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F3 Limited vs. F3-T - is the Limited worth the premium?
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SpyderAnn01
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You're probably right. The T doesn't have floorboards either so don't forget to add that in - if you want floorboards.
blacklightning
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Since you mentioned the top case on the limited, i assume you are referring to a 2017. Since that would be the case, i would definitely get the f3t so that i would get the larger rear sprocket for the peppier ride.
Interesting...I didn't see that referenced anywhere in the literature. So the F3-T is a bit quicker? I wonder why they didn't make the bikes the same.
jcthorne
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The limited really only makes sense if you want all the chrome AND the topcase, heated grips, floorboards. If you are fine with or prefer the black trim, adding top case, floorboards and grips to an F3T is cheaper and faster unless you can cut a better deal on a leftover limited. (not yet as they just came out).
The LTD also has nicer (to me) chrome front wheels and an electronic rear suspension ("T" suspension is manual).
The ride quality on my LTD is noticeably better than on my F3-S. Also, I can ride the LTD in the curves at higher speeds than the S. I've got a torsion bar to put on the S. Hopefully that will improve its handling.
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The ride quality on my LTD is noticeably better than on my F3-S. Also, I can ride the LTD in the curves at higher speeds than the S. I've got a torsion bar to put on the S. Hopefully that will improve its handling.
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hillbillywhisperer
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blacklightning
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If I wanted the chrome and other bells and whistles, I would pick up a left over 2016 limited, and then add the top box. I just love the extra kick that the larger sprocket gives.
Get the F3L
With the 2017 F3L you already have everything as standard and I am starting to see them discounted up to $5000 off.
With the 2017 F3L you already have everything as standard and I am starting to see them discounted up to $5000 off.
Dennis in Lodi
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2016 vs. 2017 F3 limited
The 2016 F3L has the same rear sprocket at 89 tooth as the F3 series The difference is night and day as the bike really hauls with the quicker gearing. Same get up and go as any F3 minus the traction control of the 2017 F3s which allows more rear wheel spin. You also get the same reduced nanny restrictions as the F3. Heated grips and floor boards for a better touring platform.
The 2017 besides putting the top box back rest, inherited all the restrictions of the RT platform for 2017. Taller 79 tooth RT gearing that really bogs the motor down vs. the 89 tooth F3 gearing. AND, you get the ridiculous RT nanny restrictions and speed limiter. Have a little fun in a corner and the nanny kicks in, where the 2016 allows my one front tire to be off the ground and a lot more off the line wheel spin. In fact, you would be hard pressed to get any wheel spin with the 79 tooth stock bike. The RT platform has speed restrictions that start to close the throttle butterflies at 92 mph and limits top speed to about 105 mph. My 2016 F3L has the F3 speed restrictions and my bike goes 114 mph pretty quickly.
But, there is a simple solution for any 79 tooth set up and that's to get it flashed. https://monsterfuelinjection.com/spyder/ Check out the video of a flashed RT and pay attention to the end of the video for how well it does in roll on testing.
So, I got a better deal on a left over 2016 F3L at $22,000 out the door plus tax. I'm not sure if the 2017 F3T got thrown into the RT category with the 79 tooth sprocket?? For me, the gearing was a huge game changer and thanks to comments from forum users I have the perfect blend of sport and touring.
The 2016 F3L has the same rear sprocket at 89 tooth as the F3 series The difference is night and day as the bike really hauls with the quicker gearing. Same get up and go as any F3 minus the traction control of the 2017 F3s which allows more rear wheel spin. You also get the same reduced nanny restrictions as the F3. Heated grips and floor boards for a better touring platform.
The 2017 besides putting the top box back rest, inherited all the restrictions of the RT platform for 2017. Taller 79 tooth RT gearing that really bogs the motor down vs. the 89 tooth F3 gearing. AND, you get the ridiculous RT nanny restrictions and speed limiter. Have a little fun in a corner and the nanny kicks in, where the 2016 allows my one front tire to be off the ground and a lot more off the line wheel spin. In fact, you would be hard pressed to get any wheel spin with the 79 tooth stock bike. The RT platform has speed restrictions that start to close the throttle butterflies at 92 mph and limits top speed to about 105 mph. My 2016 F3L has the F3 speed restrictions and my bike goes 114 mph pretty quickly.
But, there is a simple solution for any 79 tooth set up and that's to get it flashed. https://monsterfuelinjection.com/spyder/ Check out the video of a flashed RT and pay attention to the end of the video for how well it does in roll on testing.
So, I got a better deal on a left over 2016 F3L at $22,000 out the door plus tax. I'm not sure if the 2017 F3T got thrown into the RT category with the 79 tooth sprocket?? For me, the gearing was a huge game changer and thanks to comments from forum users I have the perfect blend of sport and touring.
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Totally agree with this! I was even toying with the idea of buying the ten year anniversary edition F3L, but once I rode one, I was very disappointed with the performance, compared to my 16 F3 L. The reason that I bought the L instead of the T is 16, was that I preferred the color scheme more with all one color, oh and the floorboards!
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You are loving that 16 F3 L aren't you Dennis?
Tazzel
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I am still very confused about the sprocket sizes on the 2016, 2017 F3 Models. I had a 2015 F3S and traded in for the 2017 F3T. The 2017 F3T although much more refined does seem to be slower or struggle more at top speeds. I at first thought this was the difference in sprocket size but others say they have the same sprocket. Confused.:shocked::shocked:
Slowpoke387
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Read the entire post that is three posts above yours. Dennis says the 17 has a different rear sprocket than the 16.
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You do have the same sprocket that you had on the F3s, but you do have a bit more weight to carry around.
Tazzel
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I did several times was still confused so his is my interpretation:
F3 Base = all years 79 tooth sprocket
2015 F3S = 89 Tooth sprocket
2016 F3T & L = 89 Tooth sprocket
2017 F3T & L = 89 Tooth sprocket
Is this correct????
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Almost
I believe that the F3 base has the larger sprocket. Not too sure as I have never rydin one.
I believe that the F3 base has the larger sprocket. Not too sure as I have never rydin one.
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Tazzel
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So which Spyder has the 79 tooth sprocket and what size sprocket does the F3 base have?
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