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ARtraveler
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Just been reading on the 1330---it says PREMIUM UNLEADED--is this a must? I use regular unleaded in my 2012 RTS-SE5 and have had no issues but do use a fuel additive bought from my dealer. I am curious.
Thanks ahead of time on my education!
You are going to get answers that are all across the board on this one.
We have three grades of gas here in Alaska. 87, 89, and 90. All five of my :spyder2:'s seem to run best on the 90. I always felt they were a bit less "snappy" when fueled by the lower octanes. This includes 4 Rotax 990's and the new 1330 engine.
We do not deal with ethanol additives here, so I am talking straight gas.
When given a choice, I put the highest available octane in the tank. When I can't choose, I fuel and go anyway.
Mileage wise, maybe a mile or two less per gallon on lower octane.
jcthorne
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The engine as designed and tuned requires 91 octane or better. BRP states this on the emissions label under your seat.
That said, the engine does have protections to keep from harming itself should the owner use a lower quality fuel than required. Performance will suffer and its not advised long term. Using lower quality fuel will not immediately harm your engine. It will protect itself dialing timing back for the lower quality fuel.
That said, the engine does have protections to keep from harming itself should the owner use a lower quality fuel than required. Performance will suffer and its not advised long term. Using lower quality fuel will not immediately harm your engine. It will protect itself dialing timing back for the lower quality fuel.
jaherbst
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Just been reading on the 1330---it says PREMIUM UNLEADED--is this a must? I use regular unleaded in my 2012 RTS-SE5 and have had no issues but do use a fuel additive bought from my dealer. I am curious.
Thanks ahead of time on my education!
Use premium and save your money on the fuel additives. Its a wash. Their is a reason they recommend Premium and I will spare you the long desertation. You got to ask yourself--Spend $25-30,000 for the Spyder and then chinz a few cents a gallon on fuel when the owners manual tells you to use premium??
JACK
Bob Denman
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The engine was designed to run on 91 octane fuel...
It'll run on pretty much anything that you can get to burn, but it'll run best with the stuff that they suggest. :thumbup:
It'll run on pretty much anything that you can get to burn, but it'll run best with the stuff that they suggest. :thumbup:
Dragonrider
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My 990s sure loved Canada's 102 octane stuff....
BLUEKNIGHT911
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WELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!
BRP also recommends you use their BLENDED OIL in your 1330 Ace motor Spyder for 9000 miles ................and that's LUNACY ..........but that's about everyone's opinion EXCEPT BRP's.........Mike :roflblack:
BLUEKNIGHT911
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WHAT
..................I think you are confusing LOW quality fuel with a LOW Octane rating. They are different things...............................JMHO.......Mike :thumbup:
jcthorne
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True, there can be low quality fuel with high octane and vise versa. I tend to only use tier one gas, 91 octane or higher. My GT has a definite preference for Chevron but in the Spyder I cannot tell any difference between the tier one brands and all are 93 octane in these parts.
None of our vehicles get Exxon products, fuel or lubricants for business and ethical reasons. They are not a tier one gasoline anyway.
Trbayth
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First time I've ever heard that opinion. What do you consider a tier 1 gasoline brand?
Chupaca
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Choices choices..!!
for the difference in price why on earth would you not use the best you can. You can in a pinch use any gasoline. I ryde many roads where they don't have anything but 87...here it is good in other parts of the world the 87 is a very poor quality and you can't imagine the difference and their 95 is about as good as our 87. So keep in mind the manual is for all models for all countries so it will tell you to use the best you can get..just what I have found having used them all...:thumbup:
for the difference in price why on earth would you not use the best you can. You can in a pinch use any gasoline. I ryde many roads where they don't have anything but 87...here it is good in other parts of the world the 87 is a very poor quality and you can't imagine the difference and their 95 is about as good as our 87. So keep in mind the manual is for all models for all countries so it will tell you to use the best you can get..just what I have found having used them all...:thumbup:
Thank you
You weren't kidding---was great reading all responses, experiences, etc, guess I don't recall when I bought my 2012 that it wanted that 91 octane. At least the price of fuel has come down. That is nice, but fear it will go right back up when riding season comes back. Even though I have ridden twice so far this winter. Think the additive I was talking about too was to stop that stupid ethanol from destroying things. Such a farce we all were sold about ethanol. That stuff really cuts fuel mileage down. The Northern states are lucky many do not mess with ethanol. Learned that on a trip to Minnesota once. Thank you again to you and everyone else who responded to my original posting. :bowdown:
You weren't kidding---was great reading all responses, experiences, etc, guess I don't recall when I bought my 2012 that it wanted that 91 octane. At least the price of fuel has come down. That is nice, but fear it will go right back up when riding season comes back. Even though I have ridden twice so far this winter. Think the additive I was talking about too was to stop that stupid ethanol from destroying things. Such a farce we all were sold about ethanol. That stuff really cuts fuel mileage down. The Northern states are lucky many do not mess with ethanol. Learned that on a trip to Minnesota once. Thank you again to you and everyone else who responded to my original posting. :bowdown:
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OwnerOfHarriet
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What is a tier one gas? In our area the fuel is piped in to a distribution center -- all the stations in our area receive gas from the same refineries that are hooked to that distribution center --
the only difference is the additives they add to the tanker when it is receiving the gas --
Scooter
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Just been reading on the 1330---it says PREMIUM UNLEADED--is this a must? I use regular unleaded in my 2012 RTS-SE5 and have had no issues but do use a fuel additive bought from my dealer. I am curious.
Thanks ahead of time on my education!
Back in June we went to Kingston NY. In Florida I get 35mpg (1up) & 32mpg (2up) However when I went to NY pulling a BRP trailer I was getting 40-41 mpg until I started to head home to Florida. Even on the Blue Ridge PKY. I was getting 40-41 mpg the lower south I got my gpm got back to 32mpg I was using high test gas :dontknow::dontknow:
jcthorne
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Those that have met the tier one gasoline requirements.
www.toptiergas.com
Reading that site today, I stand corrected. Exxon gas is now included. I still will not use it.
There are very good reasons all three US car manufactures use Chevron gas for their EPA testing. Even though its not available in Michigan. It has to be trucked from Kentucky, the closest distribution point.
jcthorne
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In addition to the additives, the different brands have different QA checks on the fuel they distribute. Not all gas that comes out of the pipeline is the same, and it does NOT actually mix in the pipeline. They transport all 3 grades and diesel in the same pipeline and know where the cutover points are. Its not all the same spec.
OwnerOfHarriet
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After researching -- the gas in our area comes from refineries in the bay area -- it is piped to a holding facility where it is loaded into truck -- the gas made at Shell may go to Chevron, Costco etc. the additives for the truck going to one brand of gas are different than another brand but the gas could be from any of the bay area refineries-- they generally only pipe in 91 and 87 octanes and mix it to get the 89.
Roadster Renovations
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When I first got my RT last year I ran the cheap 87 gas and after a couple of tanks I noticed the power wasn't there as much and maybe a little spark knock on hard acceleration. Went back to the good stuff and have been running it ever since. It IS worth paying the extra cost. I cringe when I think of what long term spark knock can do to the engine. I think BRP got this part right.
jpbuch9309
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You are talking about saving what less than a dollar. please splurge a bit it will pay off in the long run
Just been reading on the 1330---it says PREMIUM UNLEADED--is this a must? I use regular unleaded in my 2012 RTS-SE5 and have had no issues but do use a fuel additive bought from my dealer. I am curious.
Thanks ahead of time on my education!
You are talking about saving what less than a dollar. please splurge a bit it will pay off in the long run
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