ole Lady" too? :shocked:
(The gang; not the club!)
Or have I seen too many biker movies to be healthy?? :roflblack:

 

[wyliec]

I thank God for wisdom as I grow older, for Laila's mom, and for Laila because without them my foolish pride would have me to say I wish someone would tell me not to wear a patch that isn't from a gang. I get turf wars where one gang says they run a certain area, but that is between the gangs. You see a pedestrian riding with some regular citizens and you tell me to take my jacket off or a patch...but I digress, as I guess if you want a long life you have to suck up a lot of things. It's all apart of being a responsible adult, I suppose

Your subject line "right to bare arms" could cause a problem.

If you are wearing a short sleeve shirt, you certainly have a right to bare arms. But, if you have a long sleeve shirt, you can bear a derringer on your forearm.

 

[PrairieSpyder]

I was incredulous when I first learned about the 1%er rules that apply even to us 99s. My brother's friend is part of a veterans MC, and they had to go to the area 1% MC to get permission to operate in this territory.

Amazing!

 

[Bob Denman]

The irony in all of this is staggering...
We are expected to follow their rules...
But they thumb their noses at society!

 

[Laila's Dad]

Your subject line "right to bare arms" could cause a problem.

If you are wearing a short sleeve shirt, you certainly have a right to bare arms. But, if you have a long sleeve shirt, you can bear a derringer on your forearm.

I am 100% for the right to bare arms or to show your bare arms . I guess sometimes there is something on the inside of me that just can't believe the mindset of some people. This land we live in, our freedom, our rights people have died for that but yet I have to check my closet before I go cruising to make sure I am in compliance. Just makes no sense to me.

 

[asp125]

I avoid wearing the wrong colors by not dressing like a biker. Nobody pays attention to a rider wearing day glo yellow anyway. They just point and laugh.

 

[coz]

rights

don't the mc's also have the right to live how they want in America ? just like anybody else? i wouldn't dis a 1%'er in a public forum.

 

[Laila's Dad]

don't the mc's also have the right to live how they want in America ? just like anybody else? i wouldn't dis a 1%'er in a public forum.

valid point, you never know who is paying attention.

 

[wyliec]

don't the mc's also have the right to live how they want in America ? just like anybody else? i wouldn't dis a 1%'er in a public forum.

Yes they do; but, they don't have any right to infringe on my (legal) rights

 

[PrairieSpyder]

The irony in all of this is staggering...
We are expected to follow their rules...
But they thumb their noses at society!

That's why they're only 1% of the population.

 

[Yazz]

Or have I seen too many biker movies to be healthy?? :roflblack:

You've watched too many moves... :thumbup:

I was incredulous when I first learned about the 1%er rules that apply even to us 99s. My brother's friend is part of a veterans MC, and they had to go to the area 1% MC to get permission to operate in this territory. Amazing!

Are you sure he hooked up with 1%s or with the Confederation of Clubs? The COC was set up to be a mediator between the clubs. A friend's father had to go through COC to get the Southern Cruisers set up in our area.

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Have a good friend who's a 1%er. He and his wife are the nicest people you would ever want to meet. Met a lot of his friends too. You know what? Yeah they can look scary when you first meet them but... they would be the first ones to pull over and help if you were stranded alongside the road, and get you safely on your way.

It's good to have protocol down pat regarding colors. That's why I don't wear any. Keep your nose clean, mind your own business and you're good to go.

 

[Questions]

get educated

Please follow the link below for RC and MC education.

http://www.rcvsmc.net/index.html

Thanks

 

[dabreitbach]

Ok I'll chime in. We just had a run in with a big 1% club, THE OUTLAWS. At the end of the summer the head of the Rockford club came in to our little town and told people at bike nite that he was going to buy the building across the street and move the Rockford Il. club here. This is on mainstreet downtown. He also stated that he wanted 30 recruits so they could wipe out the hells angels in rockford. Well that went over like a lead ballon. Between private citizens and city officials and our local cops we had the sherrifs department, state police and the feds all in on this. Anytime they came in town they were watched, closely. After 2 months of twice weekly visits and somebody else buying the building out from under them, they got the message and left.
I guess the feds are really after the outlaws because about a year ago they met with some mexi cartel honcho's about working together. The are now listed as domestic terrorists by homeland defense. They have raided about a half dozen chapters in the last year and locked up every member and associate. LESSON, don't hook up with out of country badguys in post 911 america. The feds will declare war on your ass.

 

[CanAmChris]

The link to http://www.rcvsmc.net/index.html is very good information and can keep you out of trouble. I suggest reading all of the site. I read it a couple years ago. There are many parts that you should not overlook. (Brother/Bro for example)

I can say though that in my experience, it is as simple as 'Leave them alone and you will be left alone'

Unless you put an MC patch on your back most clubs will not bother you. Most Motorcycle Clubs that people fear have a three patch system for 'colors'
1. Center back big patch is club affiliation
2. Bottom back rocker is chapter (state or local) affiliation
3. MC back patch. Usually on the bottom right of the cut (vest). It is almost always a patch with just the letters MC on it.

In the interest of brevity I will tell you this. If you wear a denim vest, never cut off the collar. I have provided pictures of the vest I wear as an example. I can walk into any biker bar (Not a Club House unless I am invited) and have no problems. In fact, I have been asked to join a couple of three patch MCs and many MC members do call me Brother when they see me. That is their choice and I reciprocate out of mutual respect. I would not presume to call a three patch wearing member of any MC 'Brother' or 'Bro' unless they offered the salutaion first.



If you have any question about my patches or pins, please feel free to PM or email me.

CAC

 

[Illinois Boy]

I just couldn't hold back any longer regarding this thread...

First of all, if you are riding a Spyder around any of these clubs you are likely to get your butt kicked just on the principal you are riding a Spyder and not a motorcycle or a traditional trike. Don't fool yourself... you are not going to be considered a threat to any of these club members unless you do something completely stupid. They don't want the "heat" of knocking you around.

Second... no one here should be considering themselves or any organization they "ride-with or belong-to" as a motorcycle club. That is just the beginning of potential trouble. However, even it you do, you really have to expose yourself to these clubs while being a complete idiot before you'll find your butt being kicked around. Seriously... these clubs are NOT going to kick your butt when you are on a Spyder wearing what some might call "colors" -- unless you are a complete idiot around them.

Third... if you decide that you want to be a "biker club" and have patches... then get to know the local outlaw clubs and let them know about your intentions. Likely you will not be harassed by any of them. In fact, you won't be harassed by them unless you intend to interfere in what they "do" -- if you know what I mean.

Two posts previous to mine mentions the Outlaws club located in my town. We have two such clubs... the Outlaws and the HA's. If you have ever seen the documentary on outlaw motorcycle clubs you will see a part in the documentary that occurred in this town between those two clubs over a decade ago. Members were violently murdered, and some of those involved are still spending time in prison. It was one of the worst "biker club" incidences that had ever occurred up to that time.

Look... these guys are involved with themselves and those that intrude upon their "businesses". A person wearing a leather vest with a patch or two on it is not going to garner the attention of these guys... no way. YOU are not worth their time or the risk of them going to jail.

Just ride your Spyders as you do and don't pull up to unfamiliar places where these clubs might by "hanging around". And if you do, just don't be an idiot and you will be fine -- other than the harassment you may have to endure for riding your Spyder.

Just saying...