chillirider
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I don't care what anyone says no vehicle should catch fire because it sits 7 months. If that was the case I would have had to deal with a lot of fires when I was deployed. Thanks for your service!!!!
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FIRE!!!
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:agree:It's just well meaning people looking for easy solutions for difficult problems.
Like when somebody has a problem the first thing that is posted = Check your Battery! ,Wish it was that easy:shocked:
musicarcade
New member
I checked the battery- It's still there!:2thumbs:
:roflblack::roflblack:
Sorry to hear about the flaming :spyder2:. I hope the insurance takes care of you in a timely manner.
,,and thank you for your service!:bowdown:
bone crusher
Alignment Specialist
I agree with you that no bike should go up in flames if it sits, but while it is sitting, there is corrosion, rubber seals go bad, settling occurs, etc...this doesn't necessarily make it a BRP problem...
The important thing is that nobody was injured and that the bike didn't totally go up in flames...hopefully, the cause of this can be determined...
Smylinacha
Yellinacha
OK, I'm on break at work and our puters load things differently (not as good) as my laptop at home. I took a short Youtube video of it to show where the gas came out. I never took it on the trip cuz we didn't have time to pull the panels off and investigate it since we were running late. But it turned out to be a loose clamp - HDX took the panel off and found it and tightened up the clamps. Took this little video when we got back from our trip once we had time to look at it. Those clamps on the hoses where it connects to the fuel filter is what was loose. I believe it was the one on the right. Something that should be checked periodically I guess.
So here's the link (which I had to take off my Youtube account from my Droid since work doesn't let me on Youtube, email it to myself and stick it in here) Phew! :2thumbs:
Let me know if you can see it or not.
So here's the link (which I had to take off my Youtube account from my Droid since work doesn't let me on Youtube, email it to myself and stick it in here) Phew! :2thumbs:
Let me know if you can see it or not.
SpyderWolf
New member
It says it is a Private Video, and we have to be on your friends list. You may want to edit the settings to set it for Public viewing, if you can do that on the Droid.
Sny
New member
Not blame. Request for help from the company that designed and built it.
I wish that they could say "We know what it is and how to fix it and it'll never happen again" but I fully understand the need to investigate each case individually as there are many things that can cause fires.
Regardless of all of the rationalization and deep thinking, the requests for patience and cool heads:
The durn things keep catching on FIRE! :yikes:
This isn't bad gas mileage or a funny smell. This is FIRE!
Does it happen often? Nah. Could you burn down your entire house while you're sleeping in it? YEP!
Fire almost always results in the loss of something irreplacable. At the very least you lose time. At the worst...
It's kind of a serious thing.So anyhow, my plea was for BRP to find something, fix it, and tell us it's gonna be all ok. If they can't find anything to fix, great! Then these are just random obscure cases. Tell us about it! They could tell us "So far all cases of Spyder fires are on units that had not done the recall that reroutes the evap vent hose away from the engine/exhaust". That would be wonderful. But they haven't said that.
So far they haven't really communicated anything too clearly so it doesn't feel "ok".
Wow, ok, no more ranting...
BTW, Thanks for your service Marine! Hope they fix yer toy up while you still have time to play with it!
SpyderFun
New member
First of all, glad you personally are safe and this retired military member says thnx for serving. :2thumbs:
Now, am I hearing this correctly? That the mfg possibly built a motorcycle using parts that fail for, of all things, MERELY SITTING FOR 7-MONTHS? :yikes:
Q. How many of us in the Northern States own a lawn mower and store it for the winter? Should always expect it to catch fire the 1st time we go to use it in the spring and say, "that's normal because it's been sitting all winter long?"
A. HECK NO!
Q. Would any of us seriously bought, or even considered buying, a Spyder if we had to sign a waiver acknowledging the potential fire hazard of the product thus releasing BRP from any financial responsibility or injury? :chat:
A. I hope everyone said "NO".
I have personally spent well north of $30k for my motorcycle and accessories and if it catches fire during normal use, my 2nd call would be to my attorney. How is this any different than the automakers putting out a car with a faulty component (recall the fires without anyone being around; fires that caused the burning down of the owners home as well) and keept silent about it? In the end it never turns out financially well for them, especially if a death is involved.
We should ALWAYS demand a safe and quality built machine for the money we've spent for it - especially a product that DOES NOT catch fire thru normal use. nojoke
Or am I completely wrong in my thinking here? :dontknow:
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SpyderWolf
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First of all, glad you personally are safe and this retired military member says thnx for serving. :2thumbs:
Now, am I hearing this correctly? That the mfg possibly built a motorcycle using parts that fail for, of all things, MERELY SITTING FOR 7-MONTHS? :yikes:
Q. How many of us in the Northern States own a lawn mower and store it for the winter? Should always expect it to catch fire the 1st time we go to use it in the spring and say, "that's normal because it's been sitting all winter long?"
A. HECK NO!
Q. Would any of us seriously bought, or even considered buying, a Spyder if we had to sign a waiver acknowledging the potential fire hazard of the product thus releasing BRP from any financial responsibility or injury? :chat:
A. I hope everyone said "NO".
I have personally spent well north of $30k for my motorcycle and accessories and if it catches fire during normal use, my 2nd call would be to my attorney. How is this any different than the automakers putting out a car with a faulty component (recall the fires without anyone being around; fires that caused the burning down of the owners home as well) and keept silent about it? In the end it never turns out financially well for them, especially if a death is involved.
We should ALWAYS demand a safe and quality built machine for the money we've spent for it - especially a product that DOES NOT catch fire thru normal use. nojoke
Or am I completely wrong in my thinking here? :dontknow:
Some were thinking of possibly dry rotted fuel lines. I was thinking perhaps a mouse chewed on some of the wiring which created the necessary spark to start the fire. He has reported the vent hose extension has not been done on this Spyder. So, it could be a combination of vent hose and spark from somewhere. Of course this is all just speculation as none of us are there to inspect his machine. We will have to wait until the dealer looks at it and tells him what they found.
A normal occurrence? Definitely not. Caused by sitting for 7 months? Most likely not just by the sitting, chances are there is something else going on as well. The one that recently caught fire before this did not have the vent tube extension done either. So perhaps we are starting to see a pattern, and now know why that was added to the list of updates.
:dontknow:
From the picture only can't get the video to run, The fuel filter isn't held on with the stock clamps.
Did you change the clamps before or after the leak?
Smylinacha
Yellinacha
OK, let me try to fix it and I'll reload it. It's private cuz I have other stuff on there that is private so I made this one private. No biggie - the other private stuff I have on there is the new droid app - Talking Tom Cat - it is hysterical. It repeats what you say and I put a funny one of roaddog up but it is not family friendly so that is why I privatized it :2thumbs:. I'll go back and fix this one though.
Smylinacha
Yellinacha
OK, here we go I fixed the video
Can you see it now? I fixed the video.....
Can you see it now? I fixed the video.....
:2thumbs:
Thanks got it to run, The worm clamps are not from the factory .
My guess is somebody changed the fuel filter and didn't tighten the clamps.
Smylinacha
Yellinacha
We changed the clamps a while back - they were the crimp things. HDX put the better ones on when he did the purge valve thing. It was serviced for the 12K and I rode it after that, HDX rode it and it was fine. I went to ride it again for my trip and that's when the leak started. So they were tight when I rode it after my service. Must have come loose or something. I'm just saying things like this should be checked on once in a while.
Also it was in the garage during very hot humid weather - not sure if heat made the hoses contract/expand when we had temperature changes. Who knows.:dontknow:
But when I hear stories about flames on the right side of the Spyder, I think loose clamps or messed up hoses.
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Sad to say if the clamps are not tightened after a fuel filter is replaced, under pressure the line will drip.
Have found after many years of experience, have only a competent
knowledgable mechanic work on your machine, and if anything
was changed on the fuel delivery system, check the clamps.
This incident may well have been done prior to storage, and leaving the machine for that period oftime maybe softened the physical fuel
line connection.
Those of us who have seasonal equipment such as lawn mowers or similar, often learn from experience what to expect or not expect come the beginning of the gardenning and/or riding season.
Smylinacha
Yellinacha
All I know is if it sits in the hot steamy garage like it did before then I'm checking everything before I ride it again. I'd say it sat a couple of weeks because we had some rain, no time to ride at one point and it got real hot out and I don't like to ryde when it's in the 90's with 100% humidity. Spyder doesn't like it - tends to backfire in humidity. And it runs hot - well I'm sure it's normal for running hot but I can't take that hot air coming out of the vents on me when it's 90 plus out and humid.
Weather has cooled down and dried out. Hope it stays that way.
Weather has cooled down and dried out. Hope it stays that way.
Firefly
Active member
Sorry for the fire for sure!
Get the second update or do the canisterectomy.
While spurting gas is a bad thing--- remember that liquid gas doesn't burn. I've spilled gas plenty on really hot pipes and have NEVER had a fire because of it.
It's that :cus: Cansiter! Remove it and run the vent hose to the back away from any heat!
Get the second update or do the canisterectomy.
While spurting gas is a bad thing--- remember that liquid gas doesn't burn. I've spilled gas plenty on really hot pipes and have NEVER had a fire because of it.
It's that :cus: Cansiter! Remove it and run the vent hose to the back away from any heat!
bone crusher
Alignment Specialist
First of all, glad you personally are safe and this retired military member says thnx for serving. :2thumbs:
Now, am I hearing this correctly? That the mfg possibly built a motorcycle using parts that fail for, of all things, MERELY SITTING FOR 7-MONTHS? :yikes:
Q. How many of us in the Northern States own a lawn mower and store it for the winter? Should always expect it to catch fire the 1st time we go to use it in the spring and say, "that's normal because it's been sitting all winter long?"
A. HECK NO!
Q. Would any of us seriously bought, or even considered buying, a Spyder if we had to sign a waiver acknowledging the potential fire hazard of the product thus releasing BRP from any financial responsibility or injury? :chat:
A. I hope everyone said "NO".
I have personally spent well north of $30k for my motorcycle and accessories and if it catches fire during normal use, my 2nd call would be to my attorney. How is this any different than the automakers putting out a car with a faulty component (recall the fires without anyone being around; fires that caused the burning down of the owners home as well) and keept silent about it? In the end it never turns out financially well for them, especially if a death is involved.
We should ALWAYS demand a safe and quality built machine for the money we've spent for it - especially a product that DOES NOT catch fire thru normal use. nojoke
Or am I completely wrong in my thinking here? :dontknow:
Everything you said is nice, but it doesn't implicate BRP as being responsible for anything. Just because a bike catches fire doesn't mean it's the manufacturer's fault. Until the reason for the fire is known, it's pointless to speculate. Everyone is always so fast to blame BRP for everything...without any proof.
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