FINIAL ASSEMBLEY

[bikeguy]

Do they have to plug them into the BUDS for any pre-delivery uploads?? :dontknow:

Bob, I watched the mechanic put my 2010 RT together when it came in but went to the office to finalize the paperwork just before he was finished. I finished the paperwork and the bike still wasn't ready. The mechanic had connected it to BUDS and had a problem with it. Turned out that a sensor had been left unconnected at the factory and it took them almost 3 hours to find it. I never knew exactly what sensor it was. So the answer to your question is that, yes, they do connect to BUDS, although I can't say for certain whether they perform all the uploads.

As far as the assembly being complicated, most dealers assign assembly to the newest and less trained technicians in their shop. I'm not saying this is true of all dealers but those I am familiar with do. In the mid-seventies, my wife was the parts person at a Yamaha/Honda dealership and my youngest son, who was 12 at the time, went to work there after school and on Saturdays. His job was sweeping the floor, cleaning up, and assembling new bikes. To be fair, he had been maintaining and working on his own dirt bikes since he was 5 so he was familiar with tools and mechanical processes. Still, he was far from a trained mechanic. The trained mechanics in the shop stayed busy repairing bikes and almost never assembled new ones.

Cotton

 

[Marker]

Do they have to plug them into the BUDS for any pre-delivery uploads?? :dontknow:

Dealership assembly is only part of it . The dealership needs to to program the spyder with any tuning updates, get it fired up and running and also program your personal information into the spyder computer for DESS. The whole point of DESS is if your spyder is stolen or any BRP product is stolen then you call BRP and give them the info about your spyder then they will program it into the buds system ,so that if your stolen unit is brought into a dealer for servicing. Once hooked up to BUDS the stolen unit will be renders useless and will not start until reactivated by BRP.

Also if the dealer gets any service bulletins he is then suppose to do the updates on the new units.

So that is why having a great knowledgeable dealer is important to having a great spyder experience.

 

[ARtraveler]

Now I am curious. If a short assembly is all they do before sending it home with the customer, then what is the big check off sheet for? Are they not supposed to put it on Buds and make sure that everything is properly working (according to the computer), and should they not test drive it for five to ten miles to see how it really runs?

We have had so many threads on improper set-up and the importance thereof. Did we transition, and I missed it? When a person spends that kind of money (here 28K+), they should receive a machine that is properly inspected and ready to go. IMO--something thrown together by a high school dropout is not something that conjures up good faith and pleasant vibes.

:dontknow::dontknow:

 

[NancysToy]

Now I am curious. If a short assembly is all they do before sending it home with the customer, then what is the big check off sheet for? Are they not supposed to put it on Buds and make sure that everything is properly working (according to the computer), and should they not test drive it for five to ten miles to see how it really runs?

We have had so many threads on improper set-up and the importance thereof. Did we transition, and I missed it? When a person spends that kind of money (here 28K+), they should receive a machine that is properly inspected and ready to go. IMO--something thrown together by a high school dropout is not something that conjures up good faith and pleasant vibes.

:dontknow::dontknow:

The PDI (Pre-Delivery Inspection) is an important part of dealer setup. They are supposed to connect to BUDs to check some systems, but may delay most updates until the first service interval unless specified to do otherwise in a service bulletin. I think that is pretty much a dealer choice...not sure of BRP's protocol. Assembly itself is relatively simple and not real critical. Many dealers have subcontracted that phase or used lower eschelon workers to do so for decades...not just in the Spyder world. The tech can then do the final inspection in an hour or so, saving his valuable time. Yes, there is room for error, but a good dealer and tech can do it right by this method. Test rides are difficult in some climates at some times of year. They were specified for a while with the 2010 RT's due to problems, but that was a temporary procedure. Hard to find anything but huge problems in a short test ride anyway...that's why the initial dealer service is so important. Who better to do the test ride and find the little things than the owner? I have advocated that owners spend the money for that first service for a long time. It should be much more than a mere oil change if done correctly. I think BRP should bundle the first service into the Spyder pricing, so everyone returns for that initial check-up. JMHO

 

[Bob Ledford]

Shipping

If shipping is figured by weight and cubic feet displacement methods like what were charged while I was a. Unit Movement NCO in the US Army you pay for the entire cube of space the unit displaces. So you would be paying for a lot of cubic feet of air space. When we had to move unit vehicles you reduce the height, width an length to the lowest point or feet and inches.