FIRE!!!

[mc2276]

Well, we can add another Spyder to the fire list.:gaah: I just got back from a 7 month deployment to the Persian Gulf. I reinstated my insurance as it had been in storage for the past 7 months and went to pick it up. On the way home, my Spyder was sputtering a little. Did not think much about it, but grabbed some dry gas and fuel injector cleaner to put in the tank when I filled it next time.

On the way, I pulled into a car dealership to check out a car. As soon as I climbed off and stopped the bike, a ball of flame :shocked: shot out the right side and started to grow.

The sales personnel grabbed fire extinguishers and quickly put out the fire. Which is a good thing considering that I was parked right next to the 2011 Mustangs on the lot.

I called the insurance company. They will be by tomorrow to look at it. Not sure what to do now. Can someone help me out....please?

 

[Smylinacha]

Sorry you came home to that! Guess your insurance company is going to have to take a look at it.

Mine sprayed out gas like a garden hose right when I was supposed to leave for a trip. Turned out to be a loose clamp on the fuel hose that connects to the fuel filter. Spraying out all over the place and onto the pipe is a fire hazard. No fire, turned it off fast once we noticed it. HDX tightened it. I never went on my trip with it cuz we were running out of time to meet someone and I had to hop on as a passenger with HDX but we pulled the panels off when we got back and that was the problem.

Wonder if one of those clamps came loose on yours?

 

[Sny]

Sorry to hear, hope the damage isn't too bad.

I wonder how long insurance companies will put up with this before raising the rates on Spyders to astronomical levels.

Just too many to be unrelated.

When I removed my cannister from both trikes, I noticed that the "hot" side had a white streak like a stress mark or chemical reaction. It's not very deep and it's very thick heavy plastic, but we both had less than 5k miles at that point. Just makes me wonder if we were fireballs waiting to happen.

BRP, help! Please? Find it, fix it, and communicate in a way that gives us confidence again.

 

[bone crusher]

This is very bad news but if the bike was sitting for 7 months, who knows what buildup was there and what happened once the bike was running, under pressure, etc..the right side of the bike has the exhaust system...perhaps the gaskets had gone bad...seals dried out, etc....who knows...why always blame BRP?? Dry gas and fuel injector were added...were they necessary? Could they increase the risk for exhaust issues?

I don't think the fire issue is as big a deal as some have been making it...it's now what, about 5 for how many thousands of bikes? And who knows the causes of each one? One cannot assume all the fires were due to the same thing until that is proven...

As far as insurance rates going up...yeah, they go up due to risk and claims...I would think the vast majority of Spyder owners haven't had any insurance claims...

This stinks that it happened and I hope they figure out why, but it may not be BRP's fault and people should reserve judgement until all the facts are in...

 

[Raptor]

This is very bad news but if the bike was sitting for 7 months, who knows what buildup was there and what happened once the bike was running, under pressure, etc..the right side of the bike has the exhaust system...perhaps the gaskets had gone bad...seals dried out, etc....who knows...why always blame BRP?? Dry gas and fuel injector were added...were they necessary? Could they increase the risk for exhaust issues?

I don't think the fire issue is as big a deal as some have been making it...it's now what, about 5 for how many thousands of bikes? And who knows the causes of each one? One cannot assume all the fires were due to the same thing until that is proven...

As far as insurance rates going up...yeah, they go up due to risk and claims...I would think the vast majority of Spyder owners haven't had any insurance claims...

This stinks that it happened and I hope they figure out why, but it may not be BRP's fault and people should reserve judgement until all the facts are in...

:agree: There are lots of potential causes for this particular incident. It will be very interesting to see if an actual cause is found and what it was. PLease keep us informed. I'm glad it wasn't too bad and that you are fine.

BTW, many, many thanks for your service. It means more than you know. :thumbup:

 

[Capt John]

Out of all the spyders that have caught on fire. Has there been a statement of cause for any of these? I may have missed a post on this subject. Just wondering if BRP has made any statement to any owner whose spyder caught fire. I know there has been a lot of assumptions...just wondering about the facts.

 

[Mo Lee]

After sitting that long there is a very good chance of fuel hose drying out and leaking, however I would love to know if the vent line extension was in place.

 

[SpyderWolf]

welcome home, and thanks for your service!

Sorry you had to come home and have a problem like this with your Spyder. There are many things that may have happened to it while in storage. Mice is the first one that comes to my mind. They love to chew on wires, and may have done some damage to your spark plug wires or something. Also, since you have been deployed for so long there is a good chance the vent line extension to the rear of the Spyder has not been done yet. The last one that recently caught fire did not have this done either, so it will be interesting to see if that is the case and we find a trend.

Best of luck with the insurance company, and I wish you even more luck in finding a good dealer that will take care of you and repair everything properly.

Semper Fi

 

[the nicko]

hope the damage isn't too bad :yikes:

insurance company fixit

 

[boborgera]

Dry gas and fuel injector were added...were they necessary? Could they increase the risk for exhaust issues?
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:dontknow:
I think he didn't get a chance to put the drygas/fuel cleaner in the tank before the fire.

 

[fastfraser]

Glad you weren't hurt and hope the:spyder2: can be fixed quickly. Please keep use informed as to the cause of the fire .

 

[Fire Joe]

First I want to say that I am glad you are ok, as others have said your Spyder can be fixed or replaced. Also welcome back home and thanks for your service.

Unless there were others that has caught on fire recently and didn't get reported, I think my Spyder was the last to catch on fire. Here is the thread about it.

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20861

Mine did NOT have the extension to the vent hose done and it was pretty much determined that it was the likely source of the fire. I hope they are able to figure out the cause of your fire and maybe then something will get done about it such as recalls, updates, etc.

I am guessing when you said the fire got put out quickly that yours didn't completely burn to the ground? Have any pics of it?

Keep us posted please if you can.

 

[smokster]

Sorry you came home to that! Guess your insurance company is going to have to take a look at it.

Mine sprayed out gas like a garden hose right when I was supposed to leave for a trip. Turned out to be a loose clamp on the fuel hose that connects to the fuel filter. Spraying out all over the place and onto the pipe is a fire hazard. No fire, turned it off fast once we noticed it. HDX tightened it. I never went on my trip with it cuz we were running out of time to meet someone and I had to hop on as a passenger with HDX but we pulled the panels off when we got back and that was the problem.

Wonder if one of those clamps came loose on yours?

My clamp came loose as well and was dripping gas. Should inspect every so often.

 

[groundeffect]

Very sorry to hear of this trouble and glad that you are ok !!

My clamp came loose as well and was dripping gas. Should inspect every so often.

Guys, I'm currently away from the house and don't have the shop manual PDF available to me...


Just wondering if someone out there that has access to the PDF (or scanner) could spot this clamp mentioned, circle it in a jpeg picture and upload to show others.
Hopefully this will help others to identify a potential problem and pay closer attention to possibly helping preventing this - just take a little extra care to be sure that clamp/assembly is inspected a little more frequently

This may not be the case in this particular situation, but having this picture that may have been the root cause of other fires would be helpful. Heck even a short post/guide on most common things to check for to help keep the gas lines and hoses in good working order, etc..., would add value. Just a thought.



Cheers,
Dean

 

[SilverSurfer]

Another Low-Density (but mortifying) Problem?

My regrets on MC's fire and the damage to his bike. I'm happy you're OK, bro.

From reading the thread, it looks like this has only been reported twice on earlier model GS/RS's?

Whatever the case, my RT's in the shop next week for it's 3K service, clutch recall, anyother tech bulletins Elka Stage 1+ shocks and a K&N air filter, before Spyders in the Smokies. While they have everything apart, I'll surely have them check those fuel lines.

Best regards,

Paul

 

[mc2276]

Will find out more on Tuesday when it gets to the dealer and they tear it apart. The vent line extension recall has not been done. I did not get a chance to add the cleaner or dry gas, so those did not affect it. Thanks for all your concern. I will keep you posted. The only pics are of melted fairings. I will post them when I can.

 

[hondaman]

Very sorry to hear of this trouble and glad that you are ok !!



Guys, I'm currently away from the house and don't have the shop manual PDF available to me...


Just wondering if someone out there that has access to the PDF (or scanner) could spot this clamp mentioned, circle it in a jpeg picture and upload to show others.
Hopefully this will help others to identify a potential problem and pay closer attention to possibly helping preventing this - just take a little extra care to be sure that clamp/assembly is inspected a little more frequently

This may not be the case in this particular situation, but having this picture that may have been the root cause of other fires would be helpful. Heck even a short post/guide on most common things to check for to help keep the gas lines and hoses in good working order, etc..., would add value. Just a thought.



Cheers,
Dean[/QUOTt

this one?mine was loose.

 

[Pilo]

Very sorry to hear of this trouble and glad that you are ok !!

Guys, I'm currently away from the house and don't have the shop manual PDF available to me...

Just wondering if someone out there that has access to the PDF (or scanner) could spot this clamp mentioned, circle it in a jpeg picture and upload to show others.
Hopefully this will help others to identify a potential problem and pay closer attention to possibly helping preventing this - just take a little extra care to be sure that clamp/assembly is inspected a little more frequently

This may not be the case in this particular situation, but having this picture that may have been the root cause of other fires would be helpful. Heck even a short post/guide on most common things to check for to help keep the gas lines and hoses in good working order, etc..., would add value. Just a thought.

Cheers,
Dean

Here is a pic that I took a while ago on the right side of my SE5 after I performed the canisterectomy.

The gas filter outlet connection always slips out like that, even though I push it back towards the filter from time to time. It stays in that position because it its held in place by the bulbous end of the filter connecting tube.

Will replace the oetiker clamp by a regular worm-type.

If the hose was dry or cracked due to the time the Spyder was not used, it could have easily slipped out due to the pressure of the fuel leaving the filter.

Just my uneducated opinion...

Saludos, Pilo

 

[Sarge707]

Here is a pic that I took a while ago on the right side of my SE5 after I performed the canisterectomy.

The gas filter outlet connection always slips out like that, even though I push it back towards the filter from time to time. It stays in that position because it its held in place by the bulbous end of the filter connecting tube.

Will replace the oetiker clamp by a regular worm-type.

If the hose was dry or cracked due to the time the Spyder was not used, it could have easily slipped out due to the pressure of the fuel leaving the filter.

Just my uneducated opinion...

Saludos, Pilo

Thanks! Good day to strip the tupperware and take a look around?
Sitting in a Hot Climate storage facility for the Summer has to be a possible factor.:dontknow:

 

[boborgera]

Here is a pic that I took a while ago on the right side of my SE5 after I performed the canisterectomy.

The gas filter outlet connection always slips out like that, even though I push it back towards the filter from time to time. It stays in that position because it its held in place by the bulbous end of the filter connecting tube.

Will replace the oetiker clamp by a regular worm-type.

If the hose was dry or cracked due to the time the Spyder was not used, it could have easily slipped out due to the pressure of the fuel leaving the filter.

Just my uneducated opinion...

Saludos, Pilo

:dontknow:
My fuel filter is exactly that way, Been like that for 2 + years.
I check it quite often, it seems tight enough?? ray: