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Front tires 175/65r15 do not fit 2014 rt

There's HEAPS of possible reasons for wanting to run different sized tires to the stock sizes!! For example, PeteOz mentioned one - availability; & besides, here in Oz we've got lots of .... errr, let's say 'less than perfect' road surfaces. The OE tire size doesn't give the rim much protection if you hit a rock or pot-hole, & the relatively low profile of the tire means rim damage &/or blow-outs can be a regular occurrence. Sure, you could ryde everywhere at 20mph to avoid that ever happening, or you could ryde only on the good roads; but seriously, we've got a pretty big country here, with many places over 100miles apart - and lots of sometimes marginal roads in between them with not much else around except phenomenal scenery & thousands of square miles of space!! So by ryding at 20mph you could end up taking 5 hours or more to get from one property to the next; or by fitting the next higher profile tire you could safely ryde at 50mph & only take 2 hours to get there..... and maybe make it between 2 towns in a day!! :shocked:

Then there's the heat of those surfaces we ryde on too - it gets hot here in Oz, sometimes VERY HOT!! High 40's is not all that uncommon, especially out in the wide open spaces we have plenty of, & that means the road surfaces can get hot (can even start melting!!) & your tires will get even hotter as you ryde. So, you need a reasonable air volume inside them to allow all that heat to be managed appropriately without blowing the tire to pieces or melting the tread off rapidly as the tire turns (compound is only half of the wear equation, tire size is just one of the other halves! ;) ) - smaller, low profile tires might work OK in the city & on smooth roads when you only hafta travel for an hour or two, but not so great when you are on a roughish road for hours at a time!! Besides, would you feel happy if your OE tires ONLY lasted a max of saay 5000 miles while EVERY OTHER vehicle using the same road (motorbikes included) could run slightly larger tires that lasted over 5 times longer AND also provided better ride, traction, & handling AND they reduced the previously mentioned risk of road damage at the same time??! Where do YOU draw that line? I wouldn't stand for 5000km, nor even 10,000km, so I've changed my tires and am achieving MUCH better tire life AND ride, handling, traction, noise, & more!! Then there's also the potential for gearing advantages, load carrying advantages, handling improvements in certain circumstances, traction improvements in a wide range of circumstances, and the list probably goes on (& on, & on!)

In fact, MOST OE tire sizes are basically a compromise size arrived at between the designers, the engineers, the tire specialists, and the $$ mob (& probably a few more too) all aimed at achieving the manufacturers best guess as to what MOST users will want/need from them - and very few riders actually want a compromise..... they want whatever works BEST FOR THEM!! And in tires, that often means a slightly different size to the manufacturers best guess, which can give them things like a different tread pattern; or maybe they want a wider tire for better traction in the dry (& possibly better traction at lower pressures in the wet too!); possibly they want a narrower tire for greater 'penetration' thru surface mud & goop (orright, not many of us are likely to want that); or a little taller for longer legs & higher top speeds; or potentially a slightly shorter tire for better acceleration outta the hole - the point is, MOST ryders want their Spyder to suit THEIR wants & needs a little better than just the manufacturers best guess at what will make most of the potential buyers out there think they'll buy one of them....

But if you want to ride on the manufacturers best guess at what will suit you & every other potential rider out there, that's fine - but like most people, I want MY ryde to suit ME! And that means there's now a couple of different gauges in the holes on the dash; a different seat to the stock seat the Spyder left the factory with; better shocks & different spring rates; even a firmer stabiliser than the OE gear; and not so surprisingly to me, it means running different tires to the POS excuses that my Spyder left the factory with, & for a variety of reasons, the tires I chose are not exactly the same size as the OE spec tires - but they work very well at doing what I want/need from them! :thumbup:
 
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I'm sorry to have offended you guys. Buy whatever tires you want and keep writing your long posts about your theories. I'll be out putting real miles on my Spyder tires while y'all are just talking about which ones to buy.
 
No worries Ann, after wearing ALL THREE of the OE Kenda crap tires on my 2013 RT out in less than 5000 miles of pretty gentle ryding here in Aus, (& they were REALLY worn out too - I thought I might just make it home once the wear bars appeared but the 400 mile trip home saw the canvas coming thru!!) I swapped to better & slightly larger readily available car tire alternatives almost 30,000 miles ago & that first replacement set of tires are still on there & still going strong! :thumbup:

And I don't hafta worry about the dangerous lack of traction or abysmal wet weather road holding the Kendas gave me on our Aussie roads either - these replacements are waaaayyyyy ahead of the Kendas in all respects & stick like the proverbial to a blanket in all conditions! :D

So I may not have done quite the miles you have, but for a disabled veteran who's spent close to more time in hospital than ryding over the 3 years or so since I bought my Spyder, I haven't done too badly - and aside from the first 5000 miles, I haven't had to worry about running crap tires on my Spyder either - but I have looked at a few of those tires for others & seriously, I reckon you'd be gob-smacked if you saw how poorly & inconsistently those OE things you are running on are made!! Sure, some might get lucky & get this weeks 'good tire' as it comes off their production line, but it looks like being pretty poor odds for most, & personally, I'm not prepared to risk my life on crap like them!! :shocked:
 
No worries Ann, after wearing ALL THREE of the OE Kenda crap tires on my 2013 RT out in less than 5000 miles of pretty gentle ryding here in Aus, (& they were REALLY worn out too - I thought I might just make it home once the wear bars appeared but the 400 mile trip home saw the canvas coming thru!!) I swapped to better & slightly larger readily available car tire alternatives almost 30,000 miles ago & that first replacement set of tires are still on there & still going strong! :thumbup:

And I don't hafta worry about the dangerous lack of traction or abysmal wet weather road holding the Kendas gave me on our Aussie roads either - these replacements are waaaayyyyy ahead of the Kendas in all respects & stick like the proverbial to a blanket in all conditions! :D

So I may not have done quite the miles you have, but for a disabled veteran who's spent close to more time in hospital than ryding over the 3 years or so since I bought my Spyder, I haven't done too badly - and aside from the first 5000 miles, I haven't had to worry about running crap tires on my Spyder either - but I have looked at a few of those tires for others & seriously, I reckon you'd be gob-smacked if you saw how poorly & inconsistently those OE things you are running on are made!! Sure, some might get lucky & get this weeks 'good tire' as it comes off their production line, but it looks like being pretty poor odds for most, & personally, I'm not prepared to risk my life on crap like them!! :shocked:

With the miles she has logged, and based on posts I have read from this woman, she has tried and tested many brands and models of tires. The likelihood she is running stock is there, but I doubt it.
 
I'm sorry, I did have more around that phrase only I edited it out before posting - I had sorta intended it to be a general statement aimed at those who don't ever think about what they are running in the way of tires & just stick with the OE tires just because.... but I can see that I took out too much & I could've re-worded that particular phrase a whole lot better to more clearly make the point I wanted to get across. :sour:

Point still holds tho, Kenda tires aren't the greatest of tires around & going by their performance in the real world, there appears to be whole lot of worrying inconsistencies in their quality control & general construction that WE (the owners & ryders) end up paying for & running the risks with/about - yet almost any quality car tire is better constructed & more stringently tested to make sure none of that happens..... :shocked: So I stand by what I meant: .....seriously, I reckon anyone'd be gob-smacked if they saw how poorly & inconsistently those OE things that some people are still running & BRP is still trying to foist off on us are made!! :yikes:
 
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Hi Peter!
Thanks for the essay! :thumbup:
But I hope you're aware of the fact that NO manufacturer can ever cover all of the possibilities. They shoot for the largest percentile that they can cover, and let the chips fall... :dontknow:
You guys have lots of heat, and cruddy roads: that's not the case in an awful lot of the rest of the World.
I'm pretty sure that the fella who re-ignited this blaze, lives in Arizona... The heat that he encounters might be similar to yours... but we have never heard of a tire melting off of a rim in the U.S.A.
(You could always stick with 2012 or older Spyders, and keep the 14" front wheels! (65, vs. 55 profile...)
 
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Part of that may be true Bob, (the essay bit especially - I can do them real easy!) but the heat issue is only a small part of the overall problem & as mentioned, it's generally readily resolved by choosing to run a better quality & slightly larger sized tire. The more serious things that most other tire manufacturers ALREADY avoid are those like the misaligned belt laying, overlapping belt start & end points, the inconsistent tread or ply thicknesses, & a whole lot more of the very basics of 'good' tire construction lacking in the Kendas that are far more worrying - they are the things that contribute daily to poor balancing, uneven wear, lack of direction control & stability, lumps in the tread, bulges in the sidewalls & all those other issues that we see reported here & may well contribute to those potentially serious safety, ride, & handling issues that seem to plague at least some of our Spyders! And while it seems that a far higher percentage of Kenda tires leave their factory with these FAULTS than leave just about any other tire manufacturer's factory, BRP continues to do nothing about that - surely that means they are failing in their duty of care to buyers of their product to do something about it? And yet they even go so far as to make it difficult for US to do something about improving the safety & handling of our Syders ourselves!! So far, I believe they've been extremely lucky not to have a major failure occur that has been directly attributed to the poor quality tires, but the odds are not in their favour & it's becoming more & more likely that someone is going to end up seriously injured with every mile that's travelled on some these potentially dangerous tires! :sour:

What's it going to take to get BRP to do something about this problem; heck, even just recognising that some car tires CAN be safer & better than the Kenda crap & endorsing them for after market fitting would be a start?!? Maybe it'll take so many fires that they just CAN'T ignore the ongoing complaints & concerns?? Oh, sorry, that was the last issue that they tried to ignore which eventually cost them - I meant 'so many faulty tires'..... :shocked:
 
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Hi Peter!
Thanks for the essay! :thumbup:
But I hope you're aware of the fact that NO manufacturer can ever cover all of the possibilities. They shoot for the largest percentile that they can cover, and let the chips fall... :dontknow:
You guys have lots of heat, and cruddy roads: that's not the case in an awful lot of the rest of the World.
I'm pretty sure that the fella who re-ignited this blaze, lives in Arizona... The heat that he encounters might be similar to yours... but we have never heard of a tire melting off of a rim in the U.S.A.
(You could always stick with 2012 or older Spyders, and keep the 14" front wheels! (65, vs. 55 profile...)

Yes I do live in AZ.No I did not start ablaze. You and Ann started that with your comments. I was setting out toget the latests and best tire that would fit my ride. .Ann did try to help but her tire of suggestion is no longer made.This is an open forum to talk about what ever one wants. If
You are bored about a subject I suggest you skipi over it, instead of feeling you need to reply to every post.
I think if you look you post once to 3 times on every post on the forum.
 
Not an essay

Part of that may be true Bob, (the essay bit especially - I can do them real easy!) but the heat issue is only a small part of the overall problem & as mentioned, it's generally readily resolved by choosing to run a better quality & slightly larger sized tire. The more serious things that most other tire manufacturers ALREADY avoid are those like the misaligned belt laying, overlapping belt start & end points, the inconsistent tread or ply thicknesses, & a whole lot more of the very basics of 'good' tire construction lacking in the Kendas that are far more worrying - they are the things that contribute daily to poor balancing, uneven wear, lack of direction control & stability, lumps in the tread, bulges in the sidewalls & all those other issues that we see reported here & may well contribute to those potentially serious safety, ride, & handling issues that seem to plague at least some of our Spyders! And while it seems that a far higher percentage of Kenda tires leave their factory with these FAULTS than leave just about any other tire manufacturer's factory, BRP continues to do nothing about that - surely that means they are failing in their duty of care to buyers of their product to do something about it? And yet they even go so far as to make it difficult for US to do something about improving the safety & handling of our Syders ourselves!! So far, I believe they've been extremely lucky not to have a major failure occur that has been directly attributed to the poor quality tires, but the odds are not in their favour & it's becoming more & more likely that someone is going to end up seriously injured with every mile that's travelled on some these potentially dangerous tires! :sour:

What's it going to take to get BRP to do something about this problem; heck, even just recognising that some car tires CAN be safer & better than the Kenda crap & endorsing them for after market fitting would be a start?!? Maybe it'll take so many fires that they just CAN'T ignore the ongoing complaints & concerns?? Oh, sorry, that was the last issue that they tried to ignore which eventually cost them - I meant 'so many faulty tires'..... :shocked:
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Peter I thank you for your replies they informed me a lot about tires.I was trying to find a safe tire. That fit or uncommonsize.I do not understand why some people make their comments.so I just wanted to thank you for your positive replying.
 
There are alot of thread about tires around, some very informational and some that go off the rails. I thought I saw it somewhere once, maybe it was even PMK that started it, but what be helpful is a STICKY post with a table for tires listing the brand and sizes that will fit the Spyder both front and back. That way one only has to go to the chart pick a brand they like based either on comments in that table or there own research and then have listed what sizes would fit whether OEM, undersized or oversized. Something like that may help avoid situations like here where someone tries to do what they think is good and finds out it doesn't fit. This could save others alot of time and aggravation? Something like:

[TABLE="class: grid, width: 800"]
[TR]
[TD]Year[/TD]
[TD]Brand[/TD]
[TD]Model[/TD]
[TD]Position[/TD]
[TD]Sizes That Fit[/TD]
[TD]Comments[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]'13 up[/TD]
[TD]BrandX[/TD]
[TD]ModelY[/TD]
[TD]Front[/TD]
[TD]xxx-xx-xx[/TD]
[TD]Soft compound, wears fast, great wet handling[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]xxx-xx-xx[/TD]
[TD]Oversize width but fits, great handling[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]BrandY[/TD]
[TD]ModelZ[/TD]
[TD]Rear[/TD]
[TD]xxx-xx-xx[/TD]
[TD]Only OEM size fits, lasts forever but not best ride[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Or separate tables for front and rear.

I know it would be alot of work but if everyone maybe contributed based on what they tried it would be that hard to summarize in a sticky table. Maybe a new thread with JUST THE FACTS to collect the info without a bunch of un needed commentary.

Just a thought.
 
Yes I do live in AZ.No I did not start ablaze. You and Ann started that with your comments. I was setting out toget the latests and best tire that would fit my ride. .Ann did try to help but her tire of suggestion is no longer made.This is an open forum to talk about what ever one wants. If
You are bored about a subject I suggest you skipi over it, instead of feeling you need to reply to every post.
I think if you look you post once to 3 times on every post on the forum.

I think that if you re-read my posts: you'll find that I never said that the Kenda was the best tire...
There are lots of others out there that are much better! :thumbup:
But not a whole lot of alternate sizes to choose from. nojoke

You just picked the wrong size; that's all...:dontknow:
 
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