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Fault Code P0811

Turtlesplatter

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Just a quick PSA on how smart (maybe too smart) the Spyder is...

A few weeks ago, on our way home from a group ride, wifey was riding along on her F3. As we merged onto a highway on ramp, I looked back to see that she and another rider had pulled off onto the breakdown lane. I pulled off a few yards ahead and waited. After about minute (which seems like an eternity when sitting on the side of a major highway at night) I turned my bike around and headed up the break down lane (yes, going the wrong way :lecturef_smilie:) to see what had happened. Came up to see wifey wrestling with the Spyder trying to get it in gear. I looked at the dash and it was lit up like a Christmas tree..."CHECK ENGINE" was scrolling across the dash, gear indicator was showing "E", and what seemed like every other light on the dash was on (I think I even saw the message "We're going to shoot your dog!") and the bike would not go into gear. Not really sure where to start :dontknow:, I pulled the access panel and checked the oil level which was fine. After turning the bike off and on a few times, it finally went into first but the dash was still lit up. We decided to take that opportunity to at least get to the next exit. As we're pulling off, wifey gives me the thumbs up. I managed to peak at her dash and everything looked normal and we headed home...luckily we were only about 5 miles away.

After doing some research, I read a few posts about the TSB that was issued about the Gearbox Position Sensor and I figured that was more than likely the culprit. She was due for her first service so I figured now is as good a time as any to take it in. Took it toColeman Powersports in Woodbridge where I bought it (GREAT bunch of people down there) and they said they would look at it. They pulled her VIN but it did not show that her bike was not affected by the TSB.

After a few days, they called and explained what had happened...which is why I am impressed as to how much information the computer offers up:

Resolution:
ONE FAULT CODE P0811
CLUTCH SLIPPAGE DETECTED
3077 ENGINE RPM
5TH GEAR
29 MILES PER HOUR
BRAKE PRESSURE 50.8 PSI
TRANSMISSION WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DOWN SHIFT AS IT WAS UNDER LOAD FROM THE THROTTLE BEING APPLIED
WOULD CREATE A CLUTCH SLIP FAULT
RETESTED SYSTEM. WORKING CORRECTLY

It told everything accept what color helmet she was wearing!!

Basically, while going onto the on ramp, in 5th gear at 29 MPH, she was applying the brake while at the same time giving it throttle and had not downshifted. The bike pretty much was saying "Look, I'm going to put you time out until you figure out what it is you want to do!!" Dealer said that for it to do this is normal. It is just the computer's way of running scared/prevent any damage from occurring. Cycling it on/off clears the code and stores it away.

Hope this helps others.

m.
 
Just a quick PSA on how smart (maybe too smart) the Spyder is...

A few weeks ago, on our way home from a group ride, wifey was riding along on her F3. As we merged onto a highway on ramp, I looked back to see that she and another rider had pulled off onto the breakdown lane. I pulled off a few yards ahead and waited. After about minute (which seems like an eternity when sitting on the side of a major highway at night) I turned my bike around and headed up the break down lane (yes, going the wrong way :lecturef_smilie:) to see what had happened. Came up to see wifey wrestling with the Spyder trying to get it in gear. I looked at the dash and it was lit up like a Christmas tree..."CHECK ENGINE" was scrolling across the dash, gear indicator was showing "E", and what seemed like every other light on the dash was on (I think I even saw the message "We're going to shoot your dog!") and the bike would not go into gear. Not really sure where to start :dontknow:, I pulled the access panel and checked the oil level which was fine. After turning the bike off and on a few times, it finally went into first but the dash was still lit up. We decided to take that opportunity to at least get to the next exit. As we're pulling off, wifey gives me the thumbs up. I managed to peak at her dash and everything looked normal and we headed home...luckily we were only about 5 miles away.

After doing some research, I read a few posts about the TSB that was issued about the Gearbox Position Sensor and I figured that was more than likely the culprit. She was due for her first service so I figured now is as good a time as any to take it in. Took it toColeman Powersports in Woodbridge where I bought it (GREAT bunch of people down there) and they said they would look at it. They pulled her VIN but it did not show that her bike was not affected by the TSB.

After a few days, they called and explained what had happened...which is why I am impressed as to how much information the computer offers up:

Resolution:
ONE FAULT CODE P0811
CLUTCH SLIPPAGE DETECTED
3077 ENGINE RPM
5TH GEAR
29 MILES PER HOUR
BRAKE PRESSURE 50.8 PSI
TRANSMISSION WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DOWN SHIFT AS IT WAS UNDER LOAD FROM THE THROTTLE BEING APPLIED
WOULD CREATE A CLUTCH SLIP FAULT
RETESTED SYSTEM. WORKING CORRECTLY

It told everything accept what color helmet she was wearing!!

Basically, while going onto the on ramp, in 5th gear at 29 MPH, she was applying the brake while at the same time giving it throttle and had not downshifted. The bike pretty much was saying "Look, I'm going to put you time out until you figure out what it is you want to do!!" Dealer said that for it to do this is normal. It is just the computer's way of running scared/prevent any damage from occurring. Cycling it on/off clears the code and stores it away.

Hope this helps others.

m.

Interesting info. Its nice when the bike keeps you from doing damage. Thanks for posting!
 
I am ryding with my wife and I *think* I have her clued into the dowshift/upshift points. So, have you shown her the report yet? Not sure how I would approach mine in this circumstance.
 
I am ryding with my wife and I *think* I have her clued into the dowshift/upshift points. So, have you shown her the report yet? Not sure how I would approach mine in this circumstance.

Yes, I showed her the report. I softened the blow by telling her that "I probably do this too, it's just that my bike isn't smart enough to tell me." Which is kind of a fib since I rarely even use the rear brake on my bike, so the lack of my coordination on my part does not really come into play :lecturef_smilie:

Having to drop the Spyder off at the shop, showing her the report and her desire not to have to pull off on the side of a darkened highway again SHOULD be enough to make her conscience not to do it again. I have told her about the shift points (think I got the info off this forum) but not really sure if she sticks to them. I will admit, the few times I have ridden it (coming off of a sport bike) I think I am guilty of not shifting at the right times either :opps:
 
Curious. ....🤔

If an Se6 trans why did it not downshift on its own. I understand if it is a manual and I have forgotten to downshift a time or two myself...:dontknow: but the computers do store a lot of facts and figures. I usually get the performance rundown of how my rpms run on average. As of late 35% of the time I am running between 6 and 8,000 so one can not say I dog it..:roflblack::roflblack:
 
If an Se6 trans why did it not downshift on its own. I understand if it is a manual and I have forgotten to downshift a time or two myself...:dontknow: but the computers do store a lot of facts and figures. I usually get the performance rundown of how my rpms run on average. As of late 35% of the time I am running between 6 and 8,000 so one can not say I dog it..:roflblack::roflblack:

It's a SM6. One of the main reasons I got her the manual is so that she could have control over the gears...irony can be pretty ironic sometimes :roflblack:
 
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