ARtraveler
R.I.P. Dwayne
Enjoy. :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:
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Flag and National Anthem protests
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And you had the temerity to suggest this argument couldn't be won ...! Au contraire, mon ami, Bob just won it with a big ol' YES!
ARtraveler
R.I.P. Dwayne
Pass the crow sandwich I guess. Hold the ketchup. :roflblack::roflblack:
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Bob Denman
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:shocked: Do you mean that we could have stopped this foolishness back on Page One? :gaah:
Yeah, we were just waiting for you to step up and tell us the unmitigated truth. But, no, you've just gotta go pussy-footin' around the subject for a week or more. Pure torture....
SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN
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it doesn't matter what others do, kaepernaki among many others in my opinion is disrespecting this country that gives him the
right most other countries would never allow. he can protest but he needs to do so on his time not that for which others pay for.
now if he & other players wish to pay the admission fee then they can do what they want up until then PLAY BALL.
right most other countries would never allow. he can protest but he needs to do so on his time not that for which others pay for.
now if he & other players wish to pay the admission fee then they can do what they want up until then PLAY BALL.
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IdahoMtnSpyder
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An interesting interview on NPR today about how it all began.
http://www.npr.org/2017/10/17/55839...tball-player-talks-about-take-a-knee-protests
Here's part of the interview with Nate Boyer, a former Green Beret and pro player with Seattle Seahawks.
http://www.npr.org/2017/10/17/55839...tball-player-talks-about-take-a-knee-protests
Here's part of the interview with Nate Boyer, a former Green Beret and pro player with Seattle Seahawks.
Fake news! So sad!
SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN
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i didn't know kapernaki served in the military. i'm sure he donates his time of which now he has a lot of to vet organizations. i was very
wrong about him. NOT
oh, i was wondering has kapernaki made any statements about players who beat wives/girlfriends, drug use, fights or any other things
that might plague professional sports?
wrong about him. NOT
oh, i was wondering has kapernaki made any statements about players who beat wives/girlfriends, drug use, fights or any other things
that might plague professional sports?
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Firefly
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EXACTLY !!!
Furthermore, the Supreme Court decided in 1943 that no one can be required to stand for the pledge... and this was before they added the 'under god' nonsense to it in the 1950's.
Firefly
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Straw man arguments.
Everyone has different issues that are important to them. No one can take them all on. He chose the systematic, unjust killing of black males by police. His choice. His freedom.
Rogue Hawk
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There are random incidents, yes. But you have to prove it with an unbiased source if you claim its systematic.
Bob Denman
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:agree:
Tragic: yes! :banghead:
Systematic?
Explain to me how this great conspiracy was hatched? :dontknow:
Tragic: yes! :banghead:
Systematic?
Explain to me how this great conspiracy was hatched? :dontknow:
Maybe he meant systemic.
Firefly
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Nope.. I meant systematic.
Blacks in America have been systematically oppressed since they were 'freed'. Jim Crow. Sundowner laws. Segregation. Incarceration. Police brutality.
Blacks are generally treated differently by police. They have a much better chance of being shot or beaten. If arrested they generally do considerably more time than a white counterpart does for the same crime.
They are not treated the same or fairly in general. There is plenty of evidence to support this.
If people seriously don't understand that, then they're in denial.
Obviously, I agree with you that we have a long way to go in race relations in this country. But, I agree with Bob; to say there is a systematic pogrom afoot implies a conspiracy. The Nazis' eradication of Jews was systematic; our mistreatment of minorities in this country I don't think is. I think there are pockets of bigotry and hatred and mistrust in the US - some of them quite large - but I don't believe there is a concerted effort country-wide to deny blacks or any other 'protected' minority their rights.
Firefly
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Okay... fair enough... how about widespread instead then..
SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN
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ok i would like anyone on here or kapernaki to tell me why there are no protests against the mormon church since in their bible it says
dark skin is a curse or evil or something like that. the koran has statements from mohammad calling blacks raisin head & that whites
are superior to blacks.
wouldn't this outright racism be a lot more important to protest and make people aware of? i'm sure kapernaki might have some muslim
teammates he should be talking to, and understand this according to the koran you can not be a good muslim unless you believe and
follow all that mohammad says.
the kkk and the very small percentage of police who absolutely are racist are a minute fraction compared to these 2 religions in the u.s.
dark skin is a curse or evil or something like that. the koran has statements from mohammad calling blacks raisin head & that whites
are superior to blacks.
wouldn't this outright racism be a lot more important to protest and make people aware of? i'm sure kapernaki might have some muslim
teammates he should be talking to, and understand this according to the koran you can not be a good muslim unless you believe and
follow all that mohammad says.
the kkk and the very small percentage of police who absolutely are racist are a minute fraction compared to these 2 religions in the u.s.
Firefly
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There's far more racism within Christian organizations in the USA than the Mormons and Muslims in the USA combined......
Also.. please go take a theology 101 class before posting about religions you obviously know nothing about.....
It's this kind of misinformation that is destroying America....
Pirate looks at --
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Indeed when you source of education is the neighborhood bar, and that is how you form your opinions, we are all in trouble!:yikes:
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