Orange Spyder Man
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interesting test ---- is it really necessary to run premium in a spyder ??? proven not necessary in a regular auto
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fuel mileage - performance -- reg. fuel vs premium fuel
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interesting test ---- is it really necessary to run premium in a spyder ??? proven not necessary in a regular auto
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Bob Denman
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On a 12:1 compression ratio engine: I'm happy to run the premium fuel.:thumbup:
On my 998 RT; I saw almost a 3 mpg gain with it.
If I had to drive what some of them were driving... :yikes:
It wouldn't matter if you poured kerosene into it; or onto it!
On my 998 RT; I saw almost a 3 mpg gain with it.
If I had to drive what some of them were driving... :yikes:
It wouldn't matter if you poured kerosene into it; or onto it!
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Pampurrs
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Interesting video!
Made me get out the calculator:
Throughout the years, I've averaged around 15,000 miles per year on my motorcycles (now Spyder). With the Spyder, I'm averaging 35 mpg, which means I'm purchasing approximately 429 gallons of fuel per year. With a savings of $.40 per gallon by switching to regular, I'd save a whopping $171.60 per year.
I think I'll stick to Premium:thumbup:
Pam
Made me get out the calculator:
Throughout the years, I've averaged around 15,000 miles per year on my motorcycles (now Spyder). With the Spyder, I'm averaging 35 mpg, which means I'm purchasing approximately 429 gallons of fuel per year. With a savings of $.40 per gallon by switching to regular, I'd save a whopping $171.60 per year.
I think I'll stick to Premium:thumbup:
Pam
Bob Denman
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Pam,
Have you ever run any fuel economy tests between regular, and premium fuels? :dontknow:
Have you ever run any fuel economy tests between regular, and premium fuels? :dontknow:
Pampurrs
Pragmatic Member
No I haven't. I have always used premium in my fuel injected motorcycles, starting with the Goldwing. When I had my 1977 Honda 750 and my 2009 Honda Shadow (both carbed) I used regular. I can't provide any scientific reason why, I just did.
Pam
Bob Denman
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With my 1330; I tried to test this early-on, and didn't get a whole lot of conclusive data... 
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Perhaps I'll have to give it another shot... :thumbup:
pps:Perhaps I'll have to give it another shot... :thumbup:
Bob Denman
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While :agree: with you; it never hurts to just check things out with some testing. :thumbup:
But since "Peace of Mind" also has value; the call is yours to make!
But since "Peace of Mind" also has value; the call is yours to make!
Pampurrs
Pragmatic Member
:agree::agree::agree::agree:
pegasus1300
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My Yamaha V-4s (Ventures and Royal Stars) were all 10.5 to 1 engines and they were perfectly happy with 85/87 octane. The Goldwing was the samr tho it did like nonethanol 88 to the tune of 3 mpg better. My Spyder however does not like anything less then 91.
Bob Denman
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:shocked: And your 998 is a 12.2:1 engine... even more squeeze to the slug! :thumbup:
ingramwc
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I run 90 octane non-ethanol gas normally, it runs fine. I tend to twist the throttle hard so my gas mileage varies a bit. If I am not around home I will put premium in it and I will try to run that out ASAP to get the ethanol out of the tank. I do not like ethanol, it has dissolved the gas lines on all my 2 stroke engines on my yard equipment. But that is a different topic.
Y'all ride safe out there!!!:spyder:
Y'all ride safe out there!!!:spyder:
SpyderAnn01
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On the Alaska trip premium was not available at most stations. I noticed no difference in mileage or performance with regular
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R.I.P. Dwayne
I will chime in. I have used both flavors in my tanks over all five :spyder2::ani29:.
All gas in Alaska comes from one refinery. Tesoro in Nikiski AK. Down on the Kenai Peninsula. No ethanol flavored gas here.
I do not notice a sizeable difference in mpg from one to the other.
My :ani29::spyder2: seem a little less "peppy" with the 87 octane regular--it might be just me--but that is what I see. Our premium is 90 octane.
I have also been forced to use less than premium when riding in outlying areas, and was glad to get premium back in the tank when it was available.
Just the observations of one person. Warning, Warning, Warning--your results may be different. :roflblack::roflblack:
All gas in Alaska comes from one refinery. Tesoro in Nikiski AK. Down on the Kenai Peninsula. No ethanol flavored gas here.
I do not notice a sizeable difference in mpg from one to the other.
My :ani29::spyder2: seem a little less "peppy" with the 87 octane regular--it might be just me--but that is what I see. Our premium is 90 octane.
I have also been forced to use less than premium when riding in outlying areas, and was glad to get premium back in the tank when it was available.
Just the observations of one person. Warning, Warning, Warning--your results may be different. :roflblack::roflblack:
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Deer Slayer
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no pockets in a casket!
With 12.2 to one, nothing less than top grade. I have seen too many engines with knock damage :yikes: Spend the money, no pockets in a casket to take it with you. :cheers:
With 12.2 to one, nothing less than top grade. I have seen too many engines with knock damage :yikes: Spend the money, no pockets in a casket to take it with you. :cheers:
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Bob Denman
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:shocked: I just realized something...
It was really nice to see an "Esso" station once again! :clap:
It was really nice to see an "Esso" station once again! :clap:
bmccaffrey
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BajaRon
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The 1st mistake he makes is getting fuel from a single hose dispenser. If the previous customer purchased regular, then he got a load of regular fuel before any premium was delivered. In a large fuel tank this isn't so bad, But he is getting no more than 5 gallons (if he fills that can).
Better to frequent a station that has a dedicated hose for each fuel grade. Especially when getting small amounts of fuel like in a Spyder or Motorcycle.
This video does have some good information. People tend to be the same with gasoline as they are with lubricants. A lot of opinions, but many times with almost no real understanding of what they are purchasing. Of course the manufacturers are much better at marketing than education. (1 makes them more money than the other).
It is interesting that they don't show you the numbers for Premium. They say it is 'worse', but if it were significantly worse, you'd think they would give you the number comparison. I get the gist, you're paying more for an inferior (in that car) product. But I'm thinking the difference was marginal.
But in the case of the Spyder, we are talking apples and oranges.
Of course your Spyder will run on regular. But if the ECU has to retard timing to keep the engine from knocking, you're losing power, efficiency and fuel mileage. You are less likely to need Premium in colder weather. More likely to need it in hotter weather.
Better to frequent a station that has a dedicated hose for each fuel grade. Especially when getting small amounts of fuel like in a Spyder or Motorcycle.
This video does have some good information. People tend to be the same with gasoline as they are with lubricants. A lot of opinions, but many times with almost no real understanding of what they are purchasing. Of course the manufacturers are much better at marketing than education. (1 makes them more money than the other).
It is interesting that they don't show you the numbers for Premium. They say it is 'worse', but if it were significantly worse, you'd think they would give you the number comparison. I get the gist, you're paying more for an inferior (in that car) product. But I'm thinking the difference was marginal.
But in the case of the Spyder, we are talking apples and oranges.
Of course your Spyder will run on regular. But if the ECU has to retard timing to keep the engine from knocking, you're losing power, efficiency and fuel mileage. You are less likely to need Premium in colder weather. More likely to need it in hotter weather.
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