Fire update

[Firefly]

You are a brave man my friend... or you just don't learn... which ever one it is, Have fun and enjoy yourself !
Cheers !

Considering he has over 100,000 miles between his 2 Spyders---- I would say he has learned more about owning a Spyder than just about anyone else.

No one has been hurt yet from a fire, and the fires have been pretty minimal in number compared to total units sold. Being aware of the possibility of a fire is good common sense.... being afraid to ride because a fire *might* happen is over-reactionary.

You have a much greater risk of a 'regular old accident' with your Spyder than you do one of these fires. We know of maybe a dozen fires, but far more have crashed, hit deer, etc.....

 

[WaltH]

You are a brave man my friend... or you just don't learn... which ever one it is, Have fun and enjoy yourself !
Cheers !

I am very comfortable with the thought that my risk for another Spyder fire is quite low. Mine was the first reported fire and we cannot know the exact cause. However, since then, we have learned much. There is good reason to believe the cause was related to the evaporative canister. My second Spyder has had a canisterectomy, and when I get my third Spyder, it too will have a canisterectomy. The procedure is quick, easy, and safe. I believe it is better than BRP's remedy, which was to extend the vent hose and improve the timing of the purge valve. As a Spyder owner, I can do what the manufacturer cannot do easily. To the best of my knowledge, the law does not require an evap canister in Florida. I recommend a canisterectomy for every Spyder.

 

[SpyderWolf]

BRP will likely pay the ins. co. off quietly since they addressed the fire issue with the evap can update. BRP might also say he didn't get the update done as requested and limit their liability in court. Anyone caught fire after they had the evap update?

This is the question we continue to ask, and at this point it doesn't look like anyone has.

 

[wyliec]

:agree:!!!



And it seems like such a simple question to answer. :gaah: :dontknow:

opcorn:

You may never get an answer if the spyder owner and BRP have made some type of an 'arrangement.'

I know a few weeks back when I talked to Carlo I brought up the possibility of a fire without the vent hose extension. One of the things he said was that he could not discuss another person's spyder problems.

 

[Dudley]

You are a brave man my friend... or you just don't learn... which ever one it is, Have fun and enjoy yourself !
Cheers !

If we live our lives in fear, we will never really LIVE. More people have been hurt from Spyder accidents than fires. I for one have never understood, or at least have never read any report, on why the fires have not been professionally investigated. And telling someone "you just don't learn" is a bit far fetched, IMO.

 

[wyliec]

If we live our lives in fear, we will never really LIVE. More people have been hurt from Spyder accidents than fires. I for one have never understood, or at least have never read any report, on why the fires have not been professionally investigated. And telling someone "you just don't learn" is a bit far fetched, IMO.

According to Carlo, every fire that has been reported to BRP has been investigated. Now, whether you consider that professionialy investigated is up to you as is believing they have been investigated.

 

[Raptor]

Well, typically a professional investigation is followed by an official report of findings of some sort and even an official release of information to the general public issued by the manufacturer or a saftey board of some sort.

Since this apparently has not happened I would venture to say that none of these events regarding fires have been proffesionally investigated. Certainly no concrete cause has been identified to be sure.

Bottom line here is that we are all left to keep on guessing. I would just say to all that we must stay vigilant, pay attention to the danger signs and make sure the update is done.

 

[Lone Spyder Ryder]

HUMMM

professional investigation (professionl) what!!!!!

 

[WaltH]

According to Carlo, every fire that has been reported to BRP has been investigated. Now, whether you consider that professionialy investigated is up to you as is believing they have been investigated.

My fire was reported to BRP (with pictures). No one looked at my Spyder after the fire, not BRP, and not the insurance company. I am absolutely certain of this. I had control of the Spyder until it was picked up by the salvage company (junk yard). I had an opportunity to talk to someone from the salvage company about a month later, and I ask if anyone visited the yard to look at my Spyder. He said no one had looked at it.

Perhaps looking at a few pictures is a professional investigation.

 

[Raptor]

professional investigation (professionl) what!!!!!

I reckon I meant an organization such as this:

http://www.nhtsa.gov/ among others.

The key here is how many of these types of incidents have occurred compared to the number of units produced. Does this number constitute a trend that warrants this kind of attention by said body?

I don't have the answers to those questions because I don not think we actually know just how many fires have occurred and were the circumstances the same in each case. For now we have to have hope that BRP will step up and take this a bit more seriously. We know that there was an update issued to help remedy the situation. Was it successfull? Do we know whether or not a fire took place after this update was applied?

There are many things that need to be examined before the panic button is pushed. This is of little comfort to those who have experienced the problem and I hate that it happened to those affected. But these are the cold hard facts of how the process works.

 

[OldDog]

Former Sabre Group Member

Look at my profile. I sold my 1100 Shadow Sabre last year. I'm hoping to possibly get a 2011 RTS SE5. I am uneasy about the quality issues.

 

[SpyderWolf]

Look at my profile. I sold my 1100 Shadow Sabre last year. I'm hoping to possibly get a 2011 RTS SE5. I am uneasy about the quality issues.

To the best of my knowlege, from reading everything I have about the fires posted on this forum, no RTs have caught fire or any 2010 Spyders for that matter. Many of us believe the extension of the cannister vent tube for the 2008 and earlier 2009 models was the fix for preventing the fire issue. That is why the question keeps being asked as to whether or not they had that update done before their Spyders went up in flames.

As with any new product line, there have been some growing pains; however, chances are the 2011 line will be even better than the 2010 line and your problems will be minimal. Best of luck to you when you decide to take the plunge.