FRONT TIRE ROTATION

[SPYD3R]

thanks...got it...so, if I want to rotate the front tires, I need to dismount the tire from the rim, switch rims, rebalance, and then possibly realign the whole thing. To my lazy bones this sounds like too much effort to get, what--maybe another 1,000 miles out of a $125 tire????

my total cost was $20 @ my local tire shop... they did the dismounting, remounting and balancing.... i usually get about 25 - 30% better wear when rotating...
your call...
ride safely, and enjoy the views.... hyea:

 

[gypsy_100]

Not Economical

As long as the tires are wearing evenly from side to side, there's little if anything to be gained by rotating them. The economics don't justify it.

If they're not wearing evenly, then there's other problems at hand. The rotating would just be a band aid while avoiding fixing the root cause.

 

[SPYD3R]

As long as the tires are wearing evenly from side to side, there's little if anything to be gained by rotating them. The economics don't justify it.

If they're not wearing evenly, then there's other problems at hand. The rotating would just be a band aid while avoiding fixing the root cause.

WOW...! ! ! :lecturef_smilie: so much negativity.... give me a break guys.... i'm retired and need to keep myself busy.... my intentions were to help and inform.... sorry to bother all of you... this will never happen again....
Dan P
Easley, SC
PS: what did i tell you Mike....

 

[NancysToy]

WOW...! ! ! :lecturef_smilie: so much negativity.... give me a break guys.... i'm retired and need to keep myself busy.... my intentions were to help and inform.... sorry to bother all of you... this will never happen again....
Dan P
Easley, SC
PS: what did i tell you Mike....

????? Differing opinions and other ideas are not necessarily negativity just because they don't agree with your ideas or approach. I don't see where anyone here was disrespectful. If rotating your tires makes you happy and keeps you busy, feel free to continue. For other riders the practice is mostly a waste of money and of limited value. The points made here are valid. Please don't take offense.

 

[Dan_Ashley]

WOW...! ! ! :lecturef_smilie: so much negativity.... give me a break guys.... i'm retired and need to keep myself busy.... my intentions were to help and inform.... sorry to bother all of you... this will never happen again....
Dan P
Easley, SC
PS: what did i tell you Mike....

oh stop it...I learned a lot. Now I have info that I didn't know I needed. I can now make my own decision. This new ability on my part is due to you sticking your neck out and starting a conversation. So you DID accomplish your goal of helping and informing. Thank you.

 

[szohar]

My tire shop did it in 20 minutes for $40, my dealer Motor Cafe in Sunnyvale CA quoted me $350 for tire rotation.


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[KX5062]

My tire shop did it in 20 minutes for $40, my dealer Motor Cafe in Sunnyvale CA quoted me $350 for tire rotation.


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$350??!?!?!!?!

Holy smokes!!!!!!!! :shocked:

 

[Highwayman2013]

Dan, do the math....
mark an arrow with caulk indicating the forward path (roll, rotation, turn) on the outside wall of each tire as they currently sit on your SPYD3R, and the wheel/rim with a grease pencil with L for left & R for right, we'll call this Position #1...
now if you remove those tire/wheels, and switch them from side-to-side... the 'arrows' will show you that they would roll (rotate, turn) in the opposite direction now, Position #2... if you now remove the tire from the wheel, and have them remounted with the 'arrow' on the inside of the wheel, now look at the direction the tire would roll when moving forward, Position #3... it will rotate, roll, turn, in the direction as they did prior to the original removal, as in Position #1... you NEVER want to reverse the direction of the roll with radial tires, NEVER NEVER NEVER.... :lecturef_smilie:

always practice good maintenance, and you'll be riding by those stuck on the side of the road that don't....
Dan P
Easley, SC

I have been rotating tires on my other vehicles(cars and trucks) for years and see no adverse effects from changing the rotation the radial tires roll in except for directional tires of course.

 

[AbNormy]

Broke down and bought some Futuras from PepBoys, and they vibrated at 62 mph, so I took them back for rebalancing, seems they'd put a LOT of weights all in one spot on both of them. I thought perhaps the tires themselves were bad but when I watched them rotate on the balancer, both rims appeared to be just slightly out of round. Anyone else seen this? Don't recall hitting any worse than usual potholes and always kept them correctly inflated so I'm wondering how? They did put less weights on them to get them to balanced don't feel the shimmy @ 62 anymore, now tad around 42. Had Mike do the Laser Align at srwillis a few months ago....


Living the dream while I still can!

 

[Dan McNally]

To rotate, or not? Opinion here differs as much as in which oil to use! :gaah: opcorn:

 

[flybuddy]

Broke down and bought some Futuras from PepBoys, and they vibrated at 62 mph, so I took them back for rebalancing, seems they'd put a LOT of weights all in one spot on both of them. I thought perhaps the tires themselves were bad but when I watched them rotate on the balancer, both rims appeared to be just slightly out of round. Anyone else seen this? Don't recall hitting any worse than usual potholes and always kept them correctly inflated so I'm wondering how? They did put less weights on them to get them to balanced don't feel the shimmy @ 62 anymore, now tad around 42. Had Mike do the Laser Align at srwillis a few months ago....


Living the dream while I still can!

I had problems with Futuras, egging and cord separation. Always a rougher ride. Bought a set of 4 for Minivan, one would get a large bubble, bring it back, get warranty tire and it would happen again and again. Eventually I passed on the warranty tires and put on a set of Falkens. Van runs much smoother now. I put Generals on the front of the Spyder, very few balancing weights and very smooth.

 

[pickelhead]

I rotate mine every time I ride, round and round they go!

 

[Dan_Ashley]

I rotate mine every time I ride, round and round they go!

Do you ever go backwards, to unwind them?

 

[AbNormy]

I had problems with Futuras, egging and cord separation. Always a rougher ride. Bought a set of 4 for Minivan, one would get a large bubble, bring it back, get warranty tire and it would happen again and again. Eventually I passed on the warranty tires and put on a set of Falkens. Van runs much smoother now. I put Generals on the front of the Spyder, very few balancing weights and very smooth.

Fly buddy, thanks, what I observed while they had the tires and rims on the balancer was the rim appeared to be just a hair off, what I wondered if anyone else has seen this on stock 2012 rims?


Living the dream while I still can!

 

[NancysToy]

One caution to remember when checking cast rims for trueness. Cast rims need to be checked with a pointer or dial indicator on the machined surfaces only. Any cast surfaces may appear to run out, although the machined surfaces may run true.

 

[gypsy_100]

I have been rotating tires on my other vehicles(cars and trucks) for years and see no adverse effects from changing the rotation the radial tires roll in except for directional tires of course. ]

I agree. Automotive radial tires are to be rotated front-to-back and side-to-side, thereby reversing the direction of rotation as long as they are not tires with a directional tread, sometimes called uni-directional. The Spyder tires are obviously directional and so the direction of tire rotation must not be reversed.

Two resources for automotive tire rotation showing front-back and side-to-side rotation can be found here:
Michelin
http://www.michelinman.com/tires-101/tire-care/tire-maintenance/tire-rotation.page

Tire Rack
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=43

The exact sequence varies depending on front-wheel drive, rear-wheel drive, or four-wheel drive. If the tires are directional, they get rotated front-to-back only, not side-to-side.

Now, back to the Spyder... Rotate (via re-mounting and re-balancing) or don't rotate. The choice is yours.