Flipped it. In need of cosmetic repairs

[Questions]

I unexpectedly took an exit ramp and was not expecting it to come up so fast. I was not positioned right and it threw me on the road and the trike rolled over. All is fine, except for a hurt shoulder and some missing knuckles. I got lucky that's all it was. It started right up and mechanically it appears to be fine. It just looks like crap now. I may go through my insurance. Thanks for everybody's concern and help...

 

[crazycanuck]

I have come very very close to flipping mine on some serious twisties. Well we were all riding the spyders hard and I forgot to shift my weight on this one turn and whoop, up goes the right wheel and kept going up but I got er under control just in timeray:

 

[BRPjunkie]

I unexpectedly took an exit ramp and was not expecting it to come up so fast. I was not positioned right and it threw me on the road and the trike rolled over. All is fine, except for a hurt shoulder and some missing knuckles. I got lucky that's all it was. It started right up and mechanically it appears to be fine. It just looks like crap now. I may go through my insurance. Thanks for everybody's concern and help...

So Spyder rolled over after you were off it?

 

[crazycanuck]

So Spyder rolled over after you were off it?

probably was in the rolling process while throwing him off at the same time:dontknow:

 

[crazycanuck]

I unexpectedly took an exit ramp and was not expecting it to come up so fast. I was not positioned right and it threw me on the road and the trike rolled over. All is fine, except for a hurt shoulder and some missing knuckles. I got lucky that's all it was. It started right up and mechanically it appears to be fine. It just looks like crap now. I may go through my insurance. Thanks for everybody's concern and help...

so you fell off and flipped while on a exit ramp? was the exit ramp not straight? how fast were you going? how were you positioned?

Just trying to picture it so it does not happen to anyone else

 

[Firefly]

I have come very very close to flipping mine on some serious twisties. Well we were all riding the spyders hard and I forgot to shift my weight on this one turn and whoop, up goes the right wheel and kept going up but I got er under control just in timeray:

While I'm sure you felt close to 'tipping over' - it's gonna take a heck of a lot to tip this bike over. I've had a front wheel at least a foot in the air - which isn't near enough to flip her over.

 

[crazycanuck]

While I'm sure you felt close to 'tipping over' - it's gonna take a heck of a lot to tip this bike over. I've had a front wheel at least a foot in the air - which isn't near enough to flip her over.

oh I hear ya but mine was going over no doubt, the curve was just way to sharp and the weight was not shifted. I learned that you have to be on your A game on sharp curves if you are going to ride hard.

 

[Firefly]

I unexpectedly took an exit ramp and was not expecting it to come up so fast. I was not positioned right and it threw me on the road and the trike rolled over. All is fine, except for a hurt shoulder and some missing knuckles. I got lucky that's all it was. It started right up and mechanically it appears to be fine. It just looks like crap now. I may go through my insurance. Thanks for everybody's concern and help...

Got pics?

How did you get the bike right-side up again?

Did the VSS not kick in?

I've brought a front wheel up at least 12" and the VSS cut the engine, hit the opposing wheels brake to bring her right back down.

Man - you must have really veered sharply. I would think the Spyder wheels would have straightened out after you were thrown.

 

[RoHo]

I have come very very close to flipping mine on some serious twisties. Well we were all riding the spyders hard and I forgot to shift my weight on this one turn and whoop, up goes the right wheel and kept going up but I got er under control just in timeray:

:shocked: :dontknow: :shocked:
Crazy,
When you did this, did you notice the VSS engaging. I know you can overextend any safety system, but if it is not helping then what good is it?
Roho

 

[crazycanuck]

:shocked: :dontknow: :shocked:
Crazy,
When you did this, did you notice the VSS engaging. I know you can overextend any safety system, but if it is not helping then what good is it?
Roho

You know I thought it would have kicked in but it was on a straight stretch into a very sharp curve, I shifted down with no brakes and it happened so fast that I did not feel VSS engage. The rider behind me said the same thing

 

[Firefly]

With the flip-over accident you really should have the dealer check it out for any other damage - never know if a weld has been weakened, or some other system jarred loose.

Who's your dealer-- have they seen the bike yet?

Considering how fast the parts can add up - I would think an insurance claim might be your best bet.

 

[BRPjunkie]

This is the type of accident that will have BRP adding a dead man tether to back up the VSS. :yikes:

 

[BajaRon]

First, I want to say I am really glad you are ok and it sounds like mostly cosmetic damage to your Spyder. That is the best news we could hear.

After reading posts by the few that have come off of the Spyder I'm getting the feeling that maybe the rider was not so much "Thrown", but bailed off. This may be a reflexive action and not necessarily a conscious decision.

I have gotten into this situation as well. In other words, take an on or off ramp in a sudden, unplanned maneuver. Something that you would never attempt on a 2 wheeler. Once I made the initial turn I was committed to the ramp even if it was a bit too much at the speed I was traveling.

Because you can jerk the Spyder steering quickly on a whim without the usual thought process, you can get yourself into a turn that you aren't properly prepared for.
I've gotten a wheel up in a smooth, controlled turn and it isn't all that disturbing. But in a quick, unplanned maneuver it tends to get the rider off balance to the high side which aggravates wheel lift (especially if the rider tries to quickly recover their balance/position on the seat).

The Spyder's great stability, cornering ability, and platform safely gives the rider a "Can Do Anything" feeling. While the Spyder is an incredible vehicle it does have limits.

My feeling is the Spyder will go much further before flipping than is apparent to the seat of the pants meter. This may be the same meter that is causing riders to bail (if I am correct on this one).

 

[jima1153]

Glad you are ok! This is a great reminder to us all that even though we have 3 wheels, these things can still happen. Hope you get her back together soon. PS I've got a BRP stock windshield that has 300 mi. on it. I switched to a chad. PM me if you are interested.

 

[pphantom538]

whew.

 

[trikester]

This is the type of accident that will have BRP adding a dead man tether to back up the VSS. :yikes:

As I've mentioned on this forum before: I'm surprised they don't have a deadman switch and are not required to have one. As soon as a Spyder goes on a solo run through city streets and front yards, it will be on youtube and laws will appear :lecturef_smilie: Especially if the throttle sticks - as mine used to.

He's lucky it went over, otherwise, after he was off, it could have run on a lot farther and possibly hit someone. I put deadman switches on both of the dual-sport trikes I built (see profile photo). AND I USE THEM WHEN I RIDE!

The switches are designed for ATV racing, where they are required in the racing rules. I connected mine on my TWTrikes through the kill switch and a coiled lanyard clips to a ring on my belt. I haven't done this on my Spyder yet but I am seriously considering it.

If he had this switch, then the sudden engine stop, as soon as he left the bike, would have brought the front wheel down and the Spyder would have stopped harmlessly, upright. :clap:

 

[Firefly]

I originally thought a dead man switch would be good too - but what if you raise a hand too far (adjusting your shield or whatever) and you trip the switch by accident? Killing the engine in the middle of the highway could also be bad.

No other street bike that I know of requires such a switch. I don't think it would have saved this situation from a tip over - still unsure how that really could have happened.

 

[bone crusher]

First, I want to say I am really glad you are ok and it sounds like mostly cosmetic damage to your Spyder. That is the best news we could hear.

After reading posts by the few that have come off of the Spyder I'm getting the feeling that maybe the rider was not so much "Thrown", but bailed off. This may be a reflexive action and not necessarily a conscious decision.

I have gotten into this situation as well. In other words, take an on or off ramp in a sudden, unplanned maneuver. Something that you would never attempt on a 2 wheeler. Once I made the initial turn I was committed to the ramp even if it was a bit too much at the speed I was traveling.

Because you can jerk the Spyder steering quickly on a whim without the usual thought process, you can get yourself into a turn that you aren't properly prepared for.
I've gotten a wheel up in a smooth, controlled turn and it isn't all that disturbing. But in a quick, unplanned maneuver it tends to get the rider off balance to the high side which aggravates wheel lift (especially if the rider tries to quickly recover their balance/position on the seat).

The Spyder's great stability, cornering ability, and platform safely gives the rider a "Can Do Anything" feeling. While the Spyder is an incredible vehicle it does have limits.

My feeling is the Spyder will go much further before flipping than is apparent to the seat of the pants meter. This may be the same meter that is causing riders to bail (if I am correct on this one).

This all goes back to what I've been saying for some time...you have to lean on this bike...BRP keeps telling people they don't have to but centripetal force is a law of physics, and BRP and the Spyder are not immune to it!

Like a two-wheeler and even more-so, lean forward and into the turn...you won't have any issues with your turns...sit upright and you risk problems...this is one reason as to why I won't get high riser bars...they raise your center of gravity and can make you unstable...you can't lower yourself and lean enough when taking a sharp ramp off a highway or some other sharp turn...

 

[Roaddog2]

First, I want to say I am really glad you are ok and it sounds like mostly cosmetic damage to your Spyder. That is the best news we could hear.

After reading posts by the few that have come off of the Spyder I'm getting the feeling that maybe the rider was not so much "Thrown", but bailed off. This may be a reflexive action and not necessarily a conscious decision.

I have gotten into this situation as well. In other words, take an on or off ramp in a sudden, unplanned maneuver. Something that you would never attempt on a 2 wheeler. Once I made the initial turn I was committed to the ramp even if it was a bit too much at the speed I was traveling.

Because you can jerk the Spyder steering quickly on a whim without the usual thought process, you can get yourself into a turn that you aren't properly prepared for.
I've gotten a wheel up in a smooth, controlled turn and it isn't all that disturbing. But in a quick, unplanned maneuver it tends to get the rider off balance to the high side which aggravates wheel lift (especially if the rider tries to quickly recover their balance/position on the seat).

The Spyder's great stability, cornering ability, and platform safely gives the rider a "Can Do Anything" feeling. While the Spyder is an incredible vehicle it does have limits.

My feeling is the Spyder will go much further before flipping than is apparent to the seat of the pants meter. This may be the same meter that is causing riders to bail (if I am correct on this one).

First I want to say glad that you are ok.
:agree:here with Baja Ron and Bone Crusher post:lecturef_smilie:

 

[Lamonster]

I originally thought a dead man switch would be good too - but what if you raise a hand too far (adjusting your shield or whatever) and you trip the switch by accident? Killing the engine in the middle of the highway could also be bad.

No other street bike that I know of requires such a switch. I don't think it would have saved this situation from a tip over - still unsure how that really could have happened.

They could do it like my tractor and put the switch in the seat.
By the way if they did I would find a way to disable it.