Fuel vapors! Still....

[cyclerider]

I am sorry to say that your fuel is probably going to boil regardless of what you do. You may be able to reduce the severity and frequency. But you're most likely never going to eliminate it.

It's not a boiling fuel issue, per-say. The fuel in my Spyder boils at times. And so it is with probably every other Spyder, and most, if not all motorcycles. I understand that people are horrified by the idea. But only because they have no idea how common it is. Yet escaping vapors are not a problem on most Spyders, even so.

You should have no vapors escaping whether or not the fuel is boiling. But fuel vapors will be generated in the fuel tank whether or not the fuel is boiling. Concentrate on controlling the vapors and you will find your solution. Insulating the fuel tank from exhaust and engine heat will help. But it will not completely resolve the problem.

Thanks for the input. But this is not exactly my first rodeo! I have owned many bikes over many years, and have NEVER experienced fuel vapor like this. Other than maybe riding a friends Buell. But it was not as bad. Well... If this is what it is, then I will just reduce it as much as possible. One last time at the new dealer and I will just do what I can after that. Are you saying even the newer RT Spyders boil the fuel on occasion?

I just spoke with BRP and they opened and closed my case in 2 days. They told me they left a message on my phone advising me to go to another dealer. LIES! Never got a message.

 

[cyclerider]

Then don't. I was simply trying to help with an easy, cheap solution.

Personally, I'd rather not have a garage fuel of fuel vapors - and if that means adding some gas to my tank, so be it. It is simple to do and my garage doesn't stink of gas fumes.

Nothing personal. I appreciate any advice I can get. But what about situations like stopping in any parking lot and someone decides to flick a cigarette butt under the Spyder, while the bike is pouring fuel vapor out? I am just so taken back that a machine with this price tag is not better engineered. Thanks for all the input from everyone. I have some mods to do and some decisions to make.

 

[BajaRon]

Thanks for the input. But this is not exactly my first rodeo! I have owned many bikes over many years, and have NEVER experienced fuel vapor like this. Other than maybe riding a friends Buell. But it was not as bad. Well... If this is what it is, then I will just reduce it as much as possible. One last time at the new dealer and I will just do what I can after that. Are you saying even the newer RT Spyders boil the fuel on occasion?

I just spoke with BRP and they opened and closed my case in 2 days. They told me they left a message on my phone advising me to go to another dealer. LIES! Never got a message.

I do sympathize with your plight and I may agree to at least some of the points you are making. Everyone has a different approach.

Here is what I did.

Removed the vapor canister. Rerouted the vent hose from the tank. Blocked off the PVC hose. Zero negative effects and very inexpensive.

Removed the 'Spash Panels' from the bottom of my Spyder. Makes maintenance easier, engine compartment is much cooler, less heat on the fuel tank and less heat comes up around the front of the seat.

Wrapped both exhaust pipes with hi-temp exhaust tape from the front to as far back as I could go.

Put additional aluminum faced insulation around the front/bottom and front sides of the fuel tank.

I've had no fume issues since doing these mods.

 

[spydercamp13]

Heat Issues

I also had a 2013 RTS SE5 with "many" "many" issues. Boiling gas was one. My advice, keep a log of where, when, how long at a Dealer and the problem and "make" sure you get a work order every time you take it in. Don't worry about the cigarette butt at a gas station, could end up being your best friend.
I now have a 2014 RTS SE6, NO HEAT ISSUES!!!!!!!!
With the number of post on here about the 2013 models, I tell everyone who ask me about my spyder, that if they decide to purchase a spyder that I recommend a 2014 or newer. I know there are several 2013's and older models out there with no problems, but after having a 2014, there just isn't and older model that can come close to the newer 1330 engine.
GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[cyclerider]

Thanks to everyone for the advice, support and input! I believe I may have seen a YouTube video of the canister removal. I will be going to a different dealer to make sure everything was done properly, as far as the recall work is concerned. Then I will remove the cat, wrap the header pipes, remove the canister and apply heat reflective material. Thanks again!:bowdown:

 

[Bensonoid]

Curious

Just wondering how you made out.

 

[south GA Farm Boy]

fumes

If they put the new 2013 type vents on front right under each mirror, and did the fuel kit replacement, it should have corrected your problem! They did my 2013 RT Limited and it cooled my spyder a lot. My temperature guage run about 10 degrees cooler, my front panels stay cool, my glove box is very cool now where it used to be extremely hot! Looking at this forum scares me! I think I should have stayed with a Harley!!!! Good luck on solving your problem, there are some very smart guys on this forum that can help you!