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F3 Vibration

No, its not. The vibration happens right in the engine's sweet spot on the torque curve. Not bogging, not lugging, driving correctly goes right through the belt harmonic range. And it is very annoying. yes you can drive around it but you should not have to. Not in the range it occurs. Its a defect in the design, not improper riding. This is starting to sound like the heat defects in the 2013 RTs. Yea, that was all in my head and over filling of the tank too......

I too hope SmoothSpyder comes out with a well designed tensioner that solves this.


Yes, I do have to agree, you should not have to drive around the vibration. I don't think a belt tensioner is going to solve the vibration issue but I hope I am wrong.
 
I totally agree not having to ride around the vibration. I have had several bikes over years, many of them belt driven w/o vibration problems. I am really disappointed with mine, it's so annoying to ride. .
 
Luggimg

everyone is talking about the speed at which vibration occurs; need to be looking at rpm and then shift down to the no vibration rpm.
just shift out of the vibration zone......stop lugging the engine / drive line.


It doesnt vibrate when the engine is lugging

ron
 
Belt tensioner

Yes, I do have to agree, you should not have to drive around the vibration. I don't think a belt tensioner is going to solve the vibration issue but I hope I am wrong.
Has solved the issue in two or three cases so farm, more in 30 days
 
The dealer talking points are:

I sent an email to Steve M at BRP care asking if BRP has a plan to mitigate the vibration on our F3s,it will be interesting to see what, if anything, can or will be done to make this annoying vibration go away.
dealer said it "was normal " that's the same answer I got when I complained about the heat issue I had on my 2013 STS,and we all know how that worked out.

we shal see :banghead:

What vibration?, there's no vibration. You must not know how to shift, you are bogging the engine, have you ever ridden a motorcycle before? Just run her up to about 75 in 5th, rack it into 6th gear (in that special overdrive) and motor through it!, you'll get used to it! Bullbutter!

Ron
 
I may wait till BRP sort out vibration issue before purchasing F3. I plan to buy at xmas and just hope BRP sort vibration issue out by then. My heart goes out to those owners who are experiencing the vibration problems and I will be keeping an eye on this post in the hope that BRP sort issue out and then I will buy F3.
 
Let me weigh in with some additional info. Maybe that helps figure out the problem :
I have the European set up (larger rear sprocket!)
I experience zero vibration between 60-70 mph. (doesn't matter which gear: 4.,5. or 6.)
But: Vibration starts at 85 mph!(6.gear)
I would suggest that the different belt dynamics (due to the larger sprocket) are responsible for that result.
That means the problem is the belt, not the engine.

And as I practically never drive that fast on the F3... I'm not really worried 😓
 
I may wait till BRP sort out vibration issue before purchasing F3. I plan to buy at xmas and just hope BRP sort vibration issue out by then. My heart goes out to those owners who are experiencing the vibration problems and I will be keeping an eye on this post in the hope that BRP sort issue out and then I will buy F3.
I don't think I would not buy because of it. It's not that bad. You are going to find issues with about anything.
 
I don't think I would not buy because of it. It's not that bad. You are going to find issues with about anything.

Oh I will be buying it, but I am going to play the waiting game. I suppose when a brand new product is released theres sometimes problems with the first batch, so my brain is saying to wait. In the meantime like others I will keep an eye on this post and watch this space ;)
 
We at Baker Built have a belt stabilizer that will not add any more tension on the belt but will take the vibration out. Please check us out on our web site where you may view pictures of the belt stabilizer.
Thanks, Mike
Hi Mike!!
I tried clicking on the link but could not get the page to load ? Very interest in getting the vibration out ! ! !
 
The vibration is a non issue for me but then again I'm a motorcycle guy and I don't expect car like smoothness.

As far as a fix I can tell you that Baker has a belt tensioner that helps. I put over 4000 miles on with it and I would say it took out about 70% of what I was feeling before. Might want to contact Bruce at Baker.
 
What vibration?, there's no vibration. You must not know how to shift, you are bogging the engine, have you ever ridden a motorcycle before? Just run her up to about 75 in 5th, rack it into 6th gear (in that special overdrive) and motor through it!, you'll get used to it! Bullbutter!

Ron



Each bike shifts differently, each car shifts differently. I never said those that had the problem had never ridden a motorcycle before. I offered a solution, that has work for me and others. I hope the belt tensioner solves the issue to not have to play with the gearing and shifting. If it does not then I guess your going to have to sell it but then what would you have to bi**ch about?
 
Hi Mike!!
I tried clicking on the link but could not get the page to load ? Very interest in getting the vibration out ! ! !

Give me a call if you continue to have problems with our web page. 1-800-451-9464 If your signed in on Spyder Lovers you should to click on baker built air wings and it will take you to our web page. If you want to go directly our web page is www.bakerbuilt.com.
Thanks, Mike
p.s. You can call the 800 number and talk with Bruce if you have particular question on how it works.
 
Different machine same issue

just passed 600 mile on F3 in tandem with my wife on her RT/S. The F3 performs well when ordered to shove through the twists of Franklin NC mountain roads but when on the main highways where speeds reach 75 the F3 acts like it wants to come apart. Now on to BPR machines I knew what I was getting into as wife's bike has 17,000 miles shakes with the same vibration in addition to the stink of boiling fuel. Both were noted at the dealership in 2011. I had bought spyder Jim tensioner but found it didn't contain the belt issue and I could hear the bearing screaming so Jim took it back, just learned to fight through it. I'm awaiting like others to see what BPR plains to finally do with the company issues.
 
Give me a call if you continue to have problems with our web page. 1-800-451-9464 If your signed in on Spyder Lovers you should to click on baker built air wings and it will take you to our web page. If you want to go directly our web page is www.bakerbuilt.com.
Thanks, Mike
p.s. You can call the 800 number and talk with Bruce if you have particular question on how it works.

How is the installation of the belt rollers done? Is there drilling into the frame? Does it place extra tension on the belt?

mark
 
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