f-3 brakes

[Semper Fi]

I had posted this earlier under General Discussion but, I only had one person answer me. Then I thought it would have been better here, can anyone help?

The brakes on our F-3 S are squealing like mad. When I hit the brakes hard, it takes a dive to the right. I only have about 7200 miles on this this bike, do I need new brakes and a caliper? The Kenda tires don't even need replaced yet. What is going on? Where do I get the new brakes for the Spyder?

 

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[Darren111]

I had posted this earlier under General Discussion but, I only had one person answer me. Then I thought it would have been better here, can anyone help?

The brakes on our F-3 S are squealing like mad. When I hit the brakes hard, it takes a dive to the right. I only have about 7200 miles on this this bike, do I need new brakes and a caliper? The Kenda tires don't even need replaced yet. What is going on? Where do I get the new brakes for the Spyder?

Semper Fi the same is happening with my F3-S. Take it to your local dealer and get them to have a look at your pads and discs. I did this and my dealer had to replace all break pads, rear pads were down to the metal, this explained why spyder was diving to the right when braking hard. I have to go back at some point because they said rear disc would need to be replaced due to it being scored. Since having new break pads the squealing is so bad. The mileage on my F3-S is 9500 and all three tyres are orginals from brand new. This is not the first time my F3-S sqeals this happened on old brake pads.

 

[Semper Fi]

Semper Fi the same is happening with my F3-S. Take it to your local dealer and get them to have a look at your pads and discs. I did this and my dealer had to replace all break pads, rear pads were down to the metal, this explained why spyder was diving to the right when braking hard. I have to go back at some point because they said rear disc would need to be replaced due to it being scored. Since having new break pads the squealing is so bad. The mileage on my F3-S is 9500 and all three tyres are orginals from brand new. This is not the first time my F3-S sqeals this happened on old brake pads.

Thanks. I will call the dealer and make an appointment. I am guessing that this was not covered by an warranty was it?

 

[Tazzel]

my F3-s brakes squeal slightly when applying brakes, always have. Dealer said was acceptable. But your problem sounds much worse.

 

[Darren111]

Thanks. I will call the dealer and make an appointment. I am guessing that this was not covered by an warranty was it?

Brake pads and discs are not covered by warranty (Knew this) because they are wear and tear items (knew this).:thumbup:

 

[Semper Fi]

Brake pads and discs are not covered by warranty (Knew this) because they are wear and tear items (knew this).:thumbup:

So replacing the pads and disc, it stopped the squealing and "diving to the right" on your Spyder? I would have thought it was caused by a caliper in the front of the Spyder.

 

[Semper Fi]

One person has said that, it has cost him $150 for the rear disc. That sounds like a lot of money for one disc!!

 

[monkeyboymorton]

One person has said that, it has cost him $150 for the rear disc. That sounds like a lot of money for one disc!!

That's about right for OEM, EBC do sell a rear replacement that's a bit cheaper here in the UK ~ £100. £80 for each of the fronts.

 

[Darren111]

So replacing the pads and disc, it stopped the squealing and "diving to the right" on your Spyder? I would have thought it was caused by a caliper in the front of the Spyder.

Rear disc has not been replaced yet, because at the time of visit (Saturday), dealer did not have one in stock. New rear brake pad has stopped Spyder diving to the right, but has not stopped brake squeal.

 

[Darren111]

One person has said that, it has cost him $150 for the rear disc. That sounds like a lot of money for one disc!!

A Can Am dealer in UK quoted £300.00 to replace rear disc.

 

[Darren111]

That's about right for OEM, EBC do sell a rear replacement that's a bit cheaper here in the UK ~ £100. £80 for each of the fronts.

Thanks for this info monkeyboymorton. Do I need to buy rear disc from EBC and get a Can Am dealer to fit it?
Or do I ask Can Am dealer to supply and fit rear disc from EBC?

 

[Bob Denman]

You can use a file to bevel the leading edge of the brake pads. (We used to do this on our dirtbikes).
That should kill the squealing!

 

[BajaRon]

Brake pads and discs are not covered by warranty (Knew this) because they are wear and tear items (knew this).:thumbup:

Generally this is true. However, if you have abnormal wear or damage to pads/rotors caused by defective calipers, malfunctioning VSS, etc., then these 'Wear' items should also be covered under warranty as collateral damage from covered parts.

I carry EBC pads and rotors. Both are superior to OEM products.

The full pad set is $103.85 delivered. (International destinations higher)
Front Rotors are $104.00 each.
Rear Rotor is $139.00.

This is for the 2013+ models only. International destinations are higher due to shipping. Surprisingly, I ship a fair number of these Internationally. The pads stop better, resist fade better and last longer. The rotors also increase stopping performance and resist warpage better than OEM.

 

[Darren111]

You can use a file to bevel the leading edge of the brake pads. (We used to do this on our dirtbikes).
That should kill the squealing!

Thanks for sharing this info Bob.:thumbup:

 

[monkeyboymorton]

Thanks for this info monkeyboymorton. Do I need to buy rear disc from EBC and get a Can Am dealer to fit it?
Or do I ask Can Am dealer to supply and fit rear disc from EBC?

Not sure of a dealer would fit non oem or not, but you can only ask? As I presume you're now out of warranty see if you can find a local bike specialist who could change it. Mine won't go to a dealer now unless it's something I or anyone else can't fix. Most jobs like brakes etc can be done anywhere and the rear disc can be done without removing rear wheel.

Ebay.co.uk has suppliers of the EBC pads and discs:

Semi sintered Pads £27 - search for FA631V
Fully sintered £43 - search for FA631HH
Disc £95.88 - search for F3 Rear Disc EBC

All free shipping.

So you're looking at £123 for the parts and then it's just labour. So if you can find a local bike shop who will charge less than £180 to do it (can't see it being more than £100) your quids in :thumbup:

 

[monkeyboymorton]

Rear disc has not been replaced yet, because at the time of visit (Saturday), dealer did not have one in stock. New rear brake pad has stopped Spyder diving to the right, but has not stopped brake squeal.

You certainly seem to have been unlucky with the brakes. Mine has over 11K miles on now and it's never squealed. Front pads will need doing soon but discs look fine all round.

 

[Semper Fi]

I am taking my F-3 S Spyder to the dealer on Tuesday. After talking with him for awhile, he said there must be something wrong with the bike, a malfunction, that is causing the brakes to act the way they are. I will let you guys know as soon as I know.

 

[Roadster Renovations]

We run the EBC brake pads. Work very well.

 

[monkeyboymorton]

While we're on the subject of brakes - has anyone tried the Vesrah fully sintered pads?

Read good things about their pads on-line and wondered if anyone had tried them on a Spyder?