For those with left turn signal cancellation issues

[ulflyer]

For those of you whose turn signals usually turn the left one on when canceling the right one, please check to see if yours are like this:

Today I noticed for the first time that if you simply press the button to cancel when NO signal lights are on, it will cause the left signal to flash as long as you hold the button.

It works great for left lane changes, but at same time its the obvious reason many of us piss and moan about the left signal coming on when canceling the right one .

Are the switches made to do this? Or, is this a faulty switch?

Theres nothing in the manual about this.

 

[NancysToy]

Sounds like a faulty switch...or in this case a faulty multifunction control.

 

[Huddleston]

For those of you whose turn signals usually turn the left one on when canceling the right one, please check to see if yours are like this:

Today I noticed for the first time that if you simply press the button to cancel when NO signal lights are on, it will cause the left signal to flash as long as you hold the button.

It works great for left lane changes, but at same time its the obvious reason many of us piss and moan about the left signal coming on when canceling the right one .

Are the switches made to do this? Or, is this a faulty switch?

Theres nothing in the manual about this.

I've noticed that when pressing the button to signal a left turn, the switch does not automatically center itself. I have to manually pull the switch back to center. When I do this it cancels itself correctly after making a left turn. To the contrary, when I press the switch to turn right, it automatically centers itself. I thought it was just my switch malfunctioning, but since others are having problems with left turns, maybe it is not just me.

 

[Bob Denman]

:shocked: Is there any way that you could get a video of that? :shocked:

 

[NancysToy]

I've noticed that when pressing the button to signal a left turn, the switch does not automatically center itself. I have to manually pull the switch back to center. When I do this it cancels itself correctly after making a left turn. To the contrary, when I press the switch to turn right, it automatically centers itself. I thought it was just my switch malfunctioning, but since others are having problems with left turns, maybe it is not just me.

This also indicates a bad switch. It should center from either direction.

 

[RedBird]

turn signals

For those of you whose turn signals usually turn the left one on when canceling the right one, please check to see if yours are like this:

Today I noticed for the first time that if you simply press the button to cancel when NO signal lights are on, it will cause the left signal to flash as long as you hold the button.

It works great for left lane changes, but at same time its the obvious reason many of us piss and moan about the left signal coming on when canceling the right one .

Are the switches made to do this? Or, is this a faulty switch?

Theres nothing in the manual about this.

I was having a hard time turning them off too. Would go back and forth, driving the people behind me to blow their horn or laugh. :yes: Until someone told me to push harder. I have started pushing harder and they turn off great!

 

[jthornton]

I've noticed that when pressing the button to signal a left turn, the switch does not automatically center itself. I have to manually pull the switch back to center. When I do this it cancels itself correctly after making a left turn. To the contrary, when I press the switch to turn right, it automatically centers itself. I thought it was just my switch malfunctioning, but since others are having problems with left turns, maybe it is not just me.

My switch started sticking after getting a tad moist at SpyderFest. I blame it on a poor switch design. The switch is terrible. I should try and get mine replaced a few times under warranty to see if I can get lucky and get one that works properly.

JT

 

[DRTSB]

Sticking switch

Mine started sticking after I rode to Bangor from Ottawa mostly in the rain last week, I've been riding for many years and I know how things should work, I know that the switch was ok and it canceled without pressing hard on the switch, I now have to manually nudge it back after making a left hand turn, right is ok, I will bring it up with my dealer next week when it goes in for service, see what they say.

Dave :sour:

 

[ulflyer]

For those of you whose turn signals usually turn the left one on when canceling the right one, please check to see if yours are like this:

Today I noticed for the first time that if you simply press the button to cancel when NO signal lights are on, it will cause the left signal to flash as long as you hold the button.

It works great for left lane changes, but at same time its the obvious reason many of us piss and moan about the left signal coming on when canceling the right one .

Are the switches made to do this? Or, is this a faulty switch?

Theres nothing in the manual about this.

A friend stopped by with her '12 RT and her sig light works exactly as described above so I know I'm not the only one.

If we can, I'd like to get back to my original request as posted above.

 

[NancysToy]

The switch is a three position, momentary contact switch. When pushed to either the left or the right it should activate the cooresponding signal and return to center. When pushed straight in, it will cancel the signal and return. It helps to hold it in for about a second. It will cancel upon release. The biggest trouble with the RT switch is that the springs toward either side are softer than the one toward the center (unlike the RS switch which is the opposite), so it is ridiculously easy to nudge it off center when cancelling, activating the opposite turn signal. It is very sensitive, so activating the opposite signal is easy to do. It only needs to be a tiny bit off center. Until BRP sees fit to change it, you will have to learn how it needs to be operated. It is picky, and maddening, but it is all we have available. Very careful operation makes it operate correctly if it is not faulty.

If the switch does not return to center from one direction or the other, it is faulty. If there is no spring tension to one side or the other, it is faulty. If it is real touchy to one side but not the other, it is faulty. If it activates a signal when very carefully pushed straight in, it is faulty. If it sticks in any direction, it is faulty. Faulty switches should have the multifunction control replaced. See your dealer.

If the signal does not cancel automatically after fully returning from a 90 degree turn in one direction or the other, the steering position sensor probably needs to be calibrated.

 

[MidLifeCrisis]

Is there an electronically safe lubricant that can unstick these faulty switches?

 

[AZCowboy]

Defective switchs

Is there an electronically safe lubricant that can unstick these faulty switches?

Hey guy you can use stuff like CRC which is for electronics and you can find other stuff in most auto stores. It is a defect in the switch on am on my second one now and it started doing it. Bob

 

[Bob Ledford]

Try this

Hey guy you can use stuff like CRC which is for electronics and you can find other stuff in most auto stores. It is a defect in the switch on am on my second one now and it started doing it. Bob

Go to one of your music stores and purchase some electronic control cleaner and lubricant. You want a spray can with spray extension to get in the hard spots.

radio Shack is an alternative source

 

[NancysToy]

If you try contact cleaner, be sure to get the kind that is plastic compatible. It will say so on the label. Melting a control worth several hundred dollars won't make you happy.

 

[ulflyer]

The Svc Mngr agreed yesterday that mine is defective and I'm taking it in tuesday for them to have at my recurring brake failure code again...for about the 5th time....and the tech can have a look at the switch. Perhaps I can get a replacement that actually works as it should. One would think they would have found a supplier of switches that actually work. Perhaps a call to Honda, yam, Suz, kawa, Triump, Guzzi, as to who they get theirs from!

If I had my druthers, I'd like BRP to configure the cancellation device to work quicker so I don't have to diddle with finicky switches. My old '79 Yam worked beautifully....something like 15 seconds or 175 feet, whichever came first. Never failed.

My rant for the day.

 

[not2brite]

Failure to cancel: right turn signal

Regarding: "If the signal does not cancel automatically after fully returning from a 90 degree turn in one direction or the other, the steering position sensor probably needs to be calibrated. " I have the same issue, only on a right turn instead of left. Where/what is a steering position sensor? Is it an owner adjustment item? Thanks.

 

[ThreeWheels]

When I first got my RT 3 years and 25,000 miles ago I had a hell of a time getting the signals to cancel. First left, then right, then left again. We've all done that dance.
Sometime after about 15,000 miles, the switch seems to have "worn in" and canceling the signal is simple with a single push of the button.

I hope this is helpful.

 

[ulflyer]

Wat at the shop today getting my "faulty brake" light code fixed and mech looked at my turn sig switch and said he'd order a new one. Also said he'd done a bunch and sometimes the new ones are worse than the old one!!

 

[gypsy_100]

I've noticed that when pressing the button to signal a left turn, the switch does not automatically center itself. I have to manually pull the switch back to center. When I do this it cancels itself correctly after making a left turn. To the contrary, when I press the switch to turn right, it automatically centers itself. I thought it was just my switch malfunctioning, but since others are having problems with left turns, maybe it is not just me.

This also indicates a bad switch. It should center from either direction.

The switch is a three position, momentary contact switch. When pushed to either the left or the right it should activate the cooresponding signal and return to center.
If the switch does not return to center from one direction or the other, it is faulty.

I agree the switch is faulty but it also seems to be faulty by design. I'm on my third switch and it sticks after pushing left, just as the first two switches did. Each worked great for about a thousand miles and then started sticking. I'm not going to replace it again until BRP comes up with a new part number and redesign. I've simply learned to push it left and then lightly flip it to center so it will self-cancel after making the turn. My dealer has seen enough of these and replaced enough that he feels it is a design problem, too, but says BRP refuses to admit it so he doesn't expect any improved replacement switches to come out.

 

[Huddleston]

I agree the switch is faulty but it also seems to be faulty by design. ... I've simply learned to push it left and then lightly flip it to center so it will self-cancel after making the turn. My dealer has seen enough of these and replaced enough that he feels it is a design problem, too, but says BRP refuses to admit it so he doesn't expect any improved replacement switches to come out.

I do the same thing, but my dealer has agreed to replace it under warranty. He acknowledged that they have replaced quite a few of these already.