Future of the RS

[latony007]

Knowing what BRP will do in the future is impossible at best

I do know that adding gold anodized accents here and there isn't going to convince me to buy a new RSS. At the moment however BRP seems to be content with only color changes on new RS(S) models and there isn't much any of us can do about that

Agreed on both points

 

[PistonBlown]

the riding position on the RS stock sucks. I dont want to lean over on the gas tank like im on a supersport. I think most people (me included) have put risers on them. I dont think they will phase it out too quickly and also dont think they will re-design it. it does seem obvious all the emphasis right now is on the F3. And they learned quickly from initial sales that the stripped not even a windshield model needed more options so this year we have the F3 T.

See for me the stock riding position and stock bars on the RS are perfect, actually the most comfortable bike I've owned - I do 'iron butt' runs on mine with no worries.

I find the sitting position of the F3 really uncomfortable (yes it adjusts but not how I want it).

 

[Rob Rodriguez]

See for me the stock riding position and stock bars on the RS are perfect, actually the most comfortable bike I've owned - I do 'iron butt' runs on mine with no worries.

I find the sitting position of the F3 really uncomfortable (yes it adjusts but not how I want it).

Agree 100%

 

[latony007]

Agree 100%

You guys must be young, have good backs, and be very tall

 

[Rob Rodriguez]

You guys must be young, have good backs, and be very tall

43, about 5'-8" Most I've rode in one day is 450 miles but typical ride is about 150-200. No problems, felt great after a ride. I can say I would like to be able to move the bars up and back a bit but I'm not sure the 1" BRP riser will be what I want and the aftermarket adjustable bars look terrible (my opinion) so I won't buy them. Why the bars don't have some adjustment built in from BRP is beyond me.

 

[latony007]

43, about 5'-8" Most I've rode in one day is 450 miles but typical ride is about 150-200. No problems, felt great after a ride. I can say I would like to be able to move the bars up and back a bit but I'm not sure the 1" BRP riser will be what I want and the aftermarket adjustable bars look terrible (my opinion) so I won't buy them. Why the bars don't have some adjustment built in from BRP is beyond me.

well im only a year older but 3 inches shorter lol. Agree with you on the bars and why no adjustments, would not have been to hard. And by riding position thats what im talking about is the bars, you have to practically lay on the thing stock. Maybe they thought they were going to attract a big supersport crowd to the RS Lol. I didnt love the look of the risers at first either but once you get them on they look fine to me, no one even notices that they are add ons. Its well worth it for the relaxed feel, made a big difference. That along with a new seat and i think i can make much longer rides without stopping every half hour.

 

[Colin]

1. Do you think the RS is going to be phased out or get a bigger engine, more "Sport" ? I would say no to phasing out or bigger engine.
2. If the engine remains the same what can BRP do to increase the performance? There is an aftermarket computer upgrade that actually gives you better performance and fuel economy, I have a couple of friends that have done an RS and an ST and have increased to 120hp and 128hp respectively. I will try to find out more info for you.
3. What are the chances 2017 will bring a re-engineered RS? How long is a piece of string?

 

[spydaman60]

I REALLY don't like the front end on the F3, that is the deal breaker for me.

can't see it when you're on the seat driving!!:roflblack::roflblack:

 

[PistonBlown]

You guys must be young, have good backs, and be very tall

6'2" and just hit the wrong side of the 40's

Backs still good but I've begun to hit the stage where the body takes a week rather than a day to recover from things

 

[PistonBlown]

There is an aftermarket computer upgrade that actually gives you better performance and fuel economy, I have a couple of friends that have done an RS and an ST and have increased to 120hp and 128hp respectively. I will try to find out more info for you.

Yep I remember hearing about that on the Spyderriders NZ site. The guy who posted said to ask for Jason at Waterworx in Auckland but I couldn't find any details for a company with that name. That was the ST that had the power increased to 120hp/125nm and the rev limit lifted to 10k.

 

[AMTJIM]

I wonder if he is using the race ECM for the Buell 1125 or ECMSPY to tune the ECM. It would be an easy power bump on the GS/RS since Rotax did make that Buell 1125 twin...150ish HP

 

[latony007]

Yep I remember hearing about that on the Spyderriders NZ site. The guy who posted said to ask for Jason at Waterworx in Auckland but I couldn't find any details for a company with that name. That was the ST that had the power increased to 120hp/125nm and the rev limit lifted to 10k.

would that stuff mess with your "Nanny"? not that i am that interested. i have a yamaha sport bike for going fast and if i even accelerate the spyder a bit the wife starts yelling at me lol

 

[ChrisDeck]

I'm new to Spyder's so bare with me. I've ordered 2 new F3-S Special Series and my decision was really made on sitting "in" vs "on" the bike. Personally I like the sporty look for the RSS however on a 3 wheel bike I felt sitting in would be better. The Special Series in Triple Black made it sporty for me and I'm likely going to order a set of rims normally offered with the RS/S models.

Is it possible that the decision to stay with the smaller engine is based on the safety of staying on an RS due to the seating and 3 wheel configuration of Spyder's? Coming from 2 wheels you have the ability to lean the bike in the curves where that really isn't the case for Spyder's. You can certainly lean out on on RS with your body however taking corners on 3 wheels is limiting. Maybe the next evolution of a sport model is something that has the ability to lean coupled with a larger engine.

I've never ridden an RS and just speculating.

 

[Peter Aawen]

.......... however taking corners on 3 wheels is limiting.......

Errm, NOPE!

No, it's not, as you will find out! :thumbup:

 

[ChrisDeck]

Errm, NOPE!

No, it's not, as you will find out! :thumbup:

Your making the wait even worse for me now!


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[Rob Rodriguez]

I don't think the smaller engine has anything to do with safety personally. It's just always been a 1000 and that's what they have kept it.

I'm sure some people here will yell about my next bits of info and say that I'm completely wrong but.....................my opinion is......

As far as sitting "in or "on". The F3 definitely gives you more of a feeling of sitting "in" and the RS is more sitting "on". That said, I'd say performance wise (power, handling, etc) the two are fairly equally matched. In my opinion both have about the same pull, quickness and higher end speed. I'd say safety wise both as also pretty equally matched. They both have the nanny and neither one will let things get to "out of control" before the computer steps in.

The big difference is the sitting "in" or "on" feel. I would say a person might feel safer or feel like they can perform better riding the F3 because when sitting "in" you don't have as much of the centripetal force sensation as you do sitting "on" like the RS. Basically, on the RS you feel like you're going to "fly off" more than you do on the F3. That said, I don't think that means one machine can corner better, faster, harder than the other. It just comes down to how comfortable the rider feels in pushing it harder, faster in the corner with that feeling of "flying off". If you have sled or quad riding experience then you know what the RS feels like in a corner and you're probably used to it. If you have 2 wheel bike experience then the F3 will probably make you feel more comfortable.

A leaning RS or and RS with more power would be AWESOME!

Congrats on the bikes. You'll have fun with them.

 

[blacklightning]

Someone here posted about taking their F3 on a closed course set up with cones. I have been thinking about picking up a used rs to use as a road course and daily driver. My mustang club does a lot of this type of racing, and I think it would be fun to do on a spyder. Especially after being pleasantly surprized at how well my 2014 rt did in the mountain curves.

 

[daveinva]

Everyone knows my broken record:

1. No to the 1330 in the RS. It's a fantastic touring engine, but there are better sport-oriented Rotaxs out there more befitting the RS.

2. I think a cheaper Spyder would do BRP well, and the RS is the natural platform to push the price down. Alas, performance/features would suffer if they try to do that, but the F3 and its large menu of expensive options might be the way to do it, i.e. the stripper model of the RS would be cheap, but if you want things like "pegs" and "a handlebar," you'll have to pay $1000 for them. :joke:

3. LEANER LEANER LEANER. There, I'm done.

 

[AMTJIM]

Someone here posted about taking their F3 on a closed course set up with cones. I have been thinking about picking up a used rs to use as a road course and daily driver. My mustang club does a lot of this type of racing, and I think it would be fun to do on a spyder. Especially after being pleasantly surprized at how well my 2014 rt did in the mountain curves.

Check local tracks, the bike night kinda thing is better for types that just want to wear some gear and try the curves a little rather than running all over following a circuit. They do 20 minute sessions and then clear the track for next group or a simply a rest if the crowd is small. A few different types we have is sportbike expert, sportbike novice, supermoto expert, supermoto novice and just a general motorcycle session. Crowd levels interest jumps all around. An EMT often can be found that also likes the scene and hang around for the night.

 

[AMTJIM]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZE5pWtkrXXo&feature=youtu.be