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SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN said:
Don't make it the responsibility of the employer to do the governments job, punish the hooker not the johns.
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All I can say to that is, "Wow, no wonder we have a problem with illegal immigrants." We have Americans who hire these people and you want to let them keep doing it??? My own house was built by illegals working for a major U.S. builder -- that information came direct from our American-born warranty rep himself. The illegals are coming here to work and companies like my own builder are hiring them because illegals work cheap. The people who hire illegals are profiting by breaking the law. To correct your example, the employers here are not the johns, they're the pimps who profit from the hookers.
 
johnsimion said:
To correct your example, the employers here are not the johns, they're the pimps who profit from the hookers.
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And we're the ones getting screwed! :gaah:
I had a contractor show up here, to put on a new roof. His employees looked... awfully new to the U.S.
I asked him what the story was, and he told me that they were Guatemalans, and not legal.
I told him to leave: take his materials with him, and to NOT return. nojoke

I paid a bunch more for the next guy; but you have to take a stand... :dontknow:
 
Bob Denman said:
And we're the ones getting screwed! :gaah:
I had a contractor show up here, to put on a new roof. His employees looked... awfully new to the U.S.
I asked him what the story was, and he told me that they were Guatemalans, and not legal.
I told him to leave: take his materials with him, and to NOT return. nojoke

I paid a bunch more for the next guy; but you have to take a stand... :dontknow:
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How did you select that contractor?
 
Bob Denman said:
And we're the ones getting screwed! :gaah:
I had a contractor show up here, to put on a new roof. His employees looked... awfully new to the U.S.
I asked him what the story was, and he told me that they were Guatemalans, and not legal.
I told him to leave: take his materials with him, and to NOT return. nojoke

I paid a bunch more for the next guy; but you have to take a stand... :dontknow:
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Good for you. I wish I'd known before we bought our house, but then what are you supposed to do? We were buying from a big-name national contractor. Also, there are many Spanish-speaking guys around here who ARE both legal and really good workers, two of which clean my yard every month and are just the friendliest, nice, LEGAL Mexicans you could meet. I just think one ought to be able to rely on an American contractor not to hire the illegals, which was my original point about enforcing the law through those who hire the illegals (recognizing, of course, that many of them are using other people's SSNs and the employer always says he had no idea). You were lucky this guy was at least honest about where his employees came from. I wonder how often THAT happens ... Wyliec asked you a good question, which was how DID you pick the next guy?
 
Bob Denman said:
Holly may be onto something here...
But instead of non-lethal rounds: How about .50 BARs placed at 500 yard intervals...

...With REAL bullets! :thumbup:

My Grampa Denman used to have to shoot the woodchucks that dug holes in his hayfields. He'd set up early in the Spring, and dump a couple of them each year. He'd hang the carcasses on the fences, and it did a pretty good job of discouraging future trespassing woodchucks. :shocked:
How many illegals do you thing we'd need to hang on the fences?

Seriously: give them first-rate night vision capabilities, a spotter, and a 3rd person tasked as a "advance position look-out". That one would come out of the emplacement during periods of poor visibility, and let the gunner know who's coming to the Party.

Who thinks that I'm serious, and who thinks that I'm just joking?
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Would you shoot someone who is unarmed, and not threatening you? Holly and Randy you cannot answer this question :joke:
 
If you hang a few of them on the fences...

People die every day, and nobody gets out of here alive.

As for how I initially chose that contractor; the obvious answer is: "poorly". nojoke
 
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Bob Denman said:
If you hang a few of them on the fences...

People die every day, and nobody gets out of here alive.

s for how I initially chose that contractor: the obvious answer is "poorly". nojoke
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:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::firstplace::firstplace::firstplace::firstplace:
 
Bob Denman said:
And we're the ones getting screwed! :gaah:
I had a contractor show up here, to put on a new roof. His employees looked... awfully new to the U.S.
I asked him what the story was, and he told me that they were Guatemalans, and not legal.
I told him to leave: take his materials with him, and to NOT return. nojoke

I paid a bunch more for the next guy; but you have to take a stand... :dontknow:
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First off i would like to state all my guys are legal and on the books, now if an employer needs workers and legal
citizens don't want to work what should an employer do? in my area we would probably not have any landscapers or
car wash employees or used tire shops or roofers. i commend bob for standing up and saying no, most would not
want to spend more and that is where the problem is with hiring illegals, they work cheap.
Again i say don't give the employer the chance and he probably won't do it, don't supply the drug addict and he
may not do drugs. Give the illegal a opportunity to be legal, not easy nor cheap for him but give him the chance.

Now RINCON i don't think you answered my question of how many illegals you personally house, why are you
afraid to reply i promise you won't die or be injured in doing so.
 
wyliec said:
Would you shoot someone who is unarmed, and not threatening you? Holly and Randy you cannot answer this question :joke:
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by illegally entering someones property (the u.s.) you are threatening and we the citizens of the u.s. can not be sure
of your motives. DON'T TRESPASS, DON'T GET SHOT or NO TRASPASAR, NO OBTENER SHOT.
 
SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN said:
by illegally entering someones property (the u.s.) you are threatening and we the citizens of the u.s. can not be sure
of your motives. DON'T TRESPASS, DON'T GET SHOT or NO TRASPASAR, NO OBTENER SHOT.
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That doesn't answer the my original question. Are you doing what you accused Rincon of doing?

The question was based on what Bob suggested at the U.S. border.
 
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wyliec said:
That doesn't answer the my original question. Are you doing what you accused Rincon of doing?
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NO. But when you break the law you are threatening and if you are wearing clothes at the time i really won't know
what you might be hiding. Also if you weren't breaking the law why would i even notice you?
So is Rincon going to answer my question now?
 
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:roflblack::roflblack::roflblack: :clap::clap::clap::clap: :firstplace:

And the job is even being done for less money! :2thumbs:
 
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