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FRED RAU SPYDER CONTRADICTION?

you aren't kidding its long! i was hoping it would get pushed to oblivion, but you had to go and respond to bring it back to the top! come on, i have already gotten enough heat from starting this little fire.:yikes:

:thumbup: Some things are hard to live down. Trust me, I still get jabbed about a trailer malfunction two years later. :sour: At least the talk about my three wheeler mishap has faded. :thumbup:
 
:thumbup: Some things are hard to live down. Trust me, I still get jabbed about a trailer malfunction two years later. :sour: At least the talk about my three wheeler mishap has faded. :thumbup:

That memory is still vivid in my mind. In all my years, I've never seen anythign like it. There was so much about that incident that just was not right.

Matter of fact, I quite telling the story because people didn't believe me.
 
:thumbup: Some things are hard to live down. Trust me, I still get jabbed about a trailer malfunction two years later. :sour: At least the talk about my three wheeler mishap has faded. :thumbup:
I thought that you were teased about a tricycle malfunction. :roflblack:
 
Mileage Questions

Right now I am crossing the continent with my RT for the 7th time, pulling a trailer every time. My average mileage from all of these trips is 25.6 mpg. However, having kept fairly careful records, I can also say that the RT's mileage has slowly gotten better as the miles have piled up. From the first 10,000 miles to the 50,000-mile point, all averages have increased by about 12%, with the largest increase coming between 20,000 - 30,000 miles. My very best tank got 37.5 mpg, and my very worst, 9.6 mpg. Contributing factors include load, wind, altitude, road conditions, speed, tire pressures, and believe it or not, how high you raise your windshield.:chat:
 
Mileage

Forgot to mention something every RT owners knows already - the gas gauge is notoriously pessimistic. When mine first hits the red zone, I know I still have more than a third of a tank left. When the warning light goes on, I usually still have about two gallons in the tank - or at least 1.5 gallons. In my mind, I figure, "warning light means 40 miles until empty," and it has never failed me. I have ridden as far as 60 miles with the light on, and put 6.4 gallons in the tank, so I was REAL close to empty.
 
That is intresting. Similar thing happened to me last week. I went just over 40 miles with the light on (I was intentionally stretching it as an experiment) and put 5.3 gallons in. I don't know that I would want to go further than that, but it's good to have an understanding of how far you can push it. Given the RT is at least 100 pounds heavier (more with trailer in tow) and produces more drag than the RS you are getting pretty good reserve numbers, Mr. Rau. Of course my RS is somewhat modified which is hurting fuel economy. :D
 
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Forgot to mention something every RT owners knows already - the gas gauge is notoriously pessimistic. When mine first hits the red zone, I know I still have more than a third of a tank left. When the warning light goes on, I usually still have about two gallons in the tank - or at least 1.5 gallons. In my mind, I figure, "warning light means 40 miles until empty," and it has never failed me. I have ridden as far as 60 miles with the light on, and put 6.4 gallons in the tank, so I was REAL close to empty.

Interesting.

Chris PE# 0004
 
I'm real interested in your comment regarding windshield height. I assume you mean that when it's higher gas mileage suffers, as opposed to the possibility that raising it makes the bike more streamlined and more efficient. Assuming the former is true, it might be worth trying the smaller 2011 windshield on my 2010 RT.

I do get acceptable gas mileage. My wife and I rode 2-up yesterday and averaged about 33 mpg, but she's just barely over 100#.
 
I'm real interested in your comment regarding windshield height. I assume you mean that when it's higher gas mileage suffers, as opposed to the possibility that raising it makes the bike more streamlined and more efficient. Assuming the former is true, it might be worth trying the smaller 2011 windshield on my 2010 RT.

I do get acceptable gas mileage. My wife and I rode 2-up yesterday and averaged about 33 mpg, but she's just barely over 100#.
I will confirm that the higher the windshield is raised, the worse the mileage. The two biggest factors in mileage are speed and wind resistance. The vehicle weight is much less of a factor. Raising the windshield increases the frontal area, thus increasing the drag and lowering the mileage.

The smaller windshield for 2011, plus the reshaped, more angled lower wind deflectors, were introduced both to increase ventilation, and to improve mileage. I don't have a good handle on the mileage on my 2011 yet, and I may not be able to compare apples to apples due to performance problems with my old 2010, but the first numbers on the Rouge Rocket are beeter than the initial numbers were on my 2010.

Beside the 2011 windshield, an owner could cut down his 2010 windshield, or purchase an aftermarket windshield from ESI. Frankly, however, I would be thrilled with 33 mpg on an RT with Michigan gas. I averaged over 5 mpg less with my 2010.
 
Forgot to mention something every RT owners knows already - the gas gauge is notoriously pessimistic. When mine first hits the red zone, I know I still have more than a third of a tank left. When the warning light goes on, I usually still have about two gallons in the tank - or at least 1.5 gallons. In my mind, I figure, "warning light means 40 miles until empty," and it has never failed me. I have ridden as far as 60 miles with the light on, and put 6.4 gallons in the tank, so I was REAL close to empty.
Thank You sooooo much for that info. I knew the gas gage was a little wierd just didn't know HOW MUCH! had it replaced as the one that was with the bike fluctulated up and down depending on if I was going up hill or down and even hard left or right!!:gaah: Was a PIA!!! Sure will take her out and let her run out as much as I can and still get to a gas station. Or carry a little can in the frunk. Or both. Thanks again.:2thumbs:
 
I will confirm that the higher the windshield is raised, the worse the mileage. The two biggest factors in mileage are speed and wind resistance. The vehicle weight is much less of a factor. Raising the windshield increases the frontal area, thus increasing the drag and lowering the mileage.

Thanks. I was thinking that the profile of the windshield might be more aerodynamic than my head and shoulders, so maybe I'd get better gas mileage with the windshield up. Guess the only thing better having it up is less wind and less wind noise.
 
Right now I am crossing the continent with my RT for the 7th time, pulling a trailer every time. My average mileage from all of these trips is 25.6 mpg. However, having kept fairly careful records, I can also say that the RT's mileage has slowly gotten better as the miles have piled up. From the first 10,000 miles to the 50,000-mile point, all averages have increased by about 12%, with the largest increase coming between 20,000 - 30,000 miles. My very best tank got 37.5 mpg, and my very worst, 9.6 mpg. Contributing factors include load, wind, altitude, road conditions, speed, tire pressures, and believe it or not, how high you raise your windshield.:chat:

:shocked: WOW. 9.6 ! WOW!

Prime example of why you can't just go by one tank when checking MPG.

I can say on my GS that adding the CHAD took the MPG down (as well as top speed) BIG TIME.
 
:shocked: WOW. 9.6 ! WOW!

Prime example of why you can't just go by one tank when checking MPG.

I can say on my GS that adding the CHAD took the MPG down (as well as top speed) BIG TIME.

:agree:I have the EVO 3 w/wings, [GS] It knocked off at least 4 mpg, I can get some of it back when i take off the wings in the Summer.
Top speed ''What top speed '':shocked::roflblack:
 
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