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F3 sprocket question - which lube/paste is best when re-fitting?

Has anyone ever used a long enough straight edge to reach from the front sprocket to the rear sprocket to check the physical alignment of the two?

I absolutely agree with the sentiment voiced above. I've ridden tons of miles on bikes and never had to replace a countershaft sprocket due to excessive wear on
the splines. To me that screams that there's a problem that isn't being addressed. I wonder if the semi-automatic Spyders have a higher or lower replacement rate
than the manual ones. Or the twins more than the triples.
 
SpyderF3-s said:
I have 77,000+ miles on my 2015 F3-S. I'm currently on my 5th sprocket. The original sprocket lasted 16,500 miles. I had a dealership replace it and it only lasted 6000 miles. Several emails and calls to BRP on the issue after that one. Since the the second sprocket had been replaced, I check the sprocket bolt every weekend to verify it is tight. I have been using a moly paste on the drive shaft and Locktite 660 on the bolt. As long as the bolt stays tight, I can get about 15,000-17,000 out of a sprocket before it has to be replaced. I always have a spare sprocket on hand ($135). Don't like the issue but having to live with it.
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:lecturef_smilie: something is very , very wrong here .... are you sure the dealer ACTUALLY put on New sprockets ??? .... waaaaaaaaaaaay back when BRP had a re-call on DPS units, mine was working fine at the time .... I didn't trust my dealer ..... so I marked up the DPS and brought it in without some tupperware so I could see the DPS ..... The Dealer or Tech had a conniption .... and then added two quarts of oil :gaah:, which meant it was now TWO qts. too much. .... Never went back to that dealer. Well actually I did, but I can't tell you why, even if the Statute of limitations has been exceeded ... :roflblack::roflblack::roflblack: ....................Mike :thumbup:
 
Not that it's what I should have to do but I carry one with me when I travel. I don't want to be stuck out yonder at the mercy of the all too many incompetent dealerships.
 
SPYD3R said:
NO NO NO.....
DO NOT GIVE BRP a reason to VOID your WARRANTEE.....
i just spoke with my dealer, and he advise me to go with the recommended 'paste' that BRP is saying will cure the problem; KLUBERPASTE 46 MR401, is what is recommended... my dealer informed me that they had to cut a spline in half because the wrong material was applied... he also stated that the K-paste may need to be applied occasionally... i would think @ each rear tire change...
just my opinion.... but well all know how that goes...
Dan P
SPYD3R
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The moly paste that DerSpyGuy linked to is functionally equivalent to the Kluberpaste 46 and some consider it a better formulation.
 
had mine replaced today @ 4482 miles...
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this is what it looked like...
DEL-KAWA of HENDERSONVILLE, NC did the replacement, and the entire team there were absolutely fantastic... THANK YOU...
Dan P
SPYD3R
 
while traveling last month in north carolina one of the guys sprocket with south luckily we had just pulled into Iron Horse motorcycles to check out the new 2020 spyders they took very good care of him right then since we were traveling great dealership very nice people very professional they are in monroe nc
 
How well dose a new sprocket fit on the shaft that has been cleaned and slipped on dry? Is there a lot of side to side slope in the fit up, can you twist it left and right or is it a tight fit?:dontknow: If there is a lot of slope , for god sake it needs to be machined to a tighter tolerance in my book. Why can't BRP see that, and why is it mostly only the F3's? Don't make sense dose it?:dontknow: This is getting like years ago if you had a chev 350 you had a new cap and rotor in your glove box, because some time some place you would be going down the road and the motor would stop running, take the cap off and it would have a carbon track to ground!! We have to ride around with a new sprocket in the trunk to get home!!!! WOW
 
The sprocket that Dan had replaced at 4482 miles was the factory original on his 2019 F3-S. I had to have my third replacement sprocket at less than 5000 miles. My original sprocket lasted 17,000 miles. I do not understand why BRP cannot come up with a PERMANENT fix for this. And this problem is unheard of on the RT’s, the ST’s and the RS’s.
 
download.jpg When I first read about this red dust on the front pulley I pulled the pulley cover on my 2018 F3s and discovered a light coating of red dust with just short of 4000 miles on bike. It was still under warranty but did not trust the dealer that it was bought from, so I pulled the pulley and cleaned it up and applied honda moly 60 paste that I use to use on my Kawasaki Concours drive shaft to the splines. Closing in on 9000 miles now and will check it again when I change oil and put it away for the winter. mully
 
JKMSPYDER said:
The sprocket that Dan had replaced at 4482 miles was the factory original on his 2019 F3-S. I had to have my third replacement sprocket at less than 5000 miles. My original sprocket lasted 17,000 miles. I do not understand why BRP cannot come up with a PERMANENT fix for this. And this problem is unheard of on the RT’s, the ST’s and the RS’s.
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Did the dealer just install a new sprocket or did they use any type of paste or lube to protect the splines?
 
JKMSPYDER said:
The sprocket that Dan had replaced at 4482 miles was the factory original on his 2019 F3-S. I had to have my third replacement sprocket at less than 5000 miles. My original sprocket lasted 17,000 miles. I do not understand why BRP cannot come up with a PERMANENT fix for this. And this problem is unheard of on the RT’s, the ST’s and the RS’s.
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We have seen RT with the same failure. Not as many but we do see them.
 
Bottomline2000 said:
Did the dealer just install a new sprocket or did they use any type of paste or lube to protect the splines?
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the dealer installed a new sprocket, and applied the KLUGERPASTE as recommended by BRP.... my faith is BRP's directive is about ZERO, so i'll be watching the progress of the sprocket every so often, and should it need replacement AGAIN, i'll be contacting my Attorney General here in South Carolina and file a LEMON LAW case... this is just INSANE that they, BRP, haven't addressed this issue years ago.... my only wish, is that HONDA would come out with a direct competitor to these SPYD3RS.... don't get me wrong, i LOVE my SPYD3R, but i have NO TRUST in BRP's engineering or management anymore...
Dan P
SPYD3R
 
If ANY of the big Japanese 4 came out with a version, I'd likely look VERY hard at it. I'm a huge Kawasaki fan :)
 
Look at how long and what had to happen to get the fire bomb 2013 RTs fixed. BRP is dragging their backside on this problem.
 
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