F3 with Blue Ridge - Modifications to help with turbulence

[GaryTheBadger]

I have the middle size Gustafsson on my F3, because it uses the stock BRP brackets, but I wish I had gone with the tallest one. The buffeting
with the middle size is reduced, but not gone (I'm 5'10"). Hunching down about four inches and it's all gone. I also plan to borrow someone's
in-ear noise-cancelling buds and see if that fixes it, regardless of windshield type or size.

 

[F4 Customs]

F4 Windshields

 

[TomG]

Do I have the Blue Ridge windshield?

I am confused! so many folks are unhappy the the Blue Ridge shield due to turbulence around the head. I have what I thought was the Blue Ridge shield, but now I am not sure since I have absolutely no turbulence. My shield is the one with the funny little upward and forward curve at the top. It was on my 2016 F3 Lmt when I bought it. (and Yes, I do often ride at 75+ mph).
Thanks, TomG

 

[WackyDan]

I am confused! so many folks are unhappy the the Blue Ridge shield due to turbulence around the head. I have what I thought was the Blue Ridge shield, but now I am not sure since I have absolutely no turbulence. My shield is the one with the funny little upward and forward curve at the top. It was on my 2016 F3 Lmt when I bought it. (and Yes, I do often ride at 75+ mph).
Thanks, TomG

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Lots of factors at play. Shields are kinda like seats for many. Everyone's butt is different, etc. Some people have better luck than others with the same shield due to height, helmet, custom seat changing posture/position, etc... And some people don't know what it is like to have a properly functioning shield anyway and tolerate some buffeting and noise because they don't know any better. ***I used to be one of those people.

Take a picture and post it here. We'll tell you what one you have.

 

[monkeyboymorton]

I am confused! so many folks are unhappy the the Blue Ridge shield due to turbulence around the head. I have what I thought was the Blue Ridge shield, but now I am not sure since I have absolutely no turbulence. My shield is the one with the funny little upward and forward curve at the top. It was on my 2016 F3 Lmt when I bought it. (and Yes, I do often ride at 75+ mph).
Thanks, TomG

You don't have the blue ridge as you have the touring F3 model with the built in screen as standard. The F3-S comes with no screen (see my avatar) and the blue ridge is an accessory. Anecdotal evidence on here is that the standard screen on the touring provides less buffeting than the blue ridge.

As an aside I've just bought a blue ridge in the BRP sale as the price was so good I considered it worth taking a risk on. All the other options (F4 / Madstad / Gustafsson etc.) have to be imported to the UK and work out prohibitively expensive.

I'm going to be interested to see what the turbulence everyone talks about is like first hand as I've only ridden with no screen at all so far.

Push come to shove I can sell the blue ridge on ebay and probably not lose any money if it doesn't work out.

 

[Corsacreek]

Anyone in stature of above 5'4 (1.6 meters) with the BR will experience some type of buffeting. Where it affects you of course depends on your height of course. If you're around 5'7 (1.7 meters) the buffeting will be concentrated right on top of your helmet which is the worst to experience buffeting as it rattles your head. Anyone above that will get it in neck and eye level which is a bit more tolerable in my opinion.

The Blue Ridge design leaves no room for air to enter and exit without being distorted. Lots of back pressure in conjunction with a vacuum of negative pressure the creates the buffeting. Installing a vent or raising the shield to let some air bleed in will reduce back pressure decreasing the vacuum and buffeting. The screen would also have to be angle to eliminate further buffeting and that's where the Madstad Robot Brackets come in handy.

The problem with reducing buffeting down to a minimum is that it calls for air to bleed in and in cold places this is not an option. That's why people up North find this design flawed but in reality, this is one engineered solution aside from getting a really tall screen that you would see through all the time.

If you talk to Slingshot owners that haven't installed taller windshields they will tell you about horrible buffeting they experience on higher speed. Also tall guys on convertibles will described the same. You can duplicate this on a car very easily, leave one window slightly open while keeping the rest closed. Once you reach 55mph you will feel the negative vacuum that creates buffeting inside the car along with the horrible wind noise. Same principle..

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[TomG]

Thanks

You don't have the blue ridge as you have the touring F3 model with the built in screen as standard. The F3-S comes with no screen (see my avatar) and the blue ridge is an accessory. Anecdotal evidence on here is that the standard screen on the touring provides less buffeting than the blue ridge.

As an aside I've just bought a blue ridge in the BRP sale as the price was so good I considered it worth taking a risk on. All the other options (F4 / Madstad / Gustafsson etc.) have to be imported to the UK and work out prohibitively expensive.

I'm going to be interested to see what the turbulence everyone talks about is like first hand as I've only ridden with no screen at all so far.

Push come to shove I can sell the blue ridge on ebay and probably not lose any money if it doesn't work out.

TomG

 

[michakin]

michakin

I have done extensive research on turbulent problems and blue ridge windshield. In my opinion the best corrective measure is the extenders from twisted throttle. I have put a web link so you can check out for yourself alternatives in videos. I ordered an extender for myself to fix the turbulent problem. They have several videos of before and after install and how to install. I checked many other options on the web from ebay and amazon and the customer feedback on all. I hope this helps others to fix this problem.


http://www.twistedthrottle.com/

http://www.twistedthrottle.com/shop-by-bike/can-am-spyder/windshield-extensions


Good luck :clap:

 

[Rondaa]

The best and only modification that will absolutely cure the buffeting is to carefully remove the Blue ridge place it on a flat level working surface, take a 20 oz hammer and smash it to little bits and then install an F4......


mark

I totally agree

 

[Jambo Creek]

X-Creen

Hello can you tell where you bought this windshield and around how much you spend

Thanks

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We have had an X-Creen on our F-3 Ltd for a year and 9,000 miles. It works very well, greatly reducing both wind noise and buffeting. Recently I ordered a second one in clear plastic because I didn’t like the smoke color of the current one. If you’re interested, I’d sell the smoke for $120. It’s like new, no scratches, and has borh clamp-on and permanent mounts. I’ll pay shipping anywhere in the lower U.S.

 

[zuni]

Their website is www.bikescreen.com Very nice people to deal with. Leif has been making windscreens since the 60's. They do a lot of custom work and a good portion of their work is replacement screens for restorations. They have several thousand patterns from about everything you can imagine. They were doing the windscreen for a sidecar when I was there last week. Zach is the son and I have been working with him on a new setup for the F3. They want to be able to offer their windscreens for F3 that don't have the OEM hardware while maintaining more of a stock appearance. Check them out. All kinds of options. After the new one is complete Zach and I are going to play with some venting options for the existing line.

CJ JAX

Hello can you tell where you bought this windshield and around how much you spend

Thanks

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[Rondaa]

F4 windshield

I had the blue ridge windshield it was terrible wind blowing right into my eyes.I tried spacers at the bottom still no good. I GOT rid of it .Bought a f4 32 inch works great. I can rise my head up 3 inch still no wind in the eyes the top is a little in my line of vision so I may cut I and a half inches of the top then it will be perfect for me my passenger says it is much better than the blue ridge also. I am 5ft9 tall

 

[UtahPete]

Go check out the Laminar Lip they are good and work well on any windshield I think it's www.laminarlip.com

Interesting product. Thanks for the tip.

 

[Flanker]

Well.......................if I was thinking about buying a Blue Ridge windshield............................I'm not now!

 

[Bucketman]

Their website is www.bikescreen.com Very nice people to deal with. Leif has been making windscreens since the 60's. They do a lot of custom work and a good portion of their work is replacement screens for restorations. They have several thousand patterns from about everything you can imagine. They were doing the windscreen for a sidecar when I was there last week. Zach is the son and I have been working with him on a new setup for the F3. They want to be able to offer their windscreens for F3 that don't have the OEM hardware while maintaining more of a stock appearance. Check them out. All kinds of options. After the new one is complete Zach and I are going to play with some venting options for the existing line.

CJ JAX

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Just ordered the Sport Touring for my new 2017 F3T limited. I'm excited about it as they said they would put the european lip on it. Thanks for the info. Will report back with review. I really like that I could order with tints.

 

[zuni]

Just ordered the Sport Touring for my new 2017 F3T limited. I'm excited about it as they said they would put the european lip on it. Thanks for the info. Will report back with review. I really like that I could order with tints.[/QUOTE]


My F3 is sitting in their shop right now. I am letting Zach keep it there to do all the test fitting for their new mount system. This will allow those that have not purchase a Blue Ridge to mount their screens. Can't wait to do some riding to test out the new design in both hardware and windscreen.

CJ JAX

 

[Nik]

I’m going to chop mine tomorrow!

Howdy,

I've been researching how folks have handled the turbulence from the blue ridge windshield online. From what I've seen you can get the windshield extender or drill holes. My question is about the results of drilling holes. I would rather just modify the shield and not put an extender in my sight line, but I'm not sure if that is actually fixing the issue.

The issue is defined as severe amounts of wind ramping up and landing directly where my eyes are. This causes the helmet (Shoei Neotec) to vibrate at 60+ mph, which in turn affect vision.

I have a 2015 F3-s and am 6'.

Thanks

lol I’m 6’3” and that Blue Ridge just pushes everything right up to my face/helmet. I don’t want a tall windshield because I actually do want plenty of air. My solution is to go to a glass company and have them cut my windshield just above the brackets so the lip will be gone. I will have more arm protection and the bulk won’t be directed right at my face for all that crappy buffeting!!! I do like to feel the air, just going to redirect the bulk elsewhere. That’s my theory anyway, wish me luck! For $50 this company has cut a lot of motorcycle windshields.